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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.

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post Jul 16 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 16 2010, 04:51 PM)
cfm = cubic feet per minute..
so if the value bigger the bigger can flow..
came from
air speed x area

bigger RPM (rotation per minute) is not necessary has big CFM..
it's depends on fan design (blade etc)..

that's why some high end fan will rotate a little bit slow.. and no much noise but better air flow..

don't confuse with both of them..
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that's why we have noctua fan which doesn't look so gud to d eyes, have weird blades + lower rpm havin a big price tag. it's all about design... smile.gif

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QUOTE(louislkw @ Jul 17 2010, 10:58 AM)
Yes Sir, 1T definately faster than 2T but not to a much significant level.

It's GSkill Flare PC16000 with timing 7-9-7-24-2N as posted by Sir Khoo.
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see u later sir, i'm still burnin d team sticks... can't get 'em burnt coz no matter how hard i try, they still look d way they are... tongue.gif

after 269 rounds of test 5 in memtest (dos), my fren sees some silver lining... laugh.gif


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finally 1 hour done... smile.gif

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gskill flare in action... my fren's chip is a let down but d volt looks really gud... thumbup.gif

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sir louislkw, can u do me a favor, pls throw that pair of team dark into dustbin as my fren dont need it liao coz he's keepin ya flare sticks... unsure.gif tongue.gif

GSKILL Flare ftw... thumbup.gif

p/s: these sticks really works well w/ higher divider, i'm lovin it... wub.gif

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QUOTE(louislkw @ Jul 17 2010, 10:23 PM)
Sir Khoo, yours seem like doing not bad ya..  biggrin.gif

Still playing with it..
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sir, i think my fren is hittin d wall soon, there's nothing much he can do w/ a propus... mebe u can consider loanin him ya x6 too... tongue.gif

joke aside, never in my wildest dream would i expect a propus can drive a pair of ram this far... d flare sticks are really something... notworthy.gif

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p/s: are d team dark sticks doin ok on CHIV? do keep me posted too so that i can update my fren... wink.gif

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QUOTE(louislkw @ Jul 18 2010, 12:14 AM)
Sir Khoo, team dark doing good...

6-7-7 max out at 776mhz

7-7-7 at 800mhz

1000 mhz coming soon... rclxms.gif
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gud job sir... I'm longin for 7-8-7 @ 1k... dun worry bout d volt, just whack. u got d permission to kill these sticks... i want d newer version which is runnin on 1.6v... brows.gif tongue.gif

d gskill fan is sittin on my fren's pc table, he asked me to tell u dun worry bout ya ram, he will do d ram proud by settin 'em on fire, that way they meant to be else why gskill call 'em flare, rite? laugh.gif

is that u & ya meimei in macau? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Jul 18 2010, 12:34 AM)
wah, what a friend you have there. can hantam saja laugh.gif
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QUOTE(louislkw @ Jul 18 2010, 12:59 AM)
7-8-7 at 1k!! Not possible Sir. Definately will kill it or degrade it in air.

Ya, taken in macau. Lol. Spotted.

Set it on fire, remember to take a picture of it. I wanna see it.  biggrin.gif

edit: Sir, your dark charco dun like high volt, alway dump me.. Disappointed you, no luck in 1k. Its binned to intel.
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lol.. i was just pullin ya legs sir, it's too much to ask for from a pair of mid range ram, if they can do 9-9-9 @ 1k on amd i'll be dead happy ledi. smile.gif

anyway, this is my fren's last attempt, i believe he had gave his best... there's limit for d hardwares he has & i consider this as a good result, far from great thou... again credits to ya generosity, he just passed me ya flare sticks so that i can return 'em to u 2ml... anytime from 9am-6pm @ smrset mrt (or singtel comcentre) sounds ok to u sir? smile.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 19 2010, 02:26 AM)
Hahahaha, pass it to me 1st lah, let me play2 with it also :/lol: :/P
So jeles everbodi is playing with new ram's  :/cry:  :/cry:  :/P
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u wouldn't want it bro, coz it's hard when it's time to part w/ d ram... x sampai hati nak return but if i'm keepin it means i gotta go to jail in case sir louislkw report polis. sweat.gif tongue.gif

joke aside, it's time for u to equip yaself w/ a decent pair of ram... kvr is gud but pairin w/ *tut is like havin a honda civic w/ proton saga stock rim... blink.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 19 2010, 10:29 AM)
yeah..that tut is good to pair with dom GT... or tracer red.. kekeke..

