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Streamyx TMnet throttle MKV, AVI and PPS mayb Youtube !, Solution Removed Thank to 007 SPY

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post Aug 3 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(wkn @ Aug 3 2010, 03:39 PM)
what are you talking about? the guys from BolehVPN are on this thread themselves!

the people who should worry are the ones hacking into tmnut's network with packet injection. i hear law suits coming.........
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ARE YOU SURE WE ARE HACKING INTO TMNUT NETWORK WITH PACKET INJECTION? PLEASE DO MORE RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. OR ELSE YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. DON'T JUST SIMPLY MAKE ASSUMPTION.




QUOTE(cshong @ Aug 3 2010, 03:45 PM)
What I mean is, even if anyone know <insert name>VPN really work, they should keep the knowledge to themselves. TM spies are here.
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eventhough <insert name> vpn works, i bet they wont do anything, VPN is encryped connection. vpn not only used to download torrent. there are other usage of vpn such as someone connecting back to the company network by VPN. it would be unrealistic if the throttle VPN. they can do it but we dont know will they do so or not.
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post Aug 3 2010, 03:56 PM

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so if i providing tm insider news am i considered as spies?
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post Aug 3 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 03:57 PM)
btw did u reply my pm ?
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now i am looking into it..
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post Aug 3 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(wkn @ Aug 3 2010, 03:58 PM)
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do you know which sides we are doing the injection?


Added on August 3, 2010, 4:09 pm
QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 03:57 PM)
btw did u reply my pm ?
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replied you.

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post Aug 3 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 04:14 PM)
If you don't know what we mean by packet injection or you believe that packet injection automatically means server sided attacks you should stop talking about the issue cause you don't know what you're saying :/

When you want to alter the data being sent by an application you have the option to do it by manually editing the program executable with a debugger, wrapping the winsock send/recv functions and modifying the data en route in process memory or even doing it at the OS level by crafting your own Ethernet frames from scratch. None of this is illegal because it doesn't involve you breaking into the system/network on the receiving end.

The entire point was just to obfuscate the traffic enough so that it would get past the traffic shaping devices which are currently performing a MITM attack for basically all your HTTP traffic.

@developer

No need to talk more. I think you and I have different methods (since you mentioned headers) but we can always talk about it later on MSN or something biggrin.gif
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lets talk tonight at msn or something about the method you and me are applying.



QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 04:17 PM)
i send him my msn, i think we all can have a discussion later,

BTW reduce this discussion about this PI, it will tested only and will not be posted here.. so there no need to worries or buthurt, should i say ?
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already got your msn.



QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 04:22 PM)
Thanks, I appreciate your VPN which you've been running for about 4 years now biggrin.gif Been recommending you to users who've PMed me.

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And once again, packet injection is NOT illegal. The whole point is just to obfuscate the traffic so that the traffic shapers do not pick up on the blacklisted traffic. It still has to be readable by the system on the other end (the webserver you're downloading from) without affecting it at all.
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there are someone who dont know much about it and start blabbering around and saying that's illegal. seems that i missed the fun.



QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 04:26 PM)
It's funny how some of you guys basically support burning down the TM HQ but this method is frowned upon. I wonder what you're going to do once TM caps your OpenVPN protocol traffic?

As though an ISP which is performing 24/7 MITM attacks on HTTP protocol traffic is so bloody legal. Have you ever stopped to wonder about user privacy issues? If they can monitor + throttle every HTTP GET/POST method based on the URL being passed, don't you think that can link those URLs to IP addresses?
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talk about this 2nite on msn.



QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 04:37 PM)
I guess. There are many programming and networking techniques that your daily applications use which were spawned from hacking techniques. People just don't understand them so they keep using it.

P2Pover uses ARP cache poisoning

GG uses spoofed UDP addressing + UDP NAT traversal

All your pirated games have noCD cracks which have been unpacked + modified in a debugger

I mention PI once and people go 'NUUU U GO JAIL'? Lol >_>
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name it nicely then we call them as reverse engineering.

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post Aug 3 2010, 05:27 PM

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just a note to you guys, the TM engineer team has done adjusting the ppstream throttling thingy. anyone can help me test it out?


Added on August 3, 2010, 5:28 pmwipe my earlier reply. they are still adjusting it?


Added on August 3, 2010, 5:34 pmno changes to anything except updating the list is faster. maybe i will try on another timeslot.

