hmm.....what i learn now in ZvT against mech is always do sling run by, roach/bling drops and muta harrass cuz he cant be everywhere playing mech. you will probably set up to 5 base, he will be bz defending his 3 base and push out.....just delay his push as long as possible and overwhelm him wif a big surround.

in late game vs a death ball of terran mech, BL and infestor is your answer.

protoss collo and terran tank eats these things alive...


roaches wif speed are damn fast la...........

roach as main army in zvt is pretty stupid........i've only seen unconventional roach infestor timing attack work a few times against mechh....f the tank critical mass is out, it will be damn hard.....

just keep on do sling run by and drops....

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Added on August 27, 2011, 8:56 pmand late game BL infestor > all terran army

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Aug 27 2011, 08:56 PM

lol, i think in lower league, ZvZ the best is still stick with pool first...then dun stop gas..then you wont die to rush that easily..

in higher league when you have the micro to fend off rushes already, hatch 1st macro games are actually more common.

its not rumor, its in the beta patch already. if theres no huge problem, it will be up in next official patch WHICH I HOPE WONT HAPPEN.

that 1 is kill 5 units right? go NP a baneling if opponent is ling/bling-ing you or a tank will do the job. HT too if u r pro lol or ask ur opponent to help you do that (rofl)

BC kill scv so slow....tank got splash, HT got splash.

u didnt even say whats ur opponent's race, for each race, u got differnet timings to learn.

vP, expand at 15, take pool, take gas. make only drones. if you think its a 4 gate coming like you said earlier, 1st 100 gas go to metabolic boost, stop droning at 34+- food with 2 queens. then make only zergling. (you need to make about 2-4 lings to scout when ur pool is done la) place ur lings at watch tower. if you saw them coming and can surround and eat it, do so. if cant, right clilck into his base, do run by. kill his base while use spine and new lings to defend. he need to pull back or make zealot in his base, making his attack much weaker.

if its not a 4 gate coming, another all in you need to sked is DT or stargate. so either way, make evo chamber if you sense somehtings wrong. etc, low sentry count, stick in 1 base for too long, about 7-9 minute, took 2 gas. then make spores.

theres only 3 early all ins you need to be afraid of, others are like 2 base 6 gate or forge FE adi.

vs T, if they 1 base sieged tech, thats 1 of the more famous strat in our sea, especially gold-diam. you need either baneling or roach or both. alot of them. because it hits b4 muta timing, about 9 minute mark, about 30 sec before a normal 2 base muta. if you think its a sieged tech coming, u can safely drone till about 16 drone per base with 2 gas running. make bling if you no see blue flame hellion coming. then try to eat his 1st push alive when he is unsieged. the key point is watch tower, take them, saw them coming, try to flank him to catch his siege tank off guard. if you cant, use ur sling outside to cut reinforcement, in your base, gather ur army, lets say roach or bling, wait till he shell your hatch till you think you got enuf to eat him, go. wif all ur drones. the keypoint here is a group of sling cutting reinforcement.

v Z, wif high level micro, 15 hatch is actually the best build.

i long time no play liao, all these are outdated stuff adi lolol, dno whats the latest trend....

i iz newb, no play sc2, noe how to talk cork only.

expand to 4 base, mass upgrade. wait him come out, kill him with broodlord infestor roach queen.

mass corrupter la. if they go air unit, dun go muta.

3 ppl cant defend a 4 terran marine scv all in. i mean each player pull like 10 scv, thats 40 scv and 40 marines. how can 3 ppl defend that until coll is out.

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Added on October 4, 2011, 5:35 pmand i dun even need to scan what my opponent has, because no matter what unit they have, im still going to use scv marine. no change.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Oct 4 2011, 05:35 PM

lol, want to play 1 match?

we can post the replays here.

4v4 or 3v3 also can. 1v1 a, whenever you want

- others, i dun play starcraft adi lol unless friends come over to my house or i go over but i still watch gsl and lurk teamliquid like normal.

the gas and mineral you invested..........just like bunker moving..

lurker pls lurker plssssss

and i hope they put back vulture and firebat into multiplayer. they are just as cool in campaign...

wraith too? in place of banshee.

put evo chamber so early? opponent will know 100% +1 lings incoming, they will just pop down a baneling nest ._.

and maybe you should hide a 2nd hatch for more larvaes

for starters i would recommend play standard. 15 hatch in all match up. most of the time you wont get to 15 hatch against a protoss so just 14 pool into 15 hatch.

15 hatch in zvz requires most micro in early game..if not, 14 gas pool is the standard.

if ur opponent has this number of collosus, ultralisk will do shit against it lol...they will just melt b4 even touching the collosus.

the more significant problem in this game is probably.......your opponent has more bases than you. i saw you have mutalisks, it should have gave you map control and let you see what army your opponent has, then you will realize they have so many coll, faster get corrupters.