i dont have much time to play like u all.. and also no hw as good as u all also..but ah khoo, can rate G-skill eco? since u always read here and there, sure u know abit.. i wonder how it will perform with 1.6vdimm (since the lowest my mobo able to set)
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regor especially real x2 has decent imc imo, u can clock nb freq & ram quite well w/ it bro, don't be disheartened. u'll find joy tweakin it as long as u dont give up/get bored. had some fun tweakin d gud old am2 platform now as i dun have decent hw like bro cloudwan & sir louislkw. sad.gif nod.gif

can't really rate as i never play w/ gskill eco, bro 8tvt played w/ it b4 so he would be in better position to comment. 7-8-7@1600 sounds like powerchips to me. they don't like high volts like elpida from what i heard. i'd say these 2 usually reach their max freq (for 24/7) @ x-(x+1 or 2)-x around 1.6~1.75v. don't think gskill is kind enuf to put bbse for value sticks, but in case they're really use bbse, consider yaself lucky then. wink.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 19 2010, 10:38 AM)
Hahahahaha, what to do money already invested in other things, soooo that tut have to do with lowly KVR lah :/x :/x :/lol:
I guess have to wait for that special moment like last time when i got my 1st ever High Performance ram's, oh my ballistix  :/wub:  :/wub:  :/P
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kad plastik... kad plastik... whistling.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 19 2010, 11:21 AM)
got eh bbse on eco? i tot eco quite cheap ram.. and bbse on premium ram one..

still if regor have quite a strong imc, the mobo still holding me back.. just imagine 158Xmhz cl7 stable..but 1600mhz is absolutely not stable ( i able to prime 8mins last time, now boot also cant) even with cl9..

tried with cl6..disappointing, cant even get 1300mhz, 127Xmhz max... after all that is value ram.. thats y considering other ram..
WTB 1week team elite anyone?kekeke
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ya elite 1333 could be on elpida -6-e (iirc), was very new to ddr3 that time that's why managed a 1466 @ 7-7-7 only. on intel 1600 is not a problem if i'm not mistaken. hmm.gif

elite 1600 could be on powerchips too coz i saw very gud clocks on these sticks in vr-z... but it could be d case like kvr lucky draw, sometimes u get decent one while sometimes not... if u want guaranteed result, go for team dark lv, not only team dark coz team dark 1600 cas 8 (non lv) oso sucks... sweat.gif

can u post d cpu teaker ss as well? if i can't help (which i doubt i can), i'm retty sure others can... nod.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 19 2010, 11:32 AM)
What decent hware bro? Makin downgrade adalah: sweat.gif
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Kad plastik nak kena potong kalu x smpi tua x abis bayar  sweat.gif laugh.gif
propus/deneb core bro? it's fun oso playin w/ locked chip coz it's more challengin (imo). where's d be chip? on d way to sg ledi? drool.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 19 2010, 11:45 AM)
later since now at workplace... aod ss can unker? since i really hate play with cpu tweaker.. last time my ehem2 edition of win7 always change to basic color scheme once open cpu-tweaker..so i always use AOD for advance timing tweaking..

u sure knowledgeable eh unker.. all ram know what chip.. i seldom read now..since quite bz + no internet at home.. so ketingalan zaman abit..
now always heard elpida and micron only.. qimonda not perform well ka? kekeke since i saw on winova value ram.. kekeke...
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sure, just need sometimes to digest, it's been a while since i last use aod coz 690g doesn't support acc. tongue.gif

meh, it's not about knowledgeable or not, just that i got d chance to play w/ other ppl's hw only... i'm still a proud am2 owner.... flex.gif

u can refer HERE for d "koleksi" i've tested, most on 7xx platform. more (on thuban) here http://forums.vr-zone.com/overclockers-hid...tml#post8164466

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 19 2010, 12:39 PM)
Still not sure if its propus or deneb bro, haven't plug in yet, looks like propus C2..
U want the BE ka? If i throw from here can reach ur place ka? laugh.gif
sure can reach one, one to one exchange w/ my sempron? tongue.gif

I want d c32 but pay by ansuran like singer products can ah? me dead broke now, sampai lunch pun kene skip pasal no moolah... sad.gif cry.gif icon_question.gif


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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 20 2010, 10:30 AM)
Hahahaha, tut is what they call my mobo :/lol: Donno why tho  :/w
it's special edition, that's why we are bothered bro... laugh.gif

QUOTE(louislkw @ Jul 20 2010, 10:37 AM)
Sir, its not a problem to do 9-9-9 1T on amd in 1k. Just dont have enough time to tighten it. Hehe.

