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sanjikun
post May 22 2005, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ May 21 2005, 05:48 PM)
yeah, bkb obviously, since you are going to get bkb as ur 1st item, you are going to sacrifise for MOM insane speed, and you will not own that much compare to it without mom.. since you dont own that much, money is hard to gain and you wont quick item.

Mom/bkb 1st...
If bkb then you can prevent from getting nuked/stun, but you cant even chase him, you cant kill a hero with a stun and hit him 2 or 3 times. Then he can start to run... If gang bang then different story of cause..
IF mom is ur 1st item, then you will get stun/purge etc.... {this is not applicable in 6.08, as mom doesn't have more movement bonus anymore)

So the main thing is you must know how to counter at the right time.. medusa is a quick farmer, provided she dun die too much to nuker thumbup.gif  sweat.gif
6 hero nthg special right? i have seens 1 ppl control 12 b4...
Get pawn too much by pugna? i can understand  biggrin.gif
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dont worry man...
i get MoM ---> threads ---> bkb --->crystalys--->reaver
i dont even need to gb to win - gimme either regen haste dd powerups to win can liaox... but there will be time where i bs to let teams get the kills.
no worries about money too - im very confident on my farming skills and i can farm neutral creeps starting lv 8.money will NEVER be a problem to me
yea i have to admit, medusa's hella good farmer, but if she gets restricted from farming at early, she cant do much either... low initial dmg(almost like razor's) made her suck(at early rounds) - only can kill/ks with chain at early rounds.
and never in my life i have been pwned by pugna - i juz hate using him where you cant kill when the kill is critical to survival/turnaround...zzzzzz
everyone, HATE PUGNA PLZKTHX!

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post May 22 2005, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 22 2005, 01:13 AM)
dont worry man...
i get MoM ---> threads ---> bkb --->crystalys--->reaver
i dont even need to gb to win - gimme either regen haste dd powerups to win can liaox... but there will be time where i bs to let teams get the kills.
no worries about money too - im very confident on my farming skills and i can farm neutral creeps starting lv 8.money will NEVER be a problem to me
yea i have to admit, medusa's hella good farmer, but if she gets restricted from farming at early, she cant do much either... low initial dmg(almost like razor's) made her suck(at early rounds) - only can kill/ks with chain at early rounds.
and never in my life i have been pwned by pugna - i juz hate using him where you cant kill when the kill is critical to survival/turnaround...zzzzzz
everyone, HATE PUGNA PLZKTHX!
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wey, who say pugna sux. he can own le. Wake up. *PIAK PIAK*
medusa ... not only chain can kill. I rather get purge to kill. for those hero who like to come inside and nuke/hit, purge him and see how he run.
While he/she is running, hit em. This is how i use chen.
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post May 22 2005, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ May 21 2005, 06:51 PM)
that sandking is a piece of shit. Only SK n00b takes travel boots.
that is made by a n00b using greedisgood. Useless kid.
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dude, there is absolutely nothing wrong with sk taking boots of travel. boots of travel only does not work when the sk learns dust trail. if you don't learn dust trail, the boots will work perfectly fine and as you can see from the screenshot, there's no "dust trail" icon on the status.
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post May 22 2005, 04:23 PM

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aiks, i've been using razor a couple of times...and found it impossible to get sacred relic by lvl 6 :S
the earliest i got it was lvl 11, which i think was pretty good considering i had about 1k worth of other stuff
who wants to prove that it is possible to get sacred relic by lvl 6 show me a replay!!!!!!

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post May 22 2005, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 22 2005, 02:13 AM)
dont worry man...
i get MoM ---> threads ---> bkb --->crystalys--->reaver
i dont even need to gb to win - gimme either regen haste dd powerups to win can liaox... but there will be time where i bs to let teams get the kills.
no worries about money too - im very confident on my farming skills and i can farm neutral creeps starting lv 8.money will NEVER be a problem to me
yea i have to admit, medusa's hella good farmer, but if she gets restricted from farming at early, she cant do much either... low initial dmg(almost like razor's) made her suck(at early rounds) - only can kill/ks with chain at early rounds.
and never in my life i have been pwned by pugna - i juz hate using him where you cant kill when the kill is critical to survival/turnaround...zzzzzz
everyone, HATE PUGNA PLZKTHX!
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yeah, make sure ur teamate always watch on hero, count them..... if one or more missing, make sure u are caution, you know it's not a big map.. generally you know where are them if they have been dissapearing for the time.....

