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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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LostWanderer
post Feb 1 2011, 05:10 PM

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yea, can charge on own unit...iirc, if u dun click away, it will attack it soon after...lol

oh, and i now noticed how op is 3 bunker with 12 marines and 4 marines outside is without stim...

it can take out a lot of toss units and the only way to break that is with collosi...>.<"

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post Feb 1 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 05:10 PM)
yea, can charge on own unit...iirc, if u dun click away, it will attack it soon after...lol

oh, and i now noticed how op is 3 bunker with 12 marines and 4 marines outside is without stim...

it can take out a lot of toss units and the only way to break that is with collosi...>.<"
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u rarely wanna break 3 bunkers even with sentries to prevent repairs...
2 bunker is possible, 3 would depend on how big is ur army and how godly is ur FFs...
usually when they have 3 bunkers, u should know that they'll be passive thus free to tech/ expand =p
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post Feb 1 2011, 07:13 PM

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i had no choice to bust down those bunkers since i had like 2 banshees with cloak tech in my base harassing my probes...=(

my army size i would say not bad...but it's an uphill (ramp) battle and there's only 1 way to go...up...lol

oh well, next time should be smarter when i see 3 bunkers...robo bay and retreat my army...no point sitting outside...or i could try the hallu tech and warp in via back door...XD
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post Feb 1 2011, 07:28 PM

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cloak banshee = build order win 4 gate. from the point the banshee reach your base, you already lost because you cant get up ramp and he can rofl rape you with his banshees.

whenever you saw 1 bunker infront of the ramp of terran, btr transition out of 4 gate (best is 2 gate robo), get your robo asap and chrono observer cuz most likely a cloak banshee is coming.....


Added on February 1, 2011, 7:28 pmbut 4 gate has no transition WAHAHA

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post Feb 1 2011, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 1 2011, 07:28 PM)
cloak banshee = build order win 4 gate. from the point the banshee reach your base, you already lost because you cant get up ramp and he can rofl rape you with his banshees.

whenever you saw 1 bunker infront of the ramp of terran, btr transition out of 4 gate (best is 2 gate robo), get your robo asap and chrono observer cuz most likely a cloak banshee is coming.....


Added on February 1, 2011, 7:28 pmbut 4 gate has no transition WAHAHA
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depends, 4 gate can beat a banshee build if u get the timing rite...
general rule is SCOUT...
based on wut u scouted u can adapt accordingly vs terran...

i would suggest learning from artosis...
he maybe a zerg as main, his toss is generally good and i think he cover some basic in PvT very very well (despite it being about stopping 1 base terran)...

note: u die to 1 base terran even if u are 2 base since their timing window is better than urs
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post Feb 1 2011, 07:58 PM

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i had 3 gate 1 robo, 2 immortals can't even kill all 3 bunkers, took 2 bunkers down and 1 in the red, killed a few marines and my army gone...lol
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post Feb 1 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 07:58 PM)
i had 3 gate 1 robo, 2 immortals can't even kill all 3 bunkers, took 2 bunkers down and 1 in the red, killed a few marines and my army gone...lol
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were the bunker repaired?
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post Feb 1 2011, 08:31 PM

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nope, he didn't manage to repair it on time...the high ground advantage and the small ramp did help him fortify his base, nearly impossible to break it down with a 3 gate robo rush, lol...only 16 marines...gawd...>.<"

oh, and got 2 seige tanks...but no seige tech yet iirc

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post Feb 1 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 08:31 PM)
nope, he didn't manage to repair it on time...the high ground advantage and the small ramp did help him fortify his base, nearly impossible to break it down with a 3 gate robo rush, lol...only 16 marines...gawd...>.<"

oh, and got 2 seige tanks...but no seige tech yet iirc
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wait he got marines, siege tanks and banshee wit cloak?
i think ur attack too slow already >.<
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post Feb 1 2011, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Feb 1 2011, 09:21 PM)
wait he got marines, siege tanks and banshee wit cloak?
i think ur attack too slow already >.<
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post Feb 1 2011, 09:27 PM

