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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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post Aug 25 2010, 04:48 PM

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The debate is still on-going!

ZvP and ZvT

Who have the best advantage in early game?
Let's here it guys..
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post Aug 25 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(raylee914 @ Aug 25 2010, 04:54 PM)
10 reapers own 20 zergling with no problem....
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10 reapers = 500 mins + 500 oil
20 zerglings = 500 mins.

That's a bad comparison.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 25 2010, 05:07 PM)
my point is reapers are conditional and need good skill player. if it is that good, all Terran players sure produce reapers most the game already.

as a Zerg player, I'm not scare of other races during early game, except another Zerg player.

Want to swarm me with tier 1 units? Let's see my zerglings better or your marines/zealots better.

Want to go for reapers? then your base is quite open and I might tech to hydra waiting for you, or I even do a 10 pool rush. My opponent need to gather quite some gas b4 reapers can come out ... unless he's a very good defense player, else my speedlings already swarm to his base and surround his barrack.
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and also bust the walls with banelings.. rclxms.gif
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yesss! i managed to flame everyone into making this issue hot!!
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post Aug 25 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 25 2010, 06:32 PM)
not really.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 25 2010, 06:32 PM)
there's a fine line between discussion and a flamewar...
no name calling to date lol...
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just kiddin..

i hv to study again on the issue..

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:33 PM

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Hi experts,

For ZvP,

Should we put our Overlords scattered around the map or we put them most on our base?

Because those early phoenix rush is annoying..
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post Sep 8 2010, 01:51 AM

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do zerg players like zerg because the units are cool?
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post Sep 8 2010, 02:12 AM

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Maybe becoz it can give psychological affect to the opponent..
Zerg looks creepy so, opponent will get scared..
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post Sep 11 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Sep 10 2010, 10:46 PM)
Having some trouble after my zergling rush doesnt work, go roaches doesnt work.... problem in mid-game which i have no idea what strat or units to build!!!
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baneling bust is the most effective cheese for a beginner zerg player.
Trust me, it really works especially vs Terran..
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QUOTE(mad_geist @ Sep 20 2010, 06:44 PM)
hrmm I dont know.. I'm still trying to push the boundaries of how fast I can nydus in.. I have to check back my replay but.. maybe in 10min game time? I tried to go pool->Roaches->Lair->Nydus as fast as I can.. as time progress, opponent have more view of their main base and nydus are harder to pop without them knowing it..

Last nite I did finish a game in around 11min (gametime) after my nydus pop behind this Terran's base, mowed his small defending forces (siege tank out of position is easy to kill wink.gif)and he quit when my Roaches got to his mineral patch.. he may have tried to tech, hence the small unit count..

my other attempt at doing this strategy against another zerg backfired.. because he went Muta and my Roach army got creamed.. althou after watching the replay, I might had a better chance if I just send my Roach over rather then trying to Nydus it in.. since Zerg cant really do a wall off anyway right tongue.gif

Another way that i've been thinking is.. using Muta tu give sight and hold the "beach head" as I would like to think it.. so maybe the Muta can defend the Nydus while its poping.. and my roaches will try to finish the base.. but.. that will need longer time to setup thou
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nydus is super-useful..
a super suprise attack
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post Sep 21 2010, 12:54 PM

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Hi experts,

Any good tips on early scouting againts T and P?

As usual, we can spy them at 10 supply using drones, but that's too early to know vital information..
and after that, they already walled the base.

2nd phase I will sacrifice my Overlord. But usually it will die half way from marines or stalkers before i get the speed upgrade..

If wait until overseer completed, and use changeling, i think it's quite late. Most probably they maybe have completed few of their banshees and rush to my base.

So, guys, tips on scouting pls?


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2010, 12:56 PM)
scout for gas to see if theres early reaper, or for toss, 2 gate pressure to hinder FEs

theres never "too early to know vital information". its only yourself in how you determine what information you receive
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yeah, for reaper rush and zealot rush, at 10 supply we can detect, but air rush attack for me is vital too.
Don wanna waste resource to do air defense if no air threats.
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QUOTE(HellZoker @ Sep 21 2010, 02:06 PM)
imho zerg is all bout counter attk,
u know wats ur opponent gonna do, u gain advantage...
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exactly bro..
it is sooo vital for zerg to scout everytime..
either by early drone, overlord or changeling..

but the question is, do u hv the skills to scout? wink.gif
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post Sep 21 2010, 03:20 PM

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Zerg can switch tech easily..
If u scout and ur opponent is doing mass zealots or mass helions..
u can just do 1 building of spire, and ur 2 or 3 hatcheries can mass produce mutas..

Thats y it is so damn advantage if u hv the scouting skills..
which i'm not good at it.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 03:52 PM)
try to spread ur overlord (get the speed upgrade)...
and suicide 1 zergling from time to time...
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by the time i get the overlord speed upgrade, they already rushing with banshees.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 21 2010, 04:18 PM)
i always advise to get 2 queens in ur main...
queen have high air DPS with superior range...
the 2nd queen can spread the creep well...
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yeah, but the anooying part, the banshees will harass my expansion
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 21 2010, 04:28 PM)
One thing I learned from dimaga's video, prepare to sac an OL when you upgrade to lair, I find that I always find important findings with this
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but the benefit comes when speed upgrade completed.
if no speed upgrade, OL will die half way by the marines.. and u wont be able to see their starport.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Sep 21 2010, 04:30 PM)
but the benefit comes when speed upgrade completed.
if no speed upgrade, OL will die half way by the marines.. and u wont be able to see their starport.. tongue.gif
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hahaha, i just realize that for the next patch, they'll speed-up the OL base movement!
yes.. the problem has been reduced now.. rclxm9.gif
post drone scouting is easier now.. huhuhu
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QUOTE(cusx @ Sep 23 2010, 09:34 PM)
hi all,

what is the best opening you think ? 14 Gas 14 Pool ?

or 14 Gas 15 Hatch ?

etc.
I've been facing problems recently VS'ing mass marauders.
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depends on the opponent..
if they are turtling, u may opt for 15 hatch..
it's quite safe if the opponent is terran..

But if toss or zerg, early expansion is quite risky..
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 28 2010, 01:40 AM)
Ok so i have this problem ....
1.) baneling bust fails due to good positioning of enemy units / wall
2.) Steamrolled right after that phail bust.

How to prevent (2.) from happening... lol...
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if u play with top ranked players, the baneling bust tactic is considered obsolete. Learn to play defensive and control the map but at the same time keep harrassing with lings and mutas..

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