The 1090T going strong, stable at 16x250 for 6 hours prime test. Not my target yet. Later tonight need to break the 4.2ghz wall since the temperature still below 60 degC.
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yup, true enuf, ram tweakin is always time consumin sir... my fren is havin hardtime to make his dark charcoal to match ya flare sticks... he'll do what ever it takes to hit 1840... even gettin d sticks burnt... tongue.gif

woot... i'm pretty sure d BE chip can break 4.2GHz barrier... keep it up... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2010, 10:48 AM)
tarik balik...not yet to sell..have to change mobo 1st to unleash the ram true performance..kekekeke..
870 giga or asrock? tight budget..only can settle for less then 400...

unker..here u go..
1600mhz passed tho..but with hell of vdimm and loose timing..
need to increase 0.8vdimm for few mhz..  :/sweat:  :/sweat:

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both same setting..just another 1 is with AOD open..
hmm... aod indeed is hard to read, i'll digest it tonite & let u know...

close call between ahsos 880 & giga 870 this time... i will take either one but ram mileage is really impressive for d former. not surprsin thou coz ram tweakin has always been d strong point of ahsos high end board, they're kind enuf this time to implement d same on el cheapo board like d 880 evo. yup, gotta hate d undervolt/overvolt issue but nothing's perfect especially if u consider d price... nod.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 20 2010, 11:02 AM)
Why go for 870 giga or asrock bro? Go for Ahsos M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 lah, only RM365 at viewnet last time i bought.. :/thumbs:
It has 2 PCIE that can run 8x/8x IIANM  :/drool: Plus it comes preinstall with pwmsinks so u won't have to look for it later..  :/hehe:
bro, nampaknyer u dah jadik traitor gaygay... tongue.gif

but i gotta agree, ahsos has an advantage this time round... 880 cf @ 16x/4x only thou... only 890 cf @ 8x/8x...

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2010, 11:09 AM)
before yesterday i tot i was done playing with my modules..but unker's word yesterday triggerd me.. so i active cooled these rams and push further.. carik2 dlm laci ade lebih2 yate loon 80mm..kekeke..

nape? nk beli betul ke?kekeke..
too many ahsus evo user here and all bising2 about the vdroop.. iinm 870 giga also able to CF right? but now priority goes to ram oc only.. ( cpu not im mood to OC.. know the limit edi + using stock cooler only now   :/sweat:  :/sweat: )..
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i believe both are in d same league, but since ur lookin more into ram oc, imo ahsos is slightly better... wink.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 20 2010, 11:16 AM)
I think most mobo has vdroop issue, with asos u turn on the load calibration it should help with the vdroop issue.. 870 giga cannot CF lah, coz limited PCIE lanes.. u running 16x/4x nanti :/x
If ur not gonna CF and u don't mind the naked pwm bro, by all means go for the giga, it has all the features of the SB850 plus more..
I don't like the asrock coz less supot here plus it doesn't supot USB3.0 for the future :/x :/x
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gaygay didn't officially mention cf is supported on their 870, but i think shouldn't be a problem if users ready to give up other pci-e ports which share d same bandwidth as d 4x pci-e port for 2nd gfx. cry.gif

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gskill flare wannabe... tongue.gif


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@ kunta:

try to play around with:

1. write to read delay
2. write to write delay
3. command rate @ 2t

not sure this gonna help but my fren tried it (1&2) on his team dark & it works. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 21 2010, 11:10 AM)
the CR is always 2t if i want it stable with 1600mhz.. 1t need to add another notch of vdimm.. so i settle with 2t anyway..
those 2 delays i loosened edi.. from 3 (with divider 1333 / 1066) to 4.. if using 1600 divider, auto already at 4 so i dont bother loosen it some more.. since i notice it affect the read and write on everest quite alot... i dont want just high speed but ultra loose timing..

