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Streamyx TMnet throttle MKV, AVI and PPS mayb Youtube !, Solution Removed Thank to 007 SPY

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post Aug 2 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(valent @ Aug 2 2010, 08:47 PM)
So itunes, i paid for a movie $USD 9.99 and capped at download

illegal? lol..
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itunes use direct download for mp4 files?
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post Aug 3 2010, 12:29 AM

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ok... more aggressive throttling coming up.
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post Aug 3 2010, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(CleverDick @ Aug 3 2010, 12:46 AM)
newest info from insider? hmm.gif
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what they told me is,

1. they are fine tuning the throttling thing..

2. pps is bandwidth hogger, they dont like it, cause connectivity problem and loading up their "server"??? .

3. contention ratio is not according to their website. its just serve as a basic guideline.

4. 50% of the streamyx user under HSI is affected by this so called "experiment".

5. they changed their equipment recently to support next generation network. something regarding ipv6 and bandwidth management/traffic shaping.

6. they are applying something like, as long can jalan sudah, speed is guaranteed locally, overseas content like from china are luar negara. they don't have control over the networks in china for torrenting and pps.

7. call support are informed to ask user to do a speedtest on speedtest.tm.net.my and speedtest.streamyx.com.my. if the speed is >80% of user subscribed, tell user is fine at here, no outtage. if user complain p2p or torrent is slow, tell them we can limit torrent if we want (stated in TNC) in a nice way while pushing users to upgrade.

8. they MAY announce another service interruption notice nationwide until a date specified in the annoucement for the experiment to conclude?
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post Aug 3 2010, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 01:12 AM)
so only 50 of HSI ? waht is HSI ?
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high speed internet. 50% of hsi users, not all because some area the equipment cannot handle yet. normally hsi users are 1m, 2m and 4m users, their adsl modulation is ADSL2+ and their capping speed for 1m is around 2048 and for 4m is around 4096 or 5012. this does not apply to all. if users is connected to old dslam exchange may be not affected. easy way to identify if a users is on old exchange is if the users subscribe to 1m, the users capping speed is 1024/384 while for 512 users is 512/256. tm have a few type of dslam. the old generation one is ATM based if i not mistaken while new one is IP based.
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post Aug 3 2010, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(fairx @ Aug 3 2010, 01:15 AM)
ini macam kensel la mau upgrade to 4mb line..
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hold dulu. if they really throttle that aggressively baru cancel upgrade.

QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 01:18 AM)
4mb rugi liao
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yea. same goes to me too. damn my insider never told me about this until i asked.



the whole point for this is,

TM OFFER NEW PACKAGE AND ATTRACTIVE PROMOTION, FREE NETBOOK!
and lock you in 2 years contract. you cant terminate because you have already signed for the tnc.

the only way to terminate is seek help from MCMC, try to make your line look as bad as possible, then ask mcmc to help you to terminate under unsatisfactorily service so no need to pay for termination fees and void contract.


Added on August 3, 2010, 1:25 am
QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 01:22 AM)
oh mai.. those live in kampung wont kena those live in town will kena

better i pindah go kampung
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nowadays kampung also use ipdslam. and kampung users if they got streamyx coverage, 1m also get assigned as HSI.

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post Aug 3 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(evolution120 @ Aug 3 2010, 01:25 AM)
just wait for YTL.. if YTL is better than tmnut, thats it for tmnut..
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i dunno about ytl. my place confirm no coverage. streamyx is my only choice.



QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 01:26 AM)
haiz rugi my 4mb.. i spent so much time trying to apply 4mb.. now this
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unipack?



QUOTE(fairx @ Aug 3 2010, 01:26 AM)
not necessarily.

many kampung area (like mine) just receive streamyx coverage.. so they got the new one

my opinion la..
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nowadays if u baru get streamyx coverage, most probably it is ip based dslam.



QUOTE(lok3i @ Aug 3 2010, 01:28 AM)
kampung also kne la..
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yea..


they have a guideline to activating streamyx under HSI.
SNR margin must be >= 15 while line attenuation must <= 40. or else they cant activate it.
will have alot of problem like dsl blinking and so on.. but most of the contractor dont adhere to the guideline, they just simply on the modem and see. oh boleh adsl stable.. activate directly.


Added on August 3, 2010, 1:38 am
QUOTE(CleverDick @ Aug 3 2010, 01:28 AM)
wahlao go die la TM, promised unlimited also want to throttle users, what kind of cb promise is this???
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they only promise you unlimited time usage. which means u can stay connected for 24 hours. not unlimited speed.



QUOTE(notmycupoftea @ Aug 3 2010, 01:28 AM)
saddest thing is...i can't even watch youtube now...
i miss those days watching youtube without buffering
now buffering buffering loading loading until my white hair come out
facebook slow slow, forum also slow slow...only msn ok ok  shakehead.gif
i am using BB 2Mbps, this is what i get now  cry.gif
user posted image
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i really miss the days when youtube buffer no need wait....


QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 01:34 AM)
ok i will leak abit of info here from me and rivarpn testing

Yes youtube is throttled also.. how ? we will not disclose anymore info, so dont ask
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memang throttled. confirm.



