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p4n6
post Nov 18 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 17 2010, 10:01 PM)
Agree it's dangerous if you lose your password.
So, don't use the YES email account.
That's half your login info already.
Maybe YES should use different login name instead.
Especially dangerous are key-loggers on your PC if you use the YES Life program.

As for monthly caps, well, it is a prepaid service so all you stand to lose is your prepaid credit.

I wonder how much the Buzz phone costs?
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The password should able to be changed if you lost it.

How often you see people steal password to use the internet? it is not worth the money. Unlike stealing handbags, you can sell and get cash.

And also depends on the speed, the data you can download is also limited per second/minute/hour/day, if you can change the password on time, I think you can cut your losses.

I do hope there is a log history to check your usage on the web, in case the password being used by other people without your knowledge.

My opinion is the username/password method of authenticating users are very convenient and it encourages multiple devices single account.

I'm just curious whether it allows multiple login at the same time.


Added on November 18, 2010, 9:06 am
QUOTE(biatch0 @ Nov 18 2010, 02:24 AM)
Well, I already did say earlier that it will be slightly cheaper than Pay-As-You-Go maxis/digi data much earlier. Why are people acting so surprised? smile.gif
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Err .. because most people here are heavy users and by calculating the price, YES is more pricey than other operators.

By calculation, if you use more than 3G per month, the Pay-Per-Use price for YES will increase exponentially as compared to package offered by Maxis, Digi, Celcom, U and P1

I'm confident YES will launch bundle package very soon to counter their shortcoming. 3G service has gone thru this pay-per-use concept around the world at their early stage but failed miserably.

And when bundle package kicks in, so will FUP, throttling, congestion ...

This post has been edited by p4n6: Nov 18 2010, 09:06 AM
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 08:59 AM)
The password should able to be changed if you lost it.

How often you see people steal password to use the internet? it is not worth the money. Unlike stealing handbags, you can sell and get cash.

And also depends on the speed, the data you can download is also limited per second/minute/hour/day, if you can change the password on time, I think you can cut your losses.

I do hope there is a log history to check your usage on the web, in case the password being used by other people without your knowledge.

My opinion is the username/password method of authenticating users are very convenient and it encourages multiple devices single account.

I'm just curious whether it allows multiple login at the same time.

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You can't lose your password. You FORGET your password.
However it's when it's stolen without your knowledge that's scary.
That's why I say YES should have a different login and password for email and devices.

Sad about the price though.
We'll see tomorrow how they can sweeten the deal.
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:06 AM

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a celcom berukband user here. was considering this.
i wish theres an unlimited package...

pay per usage is definitely none of my interest
i'll rather to keep the traditional phone, tq
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:16 AM

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Hahaha.. and here peeps thought YTL was gonna bend over backwards for the heavy users? They just told all of you to shove it up where the sun don't shine... Light browsers and e-mail checkers? Sure, come aboard!

It'll be a cold, cold day in hell before Wireless supersedes Fixed line Internet as the superior offering.... in all aspects (Line caps, speed, stability, pings)
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:19 AM

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well..guess my high hopes for this 4G has finally comes to the end. We are made to wait again for another true high speed at "real" affordable price.

Sorry "Yes", you're officially out fm my list.
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Nov 18 2010, 10:16 AM)
Hahaha.. and here peeps thought YTL was gonna bend over backwards for the heavy users? They just told all of you to shove it up where the sun don't shine... Light browsers and e-mail checkers? Sure, come aboard!

