QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Oct 24 2010, 10:30 PM)
anyone can tell me whats the fully charged VR dmg?
6 to normal16 to armored
Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.
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 Oct 24 2010, 10:51 PM
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Oct 25 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(xShinji @ Oct 25 2010, 08:41 AM) not 8 to normal? ......level 1 = 6 level 2 = 8 no? eh my bad, 8 to normal...how bout level 3? ....VR animation is still consist of 3 level ..... 6 is phase 1... Against non-armored targets Stage 1: 6(+1) dmg / 0.6sec = 10.00 dps (+1.67 per upgrade) Stage 2: 6(+1) dmg / 0.6sec = 10.00 dps (+1.67 per upgrade) Stage 3: 8(+1) dmg / 0.6sec = 13.33 dps (+1.67 per upgrade) Against armored targets Stage 1: 10(+1) dmg / 0.6sec = 16.67 dps (+1.67 per upgrade) Stage 2: 10(+1) dmg / 0.6sec = 16.67 dps (+1.67 per upgrade) Stage 3: 16(+2) dmg / 0.6sec = 26.67 dps (+3.33 per upgrade) animation have 3 stages but its only 2 lvl of charges... stage 1 and 2 = lvl 1 stage 3 = lvl 2 been like this since the end of beta... they are just lazy to change the animation... |
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Oct 25 2010, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 25 2010, 11:52 AM) I think it's only animation difference, back to beta I heard there was 3 levels yup was 3 lvl during beta but after tonnes of QQ, it was changed to 2 lvl and range reduces (which is a bit 1 sided considering banshee's 7 range and vikings's 9 range) |
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Oct 25 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 25 2010, 02:00 PM) it's bad enough Zerg can't block ramps. mass queen are good actually... and no AA until get hydralisk / mutalisk. don't count Queen la. that one can't do much also.queen are among the best AA due to their range + tranfuse... |
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Oct 25 2010, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 25 2010, 02:44 PM) No one trying 15 nexus build? Seen some replay, really affective against roach o.o i posted it 1-2 page ago...http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=159671 i'm using it and its variant... 15forge -> 17nexus is a safer version of the build as well... sangho did this build to great success in GSL2... Added on October 25, 2010, 2:47 pmbtw: whitera stick to the 3gate FE build vs dimaga and did very well as well... the 3gate allow him to deal lots of pressure... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 25 2010, 02:47 PM |
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Oct 25 2010, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(xShinji @ Oct 25 2010, 04:58 PM) 3gate FE is the korean build with hallucinate rite? whitera did not used hallucination...he went wit robo as well for obs instead... |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 1 2010, 03:01 PM) He just defined the new meaning to 13 Gate 14 Gas. i told my fren to 9rax into supply (old patch) and he literally did that... and he is nt trolling like cella is LOL! |
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Nov 1 2010, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 1 2010, 04:20 PM) 7 bases in total. lol no he didnt...Pretty crazy if you actually manage to pull that off.  Haha. That would really be an epic game when the opponent scout his base and sees that. Did he win? i managed to stop him when i see he has 3 rax and 0 supply depot >.< |
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 1 2010, 04:24 PM) Hahahaha. lol he was new...Lucky he is not trolling like cella if not I think you would feel like face palming or vomitting blood. he's pretty good now so its a learnign experience... not many ppl get the supply numbers for BO after all... |
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 1 2010, 05:09 PM) Haha yea. well i mostly got to know about it from VoDs cause i dun really play sc1bw as well since i was a heavy console gamer =pUnless they at least played Starcraft before. But it is kinda fun teaching new players. A lot of weird things can happen. And most of the time, you end up laughing until you cannot concentrate. btw in 2v2 if u are doing the pump strat, mass blink stalkers... its really a sick build LOL |
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Nov 1 2010, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 1 2010, 06:14 PM) That's like mass dragoons back in sc1bw. working/ studying in KL atm, ps3 in penang... Though its even more sick now since you can blink haha. So now left consoles and became a PC Gamer? Ah damn. Would have loved to listen to em. so cant console game so much swap to pc while waiting lol |
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Nov 2 2010, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(choyster @ Nov 1 2010, 11:41 PM) having hard time in mirror matches against protoss what should i do if i see a 4gate? do i 4 gate as well? 3 gate robo till u have 2 immortals at least...1 immortal is pretty much useless... u can keep FF-ing his army into half at the ramp... |
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Nov 2 2010, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 2 2010, 01:01 PM) Oh hahaha. ya haha...So you're another ps3 kaki also. console fan after all though pc gaming have quite lot of good multiplayer games... |
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Nov 2 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 2 2010, 04:51 PM) huk is low tier? actually the final set of FFs won huk the game...chargelot are pretty useless when the terran can micro his marauder well (kited chargelot 3 rounds around my opponent's base till i had no hp to stim anymore lol) i still think drewbie shoulda get some medics to heal... |
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Nov 3 2010, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 3 2010, 12:37 AM) Argh! Calvin you traitor! Haha. swap to random for fun...But really... it is getting pretty depressing lately playing as toss. facerolling wit terran, 50-50 with toss and got roflstomp as zerg lol... |
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 3 2010, 12:53 AM) I am thinking of doing that. well when i lost as a terran to a toss, i did get some rough idea on the timings...At least I would have more different options to try out instead of always the same old strats. it would help ur main race matchups after all (i usually random from time to time but going hardcore this time) |
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 3 2010, 01:28 AM) Hmm yea you have a good point there. 2 bunker > 4 gateThe best way to learn the enemy is to be the enemy. Added on November 3, 2010, 11:03 amOuch... got pwned by my favourite 4 gate strat when I got terran.  |
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Nov 3 2010, 11:46 AM) Oh thanks evo. which is also why when u 4 gate as a toss and u see 2 bunkers, dun commit and fall back...Will try that out if I get TvP and they went 4 gate. expo into colossus (or at least get robo/ obs)... if 1 bunker, u can still commit and FF behind the bunker, burst it down and push right in... else u can do the warp prism drop trick... |
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QUOTE(xShinji @ Nov 3 2010, 02:15 PM) When I was plat/gold ..I used double side attack on turtle terran. drop 4 zealots and warp in 4 stalkers behind...warp prism lure all the Terran unit away from ramp, den send my unit hit the ramp ....but totally not easy =,=" once I got into diamond. Thx to terran early pressure is strong use the moving drop technique... make sure u got a forward pylon as well to reinforce at the front - ON HIS RAMP (big big advantage) even if u dun kill him, he should be behind enough at this point and would nt kill u without u having 1-2 production cycles of unit in ur base to def... |
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QUOTE(xShinji @ Nov 3 2010, 03:04 PM) ou ....Ah on the ramp : ) ...You mean, pylon range can reach on top of the ramp rite? , den can warp in unit behind the wall ? yup warp directly into his base (like wut kiwikakii love to do back then)...while outer unit hit the wall, will try about it : ) .... Scary part --> if opp go for fast banshee, say bb lol 4 gate pushes are faster than banshee usually (unless u are damn far away/ cross map)... if u went wit the warp prism (ala whitera) u can jz chrono out a obs as well... |
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