QUOTE(CleverDick @ Aug 3 2010, 01:34 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

you should probably call them as you're getting lesser than 80% of your subscribed speed...
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you can call them to complain, but they will ask you to do stupid troubleshooting that waste time and in the end they say will make a report for you, here take a report number, and then it is up to the technician either he want to come or not.


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post Aug 3 2010, 01:51 AM

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from what i can tell you is, TM is following every standard that MCMC set. so before you sign that 2 years contract, please read properly the terms and condition and even that they still reserve the rights to change the tnc anytime they like..

they have already implemented ip service control long time ago..

well the good news are they are rerouting the routing.


Added on August 3, 2010, 1:53 ami advice forumer try to pay attention to these timeframe..

1am to 8am, 8am to 11am, 11am to 5pm, 5pm to 1am.

check speed on these timeframe for p2p and youtube/video files.

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post Aug 3 2010, 01:56 AM

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for timeslot 3 and 4, 20KBps.
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Aug 3 2010, 02:25 AM)
Good. That means my choice is set. Been thinking about whether to apply for Unifi or Streamyx when I go study in KL for quite some time now.
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they may throttle unifi soon?

at first i also planning to apply unifi if i go study at KL. but now this make me think twice.

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post Aug 3 2010, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 02:35 AM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

unifail vs screamyx ? i prefer to scream than fail
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unifi acctually not bad (for now), just wait until the user base grow big and we'll see.


Added on August 3, 2010, 2:39 am
QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 3 2010, 02:36 AM)
u think ? while screamyx is majority customer they dare to do this.. unifi u think ?
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they wont throttle unifi for now because streamyx user are more than unifi. unifi tak cukup bandwidth also what. even with 60gb cap they will still throttle your data. imagine someone seeding a mkv movie at 10mbps.

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post Aug 3 2010, 10:42 AM

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rename to HTML
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 11:44 AM)
Lol, after 24 hours of testing I finally found a security exploit in their throttling device. No need for a HTTP/SOCKS proxy, VPN or renaming files.. just packet injection biggrin.gif

Keep working on your regex's TM wink.gif
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just a note to you, tm already have deep packet inspection. i think they can fix that, i suggest dont reveal it. keep it to your self or start a group and discuss about it.


QUOTE(othniel91 @ Aug 3 2010, 12:18 PM)
lol speaking of pps, my mom was so frustrated last night due to pps, can't watch her drama. i duno y the movie load was 100% slower then usual.
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i kena from both of my parents.
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(faizalhansuke @ Aug 3 2010, 01:56 PM)
so what? they promoting UNLIMITED download with the small bloody printed fair usage

for example i just tested the test from glasnost for flash video, it proves they throttle our connection
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unlimited ONLINE time la bro..



QUOTE(evolution120 @ Aug 3 2010, 02:07 PM)
regarding thos throttle? nah, its useless. they didnt announce anything yet, like vapeace said, its still on experimental stages, they can easily deny it.
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yes. it is just experimental la.
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(CleverDick @ Aug 3 2010, 02:32 PM)
UNLIMITED USAGE la bro...
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doesn't mean unlimited data.
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(CleverDick @ Aug 3 2010, 02:37 PM)
data = usage, if they limit our data then it's no longer unlimited usage !!!
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please check tmnet website what they define by unlimited.
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:41 PM

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rizvanrp, the method you are talking about works. but the things is is labor intensive, except if have a automated program or a server that do the work..
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post Aug 3 2010, 02:50 PM

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vapeace please dont leak or provide the solution for the method. i have tried that and its partially working. but for ppstream its quite troublesome.
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post Aug 3 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 02:59 PM)
Yeah, I know. I only wanted to use it to bypass the HTTP filetype limitation. I don't really care for PPS since I don't use it.. and yeah, I can easily write a program to automate the process for each TCP stream smile.gif
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all in header.....

QUOTE(rainbow6 @ Aug 3 2010, 03:04 PM)
I'm in network and system development as well as security deployment in many areas and at the moment I'm clueless as to what TM trying to achieve. I put the blame on cisco, avaya and the huawei out there. What they are doing is not a long term solution, only short term but costing TM millions to deploy the solutions. If the content providers start using https, what will they do next? TM spies, PM me for cheaper solution to throttle though I probably charge you same as what Cisco charging you.
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final word. no enough bandwidth.


QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 3 2010, 03:07 PM)
They obviously want to be the world leader in internet censorship. Even China's nationwide firewall isn't as advanced as what they're using. No worries though, it's not like we don't have any experts in network security that will pick up the gauntlet and challenge their throttling tech. I'm just sharpening my skills every time I do this wink.gif
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every system has their weakness. what have you done there is good. just dont leak it out if possible until things gone bad?
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QUOTE(jassergck @ Aug 3 2010, 03:27 PM)
So guys ..with Vpn did u guys can dl  mkv and avi file normally back?
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and bolehroute.
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QUOTE(jassergck @ Aug 3 2010, 03:35 PM)
mean is work..So i think i nid to  get one
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i suggest you get one. eventhough tm throttle less agressively, your speed is still slow.

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