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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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post Feb 2 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 2 2011, 08:22 AM)
nowadays ppl dont conc open anymore cuz of the potential voidray threat....at least i have not used that for some time. 12 nexi was awesome because only proxy barracks can stop last time, without marauder of course.
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still very popular in korea as the toss there like to FE...
thus the higher lvl pros here still does it...

for a toss to go 12nexus, he is sacrificing warptech and a very slow range unit -> kite fest...
i wont suggest 12 nexus but rather 1 gate core expand...
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post Feb 2 2011, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 2 2011, 02:04 PM)
aint forge expand into +1 timing push btr than gate core?

ya, 12 nexus is stupid in sc2 XD it WAS imba back then.
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marauders /lol @ canoons without support...
remmeber when u expand, u are behind 400mineral on a deadweight (u may argue having chrono etc but u are still behind in resource n tech)...
the 12-15nexus was popular back then just like the 1 gate expand but terrans are now freaking aggresive cry.gif
its not safe to do that anymore...
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post Feb 3 2011, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(drakeria @ Feb 3 2011, 04:37 PM)
yea, Terran like to fast MM agaisnt Toss.
and Hi SiFu xD hope ypu know who is me.  biggrin.gif
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swt >.<
stop calling me that lol
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post Feb 3 2011, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 3 2011, 08:39 PM)
2 marines cant deal much damage so nothing to worry about, it's the 1 marine 2 marauder that is annoying
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ya the early concussive >.<
if ny handled well its a GG...

if i see marines i jz have my stalkers to handle...
i find it important to chrono ur first stalker wit ur warpgate (i skip zeal at times)...
else if i am forced to go zealot first i'll get a sentry b4 stalker...
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post Feb 4 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 3 2011, 11:33 PM)
WOOO HOOO im back home ^^ can ladder soon lol!
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no sc2 for me till sunday at least >.<
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post Feb 6 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 6 2011, 12:51 PM)
lol!!!

my recent games during cny best comment was

"do you ever lose to zergs"

Beat him 3 times in a row and the comment was on the 2nd game.. sc2 has so lil players sad.gif
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lol nt surpised...
wut build did u used?
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post Feb 6 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Feb 6 2011, 07:45 PM)
Here's it.

"You should apologize for playing Protoss"

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Junkka: u are a zerg traitor
^ said live to artosis
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post Feb 16 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Grimm @ Feb 16 2011, 01:14 PM)
When is the appropriate observer timing?
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no timer really, depends on how much u need it for scouting...
whenever i am denied of scotuing information via probes i'll try to get it out..
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post Feb 16 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 16 2011, 04:51 PM)
after the cyber is done get the robo then chrono the obs smile.gif

when you have intel you have easier can decide easily what to go for.
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^ this
depending on how much information u scouted, there would be a varying need for a robo and thus the observer...
i usually wont rush for robo unless i am sure i need it, either scouting or a quick immortal...
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post Feb 19 2011, 11:01 PM

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time to get coaching sessions with him! =p


Added on February 19, 2011, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(axn992 @ Feb 19 2011, 03:47 PM)
i always put my zealot at the front in case lings attack. seldom use ff if 4 gates

But now, PvP my korean 4gates mostly fail thx to bad micro of the probe pylon builder lol!
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set them into different control group...
put ur stalkers on follow to the group of zealots...
ez way to micro em =p

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post Feb 20 2011, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 20 2011, 01:35 PM)
The last win was from nGenLight.. I was doing the Korean 4 gate build but he did the new way to counter it by chrono the 1st 3 stalkers out to prevent the probe for a proxy pylon, really a strong build by imyonghwa! I just found it out in tl! I really some 1 to update me on new strategies..

Aeco please help me in this area haha tongue.gif need coaching from aeco more likely tongue.gif
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artosis did a vid on the 3 stalker build on youtube...
though they actually misunderstood the yonhwa build as it was not meant to counter the 4 gate in fact...
its a highly reactive build which focus on early aggression by getting more stalkers for harassment...
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post Feb 24 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 24 2011, 09:28 AM)
i was pretty angry when i hit his collosus stalker ball with my hydra roach corrupter about 200 vs 150 3-4 times and i starved out with 5 base at xel naga cavern......
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try the 300food push with mass roach reinforcement...
though on small maps this is hard...
on big maps, the zerg has been doing pretty well using such strat due to the big distance...
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post Feb 24 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 24 2011, 06:20 PM)
Hey guys i just got my stream up to share with everyone how i Play would love comments and critics thou smile.gif

I just started so its only a game then i found out GSL is about now so Ive stopped it but you can

Ill be playing protoss as my main race maybe some random for warm ups

Ill be also playing korean pop songs because I love kr pop alot smile.gif but i usually play with sc2 songs but i think it would be boring for you guys so i thought of adding some colour to my games smile.gif

heres the link

http://www.livestream.com/sCrUBieE

I hope you guys enjoy smile.gif
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time schedule?
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post Feb 24 2011, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 24 2011, 06:31 PM)
I dont know haha pretty random but you could watch the recorded version wow jinro is really good biggrin.gif

tvt really makes me clueless


Added on February 24, 2011, 6:37 pmI guess ill set a proper training time smile.gif

but ill be going for a jog later on hehe need to keep fit!
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haha ok i'll catch the vod only as well msotly=p
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post Feb 25 2011, 12:55 PM

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that game vs the zerg was nice =p
and kpop!
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post Feb 25 2011, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 25 2011, 01:10 PM)
i can see that you really like stalker lol ^^

even when lings are swarming in early stage, you still want to warp in 1 stalker lol...instead of full zealot sentry force
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partly due to muta and having FFs...
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post Feb 26 2011, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 26 2011, 01:20 PM)
in PvZ, basically you need to destroy all the corruptors and make sure your collosus is still alive. your collosus with thermal lance upgrade can just wreak all the remaining ground army
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imho it doesnt matter if ur colossus die or not...
u jz need them to do enough damage to the ground army before they die (like 3-4 shots depending on ur critical mass) and from there u jz tech switch to stalkers (blink my fav), immortal and templars...
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post Feb 27 2011, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Feb 27 2011, 12:20 AM)
Uh whattttt imba?? To counter collo you have Vikings to counter ht you need emp so why worry yo!

So what should Protoss against balls??

Anyways it's only in ptr so let's see how things goes.. I'm a very heavy ht user.. But change is all about adapting
Don't quit!! Stay who me brother!!
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i am staying...
btw banbanzenith jz now is lol...
6 colossus, high gateway count and tonnes of phoenix (200/200) die to lyn's A-move army with 1-2 EMP with lyn losing only 40 supply (was at 170+/200) while banban lost like 160 supply...

btw to terran, learn nt to bio late game but go mech n ghost...
even if bio, use ghost to snipe warping in HT lol...

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post Feb 27 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 27 2011, 10:07 AM)
i watch back the VOD of lyn vs banban, the final engagement was 200 vs 200 with 4 ghost, EMP basically wreaked them up lol
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"but emp doesnt kill, they only remove shields unlike storm" - terran

bt seriously, mech with ghost is damn good and quite a number of sg terrans are using it...
if TvZ is using it, i dun see why it is nt used that much in TvP...
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post Feb 28 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 27 2011, 09:05 PM)
i just played a game, i go for ghost after 3 rax and expand, go for a timing push after 4 ghost off 2 techlabs with mana upgrade. crushed through 3 collosus ( about 100 food vs 100 food) and got the game with losing 5-8 marauders...

maybe now if closer spawn location, i should go for ghost before vikings....
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ya, ghost are underused...
well palce emp is gooood

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