GB is part of the game.... so it's ok the use it.. just ppl who get killed freel freaky... Medusa is extremely weak at the begining.. so make sure ppl who play must really know what to do..... extremely careful.... if vs tinker + swen then sure big problem obviously....

QUOTE(YuuYuu @ May 22 2005, 05:23 PM)
aiks, i've been using razor a couple of times...and found it impossible to get sacred relic by lvl 6 :S
the earliest i got it was lvl 11, which i think was pretty good considering i had about 1k worth of other stuff
who wants to prove that it is possible to get sacred relic by lvl 6 show me a replay!!!!!!
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I think that's possible.... you kill creep, you gain lv and money, you kill hero, you gain moeny and more level..... so impossible so much money @ lv 6..... unless whole game ppl pumping you? sell all their boots?
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post May 22 2005, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ May 22 2005, 05:36 PM)
yeah, make sure ur teamate always watch on hero, count them..... if one or more missing, make sure u are caution, you know it's not a big map.. generally you know where are them if they have been dissapearing for the time.....

GB is part of the game.... so it's ok the use it.. just ppl who get killed freel freaky... Medusa is extremely weak at the begining.. so make sure ppl who play must really know what to do..... extremely careful.... if vs tinker + swen then sure big problem obviously....
I think that's possible.... you kill creep, you gain lv and money, you kill hero, you gain moeny and more level..... so impossible so much money @ lv 6..... unless whole game ppl pumping you? sell all their boots?
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man, frankly, if i ever HAVE a teammate like you, we're gonna be good and owning.....
seriously, im fed up of telling ppl which heroes missing, and when i dint tell and they got killed, the whole team got f***ing blamed.... zzzzzz
minimap's not THAT big ok? switch team colour la..... zzzzzz mad.gif
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QUOTE(viNcee @ May 22 2005, 04:00 PM)
dude, there is absolutely nothing wrong with sk taking boots of travel. boots of travel only does not work when the sk learns dust trail. if you don't learn dust trail, the boots will work perfectly fine and as you can see from the screenshot, there's no "dust trail" icon on the status.
ooo i prefer dust trail over boots of travel.
But then in 6.08 there aint any dust trail no more.
Changed to ... duno what ... killed a monster and the died monster will do splash damage. doh.gif

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ May 22 2005, 05:36 PM)
I think that's possible.... you kill creep, you gain lv and money, you kill hero, you gain moeny and more level..... so impossible so much money @ lv 6..... unless whole game ppl pumping you? sell all their boots?
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so its possible or impossible ? u said thats possible in the first sentance, then say impossible to get so much money at level 6 doh.gif
playing with n00bs i suppose ?

QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 22 2005, 11:42 PM)
man, frankly, if i ever HAVE a teammate like you, we're gonna be good and owning.....
seriously, im fed up of telling ppl which heroes missing, and when i dint tell and they got killed, the whole team got f***ing blamed.... zzzzzz
minimap's not THAT big ok? switch team colour la..... zzzzzz mad.gif
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Dont even tell when you know the hero's moving to their side ?
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haha sankikun w--t w--t!!
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post May 23 2005, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 23 2005, 12:42 AM)
man, frankly, if i ever HAVE a teammate like you, we're gonna be good and owning.....
seriously, im fed up of telling ppl which heroes missing, and when i dint tell and they got killed, the whole team got f***ing blamed.... zzzzzz
minimap's not THAT big ok? switch team colour la..... zzzzzz mad.gif
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Hmm, i know how to talk only.... my mouth so big thumbup.gif thumbup.gif ,
anyway you can play with me with id Sky.Live at uswest lordaeron or Sky2Live in Blueserver

I seldom(very) play in blueserver

QUOTE(SeeD @ May 23 2005, 01:36 AM)

so its possible or impossible ? u said thats possible in the first sentance, then say impossible to get so much money at level 6 doh.gif
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sorry sorry, typing error sweat.gif sweat.gif
it's impossible