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maybe i was a bit too slow, lol...

when i pushed out and took a peek at his ramp, he only had 1 seige, after i push down and noticed the banshee which he did proxied it right at the bottom right of the base, i was like, i'll push up and the 2nd tank just spawned


should be ard the 11min mark i think

xelnaga and 2 immortals walking there takes a while even with cb used...although not being constantly boosted, haha
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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 09:27 PM)
maybe i was a bit too slow, lol...

when i pushed out and took a peek at his ramp, he only had 1 seige, after i push down and noticed the banshee which he did proxied it right at the bottom right of the base, i was like, i'll push up and the 2nd tank just spawned
should be ard the 11min mark i think

xelnaga and 2 immortals walking there takes a while even with cb used...although not being constantly boosted, haha
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definitely too slow for him to get all those up...
since u are going 3 gate robo why not play safe with 1 obs and expand etc?
else follow the artosis vid i posted...
its among the safest build ever!
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post Feb 1 2011, 09:42 PM

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at the 9 min mark
his army = 16 marines, 1 seige tank + 2 banshess on the way to my base

my army = 5 lots, 4 stalkers 2 sentries 1 immortal

pulled back due to 3 bunkers on ramp and my units shields depleted due to that

then when the banshees reached my base...my my army added prolly 2 stalkers, 1 lot and 1 immortal...

and that seige tech just kicked in as well...all within the 9 min 30 sec mark...dry.gif

my bad actually to not move my units as well when that seige tech kicked in and it's all lumped in the ramp...lol

artosis had units in his base, and i was pushing out with all my units...XD, nothing to guard against banshees...haha
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post Feb 1 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 09:42 PM)
at the 9 min mark
his army = 16 marines, 1 seige tank + 2 banshess on the way to my base

my army = 5 lots, 4 stalkers 2 sentries 1 immortal

pulled back due to 3 bunkers on ramp and my units shields depleted due to that

then when the banshees reached my base...my my army added prolly 2 stalkers, 1 lot and 1 immortal...

and that seige tech just kicked in as well...all within the 9 min 30 sec mark...dry.gif

my bad actually to not move my units as well when that seige tech kicked in and it's all lumped in the ramp...lol

artosis had units in his base, and i was pushing out with all my units...XD, nothing to guard against banshees...haha
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i think ur army is a little small still at that time...
i would say too much resources spent on stalkers...
vs terran u cant really be aggressive unless its pure gateway
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post Feb 1 2011, 10:12 PM

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if there's no bunkers...well at least not 3 of them, those 2 immortals could have taken it out easily...didn't expect to see 3 of them there, lol

4 gate vs terran still not that good isn't it?o_O
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post Feb 1 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 10:12 PM)
if there's no bunkers...well at least not 3 of them, those 2 immortals could have taken it out easily...didn't expect to see 3 of them there, lol

4 gate vs terran still not that good isn't it?o_O
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good for some maps but then again 4 gate would die to 2-3 bunkers as well with repairs etc...
try to play a macro game else whitera's warp prism play...
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i really doubt that i can micro so many things at one time, lol

how u guys manage so many things within a few secs always amuses me...haha

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post Feb 1 2011, 10:42 PM

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start from 12 nexus every game. =DDDD most imba PvT strat ever.
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post Feb 1 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Feb 1 2011, 10:39 PM)
i really doubt that i can micro so many things at one time, lol

how u guys manage so many things within a few secs always amuses me...haha
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i got really low apm as well (average 70 or so only lol)...
try using the shift etc...


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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Feb 1 2011, 10:42 PM)
start from 12 nexus every game. =DDDD most imba PvT strat ever.
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O.o
and die to the marauder concussive opening >.<

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post Feb 2 2011, 08:22 AM

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nowadays ppl dont conc open anymore cuz of the potential voidray threat....at least i have not used that for some time. 12 nexi was awesome because only proxy barracks can stop last time, without marauder of course.

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