not a good idea as his drones would be able to stop ur cannon rushes wit bigger surround since its much easier to be scouted as well...
wut more with a 13pool (14hatch) into lings, it'll jz kill ur probe...

which one?
the FE build?
been using his FE based builds a lot...
his mothership rush is a NO lol...

the FE build is usually 3 gate with zealot and stalkers (occasional sentry if needed) off 1 gas...
when u drop ur nexus is depending on wut u scouted...
i always drop after the 2nd gate...
try watching day9daily 199 where huk did it...

get range upgrade...
micro colossus to be out of range...
and observers help to handle drops (or i prefer to jz have DT to kill drops now LOL)

u should worry about zerg nw...
roach spam is hard to stop now...

tat's 4 gate all-in which is wrong (husky's version in fact)...
u would usually die before that vs terrans most of the time or any other aggressive player regardless of race...
even the 3gate fast warptech (chrono) is better than that build...

try to adjust the number of gates according to wut u scouted...
at times u might even use the double stalker opening into 4gate...
4gate is more like a transition to midgame over an opening...

nt really...
knowing day9, if u do that u would have access mineral which is a no-no for him...
gate -> core -> zealot -> stalker + warp -> 1st gate when u reach 150 excess (repeat this till the 4th gate)...

to handle 4 gate easily (if u scouted)
- zerg: spines
- terran: bunker + repair
- toss: FF

i kinda dislik 4gate that much now due to this...
there are games where u can win with it but its a coin flip hoping its nt scouted or ur opponent tech up...

i kinda prefer the FE builds nw: -
- vs terran: 1-2 gate FE
- vs zerg: forge FE (wit the option to go cannon contain etc)
- vs toss: gate forge FE

sentries to GS...
helps a lot...
immortals + any comp of gateway units...

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Added on October 21, 2010, 12:47 amPvZ its over...
toss been eliminated by zergs so much

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 21 2010, 12:47 AM

yup...
roaches are killing toss in GSL it is sad =(

well try to the 15nexus build (even tester is seen doing it now) for PvZ...
jz be prepare to def ur ass off...
known when to stop probe production and use the chrono from both nexus well between probes and ur army...

depends on wut u scouted...
u can either go 15nexus or 15forge -> 15nexus...
its a simcity and u gotta make ur chrono really well =p

@shinji
VR is horrible in 1v1 nw on its own...
sigh i missed self charging my VR on my pylon then shoot my own units to keep the charge up...
nt even bothered wit VR now unless u can get some stalkers to cover it vs marine (inca game3 is win)...

@ choyster
which matchup?
generally i prefer colossus -> HTs transition (ie colossus b4 HTs)

it is addictive lol just like beta

nothing wrong wit stalker opening as it usually fairly safe if u micro the stalkers...

when playing vs random, scout after ur first pylon and sim city ur ramp (wall off when u see 6pool)...

forget the sentry...
better to go pure stalkers or zealot stalkers...
i prefer pure stalkers as u can kite a little (much more when u are the offensive ones and force larvae into lings/ spine)

get blinks...
but really 2-3 base spamming roaches > stalkers lol...
so maybe u need to transition to VR or something by then...

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Added on October 21, 2010, 8:43 pmps: pro toss in GSL losing to roach spam and they are the 'pros'

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 21 2010, 08:43 PM

with that many stalkers the window for toss is kidna small...
GSL even had some zerg spamming 200/200 roach continuously and won "
if u stop ur stalker production, u die... if u dun? u sitll get overrun in the end...

i would love range 3.5 roaches (as the pros predicted pre-patch)...
else roach should be 100/25 compared to its current 75/25 cheapskate price

the 15nexus build as mentioned...
my fav PvZ build since i saw tester did it...

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Added on October 22, 2010, 6:46 pmthe 15nexus build by popular demand in the GSL thread

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=159671

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 22 2010, 06:46 PM

either: -
1. 3.5 range
2. 100/75 (75/25 is hax)
3. remove their 1 armor

btw something i discovered yesterday, halucinated zealot cant charge anymore...
was doing day9's 1 unit mass sentry and even wit charge tech they cant charge now =(

wanna know why are VR nerfed?
great, a non-toss main race user send u a replay and it gets nerfed...
might as well send replays on how roaches are roflstomping now and get them nerfed...
how bout the polt timing atk?

Q. Recent patch changed how Void Rays work?
A. A Korean progamer, who played a Protoss although his main race isn't Protoss, sent us a replay showing a weakness of opponents in a certain specific period of time when a Protoss is using a Void Ray. Through the replay, we gave Void Ray the change that it received.

why are zealot nerfed?
cause silver leaguers cant handle proxy zeal and now high lvl toss suffer from their early pressure

A. We take teamplay seriously as well as 1v1. Recent 1.1.2 patch changed Reapers. While Reapers had no problem in 1:1, if you look at the top of the 2:2 team ranks, almost half of them are Terran+Zerg, and they all use Reaperling. This problem is same in NA as well as in Korea. This means that you can't succeed all that well in teamplay unless you play a Terran+Zerg combination, so we try to fix it if the problem is as big as that. If not, then we try to balance around 1:1.
Also, forward proxy gate Zealot rush was popular for a bit after release. This didn't get much use among the top players, but it was near impossible to stop at silver-level play. So we pondered how to fix this balance issue without affecting top players, and in the end, we decided to increase the time required to build Zealots to get it balanced.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=162815