It'll be a cold, cold day in hell before Wireless supersedes Fixed line Internet as the superior offering.... in all aspects (Line caps, speed, stability, pings)
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thats my tought too rclxms.gif


they aim on low and mid usage ppl!
for heavy 1 it will be dis advantage cause heavy user also congest thier
network...
so with out the heavy user the low and mid user will get rocket fast network..
heavy user got cash then can go rocket fast

seems logic rclxms.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 10:31 AM

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well, some users like myself have reasons to use wireless.
im still willing to pay RM99.75 for that (so yeah it says 5GB cap, but in actual its unlimited).

most of the time i got HSDPA on the celcom berukband.
except 7pm to late night. if they do something about this im happy already

occasionally on steam games and hell yeah the lag is horrid lulz

This post has been edited by ultimaweaponx: Nov 18 2010, 10:32 AM
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:05 PM

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I can see a clear line cut between surfers/users and downloaders. YES is for internet surfers/users. Price is reasonably cheap if YTL can provide a good quality of service (fast n reliable line). Why malaysia internet line sucks? U know I know, there are too many GBs downloaders x24 hours out there.

Let alone YES for internet surfers/users smile.gif Go away irresponsible GBs downloaders thumbup.gif

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oh so many negative feedback already...

sure some guy from YTL is monitoring feedbacks from lowyat.net.... they better revise or come with a unlimited but throttled speed plan...otherwise all other 3g and P1 would keep smiling away...

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post Nov 18 2010, 12:17 PM

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yeah their plan like no different.. so why choose yes.. might as well just say no to yes cause they are just like us...


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post Nov 18 2010, 12:30 PM

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c'mon guys, u only see half the story and already start complaining? Let wait til 2moro la, i'm sure YTL is not stupid and they sure have something up their sleeve!
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:38 PM

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YTL mentioned that price will be cheaper than other 3G providers but according to comparison it appears that Maxis is even cheaper than YTL? So where is the logic? As to the current understanding, they only targeted at a low bandwidth hoggers which is more on niche market rather than mass market? And how they gonna get the ROI fm nearly RM2B they invested into this projects?

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:21 PM

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Since there is no commitment, no contract and no expiry, it would be good to keep one handy in your drawer for when your Streamyx/Celcom/P1 craps out on you.

You can keep it in red box on your wall with sign that says "In Case Of Emergency, Break Glass". cool2.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:33 PM

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But you still have to invest in their device.... isn't it cheaper to use present 3G services in case of emergency? Just get a weekly plan etc and you're set.
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I think we should vent out the frustration of the price as well as the services after it is launched and tested.

Not sure where did that pricing source come from, but don't think it's ever been released yet. According to analyst covering the company, they were brought to the company to test the service capabilities etc and, its quite promising. And, 1 thing for sure is, pricing is yet to be announced to the general public.

Anyway, let's hope that the service would bring in competition and advancement to the nation instead of the usual monopolized service. Fingers crossed....
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:37 PM

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Still living in the last hour? Pricing has already been revealed by Yes themselves....
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you have to compare apples to apples doh.gif

In terms of pay-as-go structure, 9sen/MB is pretty much the cheapest you can get without any commitment. Hopefully this will spur the other providers to cut their stupid 1sen/KB model that has been applied since the stone age. With such a business model, Yes 4G is for the occasional users, not heavy users or smart phone (Android/Apple/Win7 etc) user, you can have Maxis/Digi/Celcom for that.

Come to think of it, what type of subscribers are more, data plan users, or occasional users. As such, it is highly unlikely that YES will crash and burn like P1 did. Same technology with P1, but probably 10 times less data usage, based on the monthly P1 data cap. With P1, subscribers want to 'maximize' their line by finishing their quota no matter what. Based on my half past six guesstimate, they are probably targeting the ocassional internet on phone users, or the ones that use their internet for web surfing and email only.

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:39 PM

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Can you explain what the Yes Zoom device is for then?
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QUOTE(chris2k @ Nov 18 2010, 01:37 PM)
Still living in the last hour? Pricing has already been revealed by Yes themselves....
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The so called pricing at this moment is just the very beginning of the package...let's wait till tomorrow, then.


Added on November 18, 2010, 1:42 pm
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Can you explain what the Yes Zoom device is for then?
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Yes Zoom is an all in one home modem with voice and WiFi

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:46 PM

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Thank you Maxsimax. Please tell that to post #251 who's edited his post a few times from "not aiming for PC users" to whatever it is now wink.gif

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