if subject at 1 meter away, both also using same settings, then almost the same i guess.

oh like that.. i need prime first before flash..
after play prime.. boring edy with kit lens for indoor..

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Try and play flash first. It would be totally different. I also last time like you too. Either get a new lens or go for flash. Prime would take you so far but with flash its totally a new experience.

Over a year ago, 10th July 2009 to be exact, I built my own ring flash light modifier! One can either stick a lens of 77mm diameter through the hole, or turn the modifier upside-down to become a directional light, looking very much like a beauty dish.


This is how it looks, straight on, through the ring.


Enche Ted the lighting guru with the directional light.


Muzzammil against the wall.


Muzzammil not against the wall. I have to say I really like the directional light mode!


Through the ring.


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smashpOp with a light from the side.


Isz, camera salesman, through the ring...


...and Rames with that beauty dish-like effect.


How about some macro?


This was a far more difficult shot (thanks Kevin Wong for taking this!) Two flashes with wide-panel diffusers pulled out, and one flash with ring flash light modifier from above.


My inspiration to build this came from another lighting modifier master, Templar! His far more refined version is on the right. Trust an engineer to make precision look easy!


There was, also, this O-Flash RF175 light modifier - it was significantly heavier, but gives one stop better light transmission. Did I mention that the light modifier sucks power and decreases range significantly?

The bottom left picture with with the O-Flash; the bottom right, with my version, which had a warm cast.


Version 2, built on the 1st of August 2009, transforms and holds a Sony HVL-F58AM flash. However I'd rather lug around the Version 1 because the collapsed Version 2 doesn't fit in much smaller bags.

Someday when I am freer, I shall revise this into an even smaller design, I hope. It would be too easy to make a collapsible beauty dish - but ring flash?


Left is Version 2 next to a Metz Mecablitz 15 MS-1 Digital. Powered by 2 AAA batteries, that ring flash amazingly packs a punch - it can even be triggered by your camera's pop-up flash! Now, if only it would fit lenses having a filter thread size bigger than 72mm... (though, you'd want to stick a medium telephoto through this, so you'd probably zoom your lens through it.)

slowly will move to flash utilization..
hope can explore more later but u know.. budget is always critical..

maybe after sometimes.. will try want albnok show just now.. seems the contrast is very nice..

i wanna ask how good is beercan for low light compared to other zoom lens like the kit zoom ?? too abd no budget for the G f2.8

dietrich : Beercan? Good! No money for G f2.8? Get my Sigma f2.8! XD

O_o u selling all ur gears a moo?

i'm selling my 70200G, PM me if interested.

all getting funds to buy new gear?

Yey. Aperture and iPhoto has been updated to read NEX-3 and NEX-5's RAW

zstan : Got different project. XD

The whole idea of a flash is to help with the lighting, whether it is direct or bounced. The flash is not a magical device that will turn your photography into some genius level or what-not.

Photography needs light to work, no question about it. Flashes provide light but you control the exposure. Keep that in mind. There's no such thing as direct flash or bounce or whatever is better. It should be how you want it to be.

Here are a few generally misunderstood notions about pop-up flash:

1. Pop-up flash are harsh
Really? Why is that so? The fact is that the pop-up flash is the weakest flash you can have. The external flashes are all more powerful than the puny pop-up so why is the pop-up flash labelled as harsh? Doesn't it make more sense that more powerful light will create harsher lighting? Don't believe me? Try looking at a spotlight at close range.

The pop up is in fact not as harsh as you would believe it to be. It's limited by it's weak output. To get decent lighting from the flash you have to get close but sometimes you're too close. Thus the harshness.

2. The pop-up flash sucks as a light source
This happens when people try to make the pop-up flash their main light source. It's never design to be a main light source for anything. It's designed more as a fill flash. Use it accordingly and it will work well for you. Use it more during the daytime and not during the nightime when you know you don't have a good enough light source to work with.

Flash photography is not just about having a flash gun. It's more about how you use the light from the flash gun to help you get the pics you want.

wah sifu ted pon ada. Been wanting to do that but its not that portable and somewhat intrusive

price report
NEX3 twin kit + 8G MSPD = NEX5 zoom kit + 8G MSPD = 2300

no other freebies like bag etc?

albnok: really nice la ur DIY ringflash.... i like how the flash lights up peoples' faces yet still keep the background dark...

u fire direct flash with low iso and high shutter speed and small aperture also can keep the background dark ma.