4G phone ??
what u type o
here is internet discuss thread

maybe u dont go to yes website..

lol lol - Uni in da list when you want to sign in to update details it requests u to put in ID and password as per email ... u know what there is no password in the email sent by Yes. Replied to ID email and receive auto response - will be replied within 2 business hours. see how true that is n the password that u put in when signing up for ID will not work this is not a good sign

self edited: received a reply - saying that password will be mailed after the service launch on Nov 19 wasted my time trying

This post has been edited by g5sim: Nov 6 2010, 10:31 AM

My Question is "Will YTL offers reasonable broadband speed with REASONABLE price?"
After all, I knew that I shouldn't expect too much on Malaysia Broadband services...

To be fair to all, full uncap speeds with volume limits to keep the bandwidth hoggers away.

If you download fast more data will be moved faster and thus more you have to pay.

We can't be allowing the bandwidth hoggers to cause the whole network to cripple just because of their selfish attitudes.

The average user would want to surf smoothly, view their streaming
videos without delay and do some casual downloading off and on.
Maybe there could be "free late hours" during early hours in the morning for people to download as much as they want but stay clear away during business and peak hours at night.These are the times when you need to manage the network resources carefully for decent/fast latencies.It is these times when complaints are brought.

So meaning, peak hours during the day from 11am to 11pm should be volume cap and hours in between the network should be fully released.
Those who surf at such hours have no right to complain because they are not the average user/working class. Don't you find that very seldom you hear people complain that their internet speed/experience suck at 3am?You can easily question them back what sort of activity you're doing at that time and they will keep their lips tight.

I applaud the move on paying how much you used in a month but the amount charged per GB must be reasonable.

Yeah, U-Mobile has been terrific. Right.

In case you didn't know, if it wasn't for the "bandwidth hoggers":

- Internet worldwide would still be 56kbps; therefore
- the WWW would still be filled with white pages and black text only; therefore
- flickr would not exist; AND
- youtube would not exist

It has always been the "bandwidth hoggers" that push bandwidth requirements forward. Everyone is selfish to some extent, learn to consider other points of view.

I agree with you

Yes, please implement that at least during peak or business hours where bandwidth/latency priority is crucial for daily routines.

During peak times of the day from 10am till 11pm, the volume cap must be in place.These are the times when SMEs/offices needs to make voip calls, make online transactions, surf the internet with ease and communicate. From then on, only weirdos or the unemployed stay up late for their unhealthy habits. It's ok to let go after 12am because from observation, most complainants do not report slow internet speeds in the early hours of the morning.

There are exception with some who have to work in early morning shifts or rush for last minute assignments, but with the reduced number of people going online after 12am things should ease up.

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Added on November 5, 2010, 7:06 pmWell the bandwidth hoggers which you're referring to are not those who just view bandwidth rich contents, stream videos/radio stations or those who only read pages in black and white.

They download heaps of unhealthy porn contents and contents which they don't even have the time to use in their hard drives.

You can stick with your Streamyx for all your unlimited download needs. So what's your point of view?
Have you considered those who need to do occasional downloading, make important voip calls, stream radio channels and follow up with the latest news happening?

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 5 2010, 07:06 PM

This is about YTL's offering is it not? There are'nt any 4G/Wimax capable mobile phones in our market (like the HTC Evo) so I asked the question daaah. I have my doubts it will take off so soon. 3G is barely here.

This post has been edited by palmjack: Nov 5 2010, 08:16 PM

Agree! Yes is about convergence so any question regarding phones on Yes network is OK by me.

I've read this sentence about 5 times and still am unable to understand the point you are trying to put forth.

So it's okay if I download lots of healthy porn which I have time to use? Content is content, regardless of whether or not it's "healthy" or no, as you put it.

I'm not a Streamyx user. My point of view is as a person who wants our local Internet infrastructure to improve. The issue IMHO is that giving our local ISPs an excuse to throttle heavy users is a very very slippery slope. As it is, our local ISPs already have contention ratios and backbones that are below average at best. Saying that we give them the thumbs up for throttling will only cause them to increase contention ratios and as a result, continue to use existing backhauls for much longer - therefore slowing down improvement of local Internet speeds.

Your idea of throttling is a bad thing in a country like ours where there is no "real" competition to the incumbent Telekom Malaysia when it comes to true wired connectivity - and take into consideration that TM has been doing this for years with no repercussions (pretty much). Apply this idea of throttling in a country with open competition - doesn't matter which - and you will see that ISP go under VERY VERY quickly... Nobody wants to buy a car knowing that it only goes a total of 200km a month - think of it that way.

Just because TM can't do it doesn't mean other can't. They can't do volume caps at certain hours in a day is because they have people aren't capable of managing their network properly but this doesn't mean other networks can't.

Remember that TM wasn't reluctant to do volume caps for years until mobile operators started doing so?

I'm telling this through my observation about complaints. People complain when they can't browse their favourite sites smoothly when they come back from work, and during the day. Most don't when they go to bed. The thing which is happening to TM's lousy network management is the opposite of what was mentioned. They make you frustrated when you are sitting in front of your computer at the right time but things eases up when you go to bed.
What for you want to subscribe a net connection which you won't get to use it most of the time?

Why not only release the volume cap and allow unlimited downloads during free hours instead when most normal users go to bed instead. Bandwidth hoggers can do whatever they want during that time when people go to sleep.

It's fair right? Everyone pays the same and deserve to get what they pay for equally.

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Added on November 5, 2010, 9:00 pmThey are going to implement the same unified phone number approach which is how Google Voice works.
One single number which rings on whichever phone/pc/netbook is logon when people call you up. So people will be able to get you wherever you are.
It sounds similar. Could it be that Google Voice will be teaming up with them? Sounds interesting.

Demo:


Throw away your old TM Homeline. Everything now works over IP.All we need now is a dedicated high speed connection.
Say buh bye to sms. People will use email, IM and even free value added services by telcos such as the next generation push to talk. Everything will route through the internet.All you need to pay is your internet bill.
Modern 4G networks is meant to be be data only.
Here's one nice Push To Talk App which works over 4G/3.5G+ networks.
TouchToTalk(TiKL). Why do we need to pay Maxis when such service should be free?


This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 5 2010, 09:08 PM

umobile whats that ? can eat one ah ? lol..

umobile still alive ? thought they bungkus long time ago first with mitv then umobile with their funky number then ..

what is umobile doing now ah ?

i lol at yr comments.. and i kinda doubt they can deliver what they preach..

if they can why hell yeah they just earn another customer who will glady part his hard earn money..

rather than giving to tmnuts

We preach with liberty of speech.People have the right to discern whether it's pleasant to their ears or not.

Not force em onto your ears whether you want to hear or not.Those who can't make decisions for themselves can always stay with Streamyx!

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 5 2010, 09:13 PM

Didn't you read the news? Singapore Government has indirect shares in it via STT.

The same company which also owns Starhub.

Now they're smart to focus on cities such as JB, Seremban, Klang Valley, Ipoh and Penang.You should have figured it out by now.

So you are saying that the issues that TM users are facing are PURELY because of bandwidth hoggers? Nothing to do with the fact that the contention ratio on Streamyx is something like 1:100?

Except what you are asking for isn't the same or equal? If I pay RM100 for a 2Mbps connection and you pay RM100 for a 2Mbps connection... why is it that I can't fully utilize it 24 hours a day just because you choose not to? So in other words, everyone is equal... but some people are more equal than others right?

In the same logic, if we both buy condos... but I choose not to live in my condo... that means you can't live in your condo either?

No, thanks. I'd wait for unifi instead..........