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post Aug 3 2010, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(eternalshiroh @ Aug 3 2010, 05:37 PM)
i thought TM not intend to throttle PPS by your insiders?
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they say not intended to throttle pps, but they are tweaking it somehow.


QUOTE(liwei92 @ Aug 3 2010, 05:45 PM)
SO now pps can use?
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no gua..

QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 05:53 PM)
just bear with it
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agreed

QUOTE(adiza7 @ Aug 3 2010, 06:07 PM)
Tmnet try to stabilized their network due to heavy traffic especially in downloading. It's bad, but no so terrible, thinks of good side, more stable network, more stable speed we can get, beside we have a server, still we can manage whatever file, you know what I mean..

Choww....
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their aim right now is this. but there are other reason why they do this also.
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post Aug 3 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(johnmooo @ Aug 3 2010, 08:38 PM)
I think they not block file type, they just block p2p method, i try dl rmvb file from ftp site, it seem ok.
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ftp not affected.


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QUOTE(yoda @ Aug 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Just having a chat with my uncle who works with tm in charge of inter state & inter country fiber. He told me that current local & international bandwidth is already saturated. They have only 80 G bps currently. Upgrade will not come so soon only 2012 only they can increase the bandwidth four fold to 320 Gbps.using a new laser technology.
That explain all the throttling. In the meantime, we have to live with that and expect more "surprise" to come
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acctually there is more "surprise" to come. and by the numbers your uncle given, it is partially correct. their network is saturated for international bandwidth but not local.

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post Aug 4 2010, 12:21 AM

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unfavorable for p2pers.
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post Aug 4 2010, 12:30 AM

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torrent seems back to normal
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:31 AM

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can someone confirm to me, DDL throttle or torrent throttle. i dont wanna know about ppstream.


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QUOTE(kylee700 @ Aug 4 2010, 01:12 AM)
does this apply to unifi too?
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no. unifi is not affected at the moment.

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post Aug 4 2010, 01:39 AM

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getting torrent for mkv and avi and rmbv at full speed at the moment.


Added on August 4, 2010, 1:56 amits torrent happy hour now.


Added on August 4, 2010, 2:12 ampps @ 200kbps now. 20KBPS

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post Aug 4 2010, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Aug 4 2010, 02:28 AM)
i wish we send mail to tm can work...... i check out tm web .. have this term 

http://www.streamyx.com.my/customer_care/c...stomer_care_faq

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call help line their say didt block.. check web FAQ it show TM’s policy had restricted and enforced the P2P regulations to avoid heavy congestion for Malaysia Internet cloud. Currently P2P is consuming greater bandwidth than other normal Internet applications (e.g. web browsing) for Malaysia’s local internet cloud. <<--- what it mean ah?? some 1 can tell me?
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they did not block. they just throttle. what their help line cs told u is correct. they did not block. they say tm policy has restricted and enforce the p2p regulation to avoid heavy congestion. doesn't mean block


Added on August 4, 2010, 12:10 pmmp3 not throttled? as far as i know mp3 still ok.

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post Aug 4 2010, 01:40 PM

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seems everything has become normal for me even without vpn.
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 4 2010, 01:42 PM)
Woot I just packaged one of the exploit methods I was talking about yesterday into a fully portable application biggrin.gif

Downloading an .mkv during throttle period on a 1mbps line (without bypass) :

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Downloading an .mkv during throttle period on a 1mbps line (with bypass) :

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Additionally, I found four more exploits in their throttling implementation which I could probably also repackage into applications. No proxy/vpn server or file renaming required. Someone at TM didn't do their homework properly biggrin.gif
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i salute you to the fullest! automation script for every file with that extension? just run in background and it will do its magic.
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:45 PM

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lets discuss this in private.
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Aug 4 2010, 01:46 PM)
Careful guys those TMNUT spy might smell this...
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they can smell but they wont able to know what method he use.
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:49 PM

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nope, there are nothing for them.
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post Aug 4 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(rainbow6 @ Aug 4 2010, 01:50 PM)
Since when did TM do their homework properly? All they are doing is do a trials and errors and probably reading a lot of tips from this forum. Most probably a lot of errors.
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that why they call it "experimental"
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post Aug 4 2010, 02:17 PM

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my college using streamyx 2m package RM 618 fix ip starting with 219 is able to download avi files, mkv files from megaupload free account for full speed.

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