how about the R-to-W dqs cont? i loosen i gain extra speed according to everest..donno the reading true or not..
auto normally at 5 or 4..i loosen to 6 or 8..
anyway ill try posting the cpu tweaker SS tomorow..todays not bring any SS to workplace..so cant post..slightly improve the timing with 1600 divider..

is there any other software to run benchmark on ram only? (and ofkos IMC included but not CPU, or atleast have separate result of ram and cpu just like everest )

Added on July 21, 2010, 11:16 am
that software pelik...
1st time open, hide in systray..need to right click >show baru keluar
2nd time and so on  i need to open the software 2 times.. and  right click >show baru keluar..
kalau x, sorok2 lg die..kekekek..

so all recommend me ahsos eh for the ram tweak.. will do some homework after this.. once get paid, straight away buy new mobo..

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waaa... ur pro coz i never tried w/ benchies when i'm pushin ram. me = mat rempit, you = valentino rossi. can't really answer d dqs thingy coz i'm still bz pushin d team dark oem d9gmh, die die oso must match d flare sticks by sir Louis... tongue.gif

u can use sandra memory benchmark too... nod.gif

ahsos did a gud job on 88td-v evo this time, credits to 'em but boo to distro in sg ... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 21 2010, 12:02 PM)
ok..since u said evo wins in mem tweaking, ill take it.. hope can get it with this upcoming salary.. if not..need to wait another month la..

dont be too humble bro.. im too noob in ram OC..so need ur guidance..kekeke
i want to reach 1600mhz need to sacrifice alot of timing.. if loosen the main timing, xlawa.. if alter the sub timing, no one knows if no AOD/cpu tweaker included laugh.gif
that is why need to see which faster..

and isnt d9gmh is ddr2 64mb/chip ramchip? or im getting older..kekeke
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i think evo has an edge coz so far i haven't see much decent freq done on gaygay 870 boards, could be better under d hands of pro but sadly no pro (in forums that i visit frequently) review that board yet. from what i feel, pushin ram on ahsos 880 is as effortless as biobintang 790gx a3+. ofcoz it's harder towards d wall but for mild~mid freq, it's really a breeze... nod.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 21 2010, 12:14 PM)
Nih nak cari pasal ah nih, ada pejabat ngan umah kena simbah cat merah nih  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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yalor hor, i only realize now i oso involved... damn!!! let pour cat merah @ his house, office, bike or even car... vmad.gif mad.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 21 2010, 12:49 PM)
jgn mara..wa men2 je..kekke.. once i get paid, will transfer to u in no time  flex.gif  flex.gif
ya..miss that biostar.. regret i let it go for such a cheap price.. buyer offer 300 i dont want..i want only 270..kekekke..

eh..excuse me sir, how come u involved with this matter? i dont recall in debt with u..kekekeke..hutang budi got la..kekeke..

giga 770ud3p anyone?kekekek
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biostar oh biostar... i wish i have d chance to try d 890fxe... anyone willin to sponsor me one? sad.gif

lol... i thought some other thing... nevermind, misunderstandin but bro cloudwan is my evil twin gemini brother, so i gotta help him out a bit mah... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 21 2010, 02:07 PM)
What can we say we are united.. kakakaka tongue.gif
Got devil logo some more laugh.gif
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betol2... laugh.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 21 2010, 03:54 PM)
tighter timing..
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and this is the AOD..
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doubt can push even more..need change mobo 1st

whoaahh..finally, screamyx finish the installation edi.. after 2months of subscribing..
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try again w/ 1t & make it prime stable... wink.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 21 2010, 04:16 PM)
maxisbb untill last month and pnjam celcombb from kawan while working..kekeke
1month taken to survey my place.. and another 1 month for installation..few times came but fail.. so takes alot of time..  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

did tried.. fail within minutes.. and btw..my trfc seems differ aod and cmos..
cmos = 110ns , aod = 160ns
cmos =90ns , aod = 110ns..

dayum..later open cpu tweaker to confirm.. u have the same issue last time bro cloudwan?
that is last night SS..today not yet OC... kekeke..

edit: cpu tweaker shows same value as AOD.. dayum.. up till now i was clocking with loose trfc..
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110ns in real seems tight enuf for me, ram guru xixo once said, d tighter d better but higher volt needed. nod.gif

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