DOta is so wonderful, i just got owned by my alevel physics paper...........
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post May 23 2005, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ May 23 2005, 12:36 AM)
ooo i prefer dust trail over boots of travel.
But then in 6.08 there aint any dust trail no more.
Changed to ... duno what ... killed a monster and the died monster will do splash damage. doh.gif
so its possible or impossible ? u said thats possible in the first sentance, then say impossible to get so much money at level 6 doh.gif
playing with n00bs i suppose ?
Dont even tell when you know the hero's moving to their side ?
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that one is called 'Caustic Finale' - 1-hit splash dmg upon death of creep/heroes, a very good farming tool thumbup.gif
hmmm....
someday YuuYuu.... i will play razor and save the replays juz for you.....
see when i got luck with -ar or -random tongue.gif
i really hate to tell when their heroes' missing... would rather concentrate on farming than actually spotting for missing heroes
(prolly played too much clanmatches - we clanners dont talk much to each other in keyboard)


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DOta is so wonderful, i just got owned by my alevel physics paper...........


ghahahaha.....
WONDERFUL...... laugh.gif


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post May 23 2005, 07:07 PM

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Erm actually I don't see the minimap a lot also one sweat.gif Depedent on my teammate to tell me when heroes missing tongue.gif Lazy I am......
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yukito....
SWEAT~!!
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post May 23 2005, 11:28 PM

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most of the time i'll be the one keeping an eye on the mini map and alerting my friends when an enemy colour goes missing.

i'm too lazy to type so most of the time i either shout (we play in cc) or i just do that signal thingy on the map (which unfortunately nobody pays attention to most of the time doh.gif)
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post May 24 2005, 12:42 AM

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yala, that's called pinging the minimap
that's quite unreliable cause very easy to misping, like when farming, you'll be holding alt, and might accidentally left click
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no la..... tht's y dun misclick..... i nv tried pressing alt when farming beforce... unless fighting with Phantom Assasin... if really misclick just said sorry..

Sometimes i dont like to play at cc becoz some people they tend to tease people when they have kill some hero..... and LCLY there... haii

ended up we win by kamikaze, kill their tower by suciding ur self... their face all so red.. say many @_%@_%!)*@ things..

somemore cc always people shout like sweat.gif ,i know wht i mean

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A good hero is axe. His attack speed is so crazy late game that if u have battle fury and another damaging item all u do is do berserkers call and u get lots of gold, thanks to counter helix.
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If i want crazy attack speed, terrorblade would be more than sufficent than axe as due to life drain he's early game is better than axe. due to image, his mid game and late game is much stronger than axe
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well, it depends. imagine ur axe with bkb. u start htting him he drains. then u use zerkercall and he has to attack u. after 2 seconds activate bkb and pwn his a$$ cause he cant sunder. But he is good, depends on person playing and item build
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ May 24 2005, 08:38 AM)
no la..... tht's y dun misclick..... i nv tried pressing alt when farming beforce...  unless fighting with Phantom Assasin... if really misclick just said sorry..

Sometimes i dont like to play at cc becoz some people they tend to tease people when they have kill some hero..... and LCLY there... haii

ended up we win by kamikaze, kill their tower by suciding ur self... their face all so red.. say many @_%@_%!)*@ things..

somemore cc always people shout like sweat.gif ,i know wht i mean
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about the shouting part..... i DO that sweat.gif
1 time i was wearing my headphones, and i failed to kill a hero and i shouted 'f***'..... even my 2 friends beside me was laughing laugh.gif
yesterday even worse - 3-4pm went to cc play inside a room, we finished the whole game in less than 20 minutes - playing all the imba combos and f***ed up strats hahahx!
really laffing till the ppl in the other rooms oso looking at us laugh.gif
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well, it depends. imagine ur axe with bkb. u start htting him he drains. then u use zerkercall and he has to attack u. after 2 seconds activate bkb and pwn his a$$ cause he cant sunder. But he is good, depends on person playing and item build

Not really, I can't imagine at mid or late game how axe can win terrorblade with images. Image makes all the difference. Sunder is only for just in case, its not a must. I have killed many heroes with terrorblade without sunder. By the time axe got bkb, terrorblade would have diffusal blade

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