yes im quite desperate to get a new car right now haha

go for 1.6SX

urs is 2.0?

nice lesson

nope, 1.6SX

Good reasons buying the 2.0 :

1. more power
2. 6 airbags
3. leather seats
4. auto-cruise control
5. motor driven (electric) power steering
6. drive-by-wire throttle system

Bad reasons buying the 2.0 :

1. more downpayment
2. more monthly installment
3. more insurance premium
4. more (higher) road tax to pay
5. more FC (if mainly on city driving)

well i could say that leather seats r nt as gd as 1st batch....
DbWTS 1.6SX also hv...

Nope..1.6 got 'Drive-by-Cable Throttle System'
Other 1.6 owners can clarify this? bro KFC or bro phelix perhaps?

This post has been edited by izputra: Jul 19 2010, 01:40 PM

1.6sx is still using normal throttle system..as far as i know only 2.0 using DbWTS

lol
same 1 la....
dun say 1.6 lose to saga blm throttle system...

i'm still trying to understand and find out why the majority of the buyers went for the 1.6LSX. i understand it is value for money, push start button, ECS, and many more (which i prefer as well) but what about tyre noise and slower acceleration? perhaps slightly higher fuel consumption can still be accepted but what about stiffer ride? is it practical to drive with 215/45R17 given the terrible roads that we have in malaysia? if we change to better tyre like michelin, does the tyre noise be reduced significantly? what about the ride with still low profile tyre? still stiff?

the question is, "is comfort being compromised for features, look (17inch rim), and cornering ability"?

when the market is filled with 1.6SX, i believe the resale value for the SX will be much better than the EX. is this generally true for used car market? demand for higher spec. exceeds lower spec.?

yup, i believe resale value will b abit better than EX, or mayb the same...
why i choose this 1.6SX?? yup, worth for money and more features....
if u said comfort being compromised, i would say u're mistaken...it's still comfortable...
the only cause that the noise produce while running on the road is bcoz of low profile tyres....anyway, nt so loud at all...still consider ok...driveable...
FC tend to be higher yes, due 2 the 17'' rim...5 of them include spare 1...stiff?? it makes u feel real good gripping ability, as for cornering was better than EX i suppost...
i hvn't change to michelin/yokohama yet....i will use this tyres till it's worn....

what do you mean same bro?
and i try to understand why 1.6 would lose to saga BLM throttle system..?

if izputra said 1.6 using DbCTS
then it lose to saga blm's DbWTS....which is use at 2.0SX too...

i agree DBW is relatively new technology..but imho, cable throttle is still relevant and effective, not yet obsolete. its standard. if u ask me, if i can choose between wire or cable, i would choose the later. its good to hear the BLM can offer DBW system, but as we all know the DBW have a few drawbacks (even from big car manufactures).its new, but still not a 'win' features. some of the drivers in oversea even change their DBW back to cable throttle. my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by sallehsi: Jul 19 2010, 02:14 PM

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can explain DbW and DbC pros and cons??

Wah brother, you long time din pump petrol ar...where got so expensive??

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It is not a matter of lose or win. Both system serves its own purpose well that is to control the car speed. I quoted this from http://www.picoauto.com :

"The throttle cable has almost become redundant on today’s motor vehicle. The drive-by-wire system is by no means a new concept as it was introduced by BMW on their 7 series range back in 1988. The system BMW use is referred to as EML (German term for electronic throttle control). The system has now found its way onto other vehicles with humbler routes and can be found on base models. Historically a mechanical linkage between the accelerator pedal and the throttle butterfly has always existed, be it via a cable or via rods and linkages. These have now been replaced by sophisticated electronic control modules, sensors and actuators. This system is also referred to ‘Fly-by-Wire’.

There are several reasons why electronic throttle actuation is preferable to a conventional throttle cable:

* The vehicle’s on board electronic systems are able to control all of the engine’s operation with the exception of the amount of incoming air.
* The use of throttle actuation ensures that the engine only receives the correct amount of throttle opening for any give situation
* The optimisation of the air supply will also ensure that harmful exhaust emissions are kept to an absolute minimum and drivability is maintained, regardless of the circumstances. Coupling the electronic throttle actuation to the adaptive cruise control, traction control, idle speed control and vehicle stability control systems also means finer control can be achieved.

The use of such a system has advantages over the conventional cable version by:

* Eliminating the mechanical element of a throttle cable and substituting it with fast responding electronics, reduces the number of moving parts (and associated wear) and therefore requires minimum adjustment and maintenance.
* Greater accuracy of data improves the driveability of the vehicle, which in turn provides better response and economy."

i've been to Sg. Lembing last weekend. 3 cars. and below is general FC for petrol usage (KL - Sg Lembing - Kuantan - Sg. Lembing - Raub - KL)

NHC vtec = rm100
Forte 1.6SX = rm110
Wira = rm140

same route different driving style. but the wira is slow compared the other two. forte FC not bad isn't it?

p/s: all cars travel with 4 male adults

This post has been edited by Taipan052: Jul 19 2010, 02:49 PM