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TSmitodna
post Jun 25 2010, 11:13 PM, updated 14y ago

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Lets continue the discussion on Hard Disk here, good old V2 has reaches 2500 posts

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Check Drive Warranty
Samsung: http://www.samsunghddvalue.com/WebRMA/WarrantyCheck/
Seagate: http://support.seagate.com/customer/warran...tion.jsp?form=0
WD: http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/seriali...arranty〈=en

QUOTE(24 July 2010 price around shop @ Compu-zone, Jayacom, The Hub)
Samsung F3 1TB 184-195
Samsung EcoGreen 1.5TB 250
Samsung EcoGreen 2TB 360


Price Hike due to Thailand Flood 2010
QUOTE(20 Dec 2011 price around shop @ Compu-zone, Jayacom, The Hub)
WD Blue 500GB 255
Samsung F3 1TB 360
Samsung EcoGreen 2TB 460


Samsung F4 Model
2TB EcoGreen F4 --> HD204UI
1.5TB EcoGreen F4 --> HD155UI
320GB Spinpoint F4 --> HD322GJ

Samsung F3 Model
2TB EcoGreen F3 --> HD203WI
1.5TB EcoGreen F3 --> HD153WI
1TB EcoGreen F3 --> HD105SI

1TB Spinpoint F3 --> HD103SJ
750GB Spinpoint F3 --> HD754JJ
500GB Spinpoint F3 --> HD502HJ


QUOTE(fariz @ Jul 28 2010, 06:46 AM)
benchmark using this and post the score.

http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDi...rk/index-e.html
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QUOTE(fariz @ Sep 14 2010, 12:58 PM)
user posted image

SATA offers several advantages over the older parallel ATA (PATA) interface: reduced cable-bulk and cost (reduced from 80 wires to seven), faster and more efficient data transfer, and hot swapping.
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QUOTE(fariz @ Jul 14 2010, 11:03 AM)
put the OS on the F3, use WD as storage.


Added on July 14, 2010, 11:05 am
yes you can, you can get the imaging software from seagate

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/d...oads/discwizard
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 8 2010, 02:23 PM)
Speedfan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
HDDScan http://hddscan.com/
Speedfan allows comparing your SMART results to online database for more suggestive informations.
HDDScan, external hard disk cannot retrieve SMART? This software supports all, even monitor your external hard disk temperature, cool? Hell yeah~

These 2 software are the most that I used to retrieve the SMART info from my hard disk. Speedfan even allow you to compare your result to online database for more information.
If you feel performance drop, watch for "Relocated sectors count" or "Pending sectors count", these 2 by far is what make the hard disk slows down, even with fresh installed windows, it still slows down after few hours usage. So don't think SMART is not much of a use, it's a preventive warning to your precious data.

If possible TS please put these information on the first page, thanks  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Dec 18 2011, 02:54 PM)
The details of the new warranty periods are:-

Constellation 2 and ES.2 drives: 3 years
Barracuda and Barracuda Green 3.5-inch drives: 1 year
Barracuda XT: 3 years
Momentus 2.5-inch (5400 and 7200rpm): 1 year
Momentus XT: 3 years
SV35 Series - Video Surveillance: 2 years
Pipeline HD Mini, Pipeline HD: 2 years

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/16/se...ing_warranties/

dah lah mahal... warranty pulak kena potong
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For Western Digital, warranties for the Caviar Blue, Caviar Green and Scorpio Blue hard drives will be reduced to two years from three years.

Seagate’s new warranty policies will become effective on Dec. 31, and Western Digital’s changes will begin Jan. 2, 2012. Hard drives bought before those dates will retain their original warranty policies.

Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/s...orage-warranty/
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Samsung HDD division sold to Seagate
Hitachi GST sold to WD

Now just left Seagate, WD and Toshiba
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post Jun 25 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(StereophileDream @ Jun 25 2010, 11:21 PM)
Hello,if the Samsung F3 is out of stock when I go to LYP next week,what must I do?Wait for the newer version(is there any?)to release or move to other brand?Since the Samsung is quite value for money if wanna use for downloading and storing data.
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Which model are you looking? 1TB or 1.5TB/2TB EcoGreen series?

Try Compu-zone.com (Czone)
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post Jun 27 2010, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(selferino @ Jun 26 2010, 09:41 PM)
does the buffer size of a hard disk really important per say does it significantly impact performance?


Added on June 26, 2010, 9:42 pmlike 16mb vs 32 mb vs 64mb(only seen tis on the WD hard disk)
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Not much different in general.
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post Jun 27 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(selferino @ Jun 27 2010, 03:13 AM)
in generel? thn in wut usually?
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general performance lo, you won't see any much different unless benchmarking,
OS drive, get 7200rpm drive, storage, you can get those Green series drive

generally there isn't any 7200rpm drive for more than 1TB that is non expensive.

WD Blue 500gb (7200rpm) comes with 16mb
WD Green 1tb (5400rpm) comes with 64mb for Advanced Format Drive
WD Black 1tb (7200rpm) also comes with 64mb for Advanced Format Drive


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post Jun 29 2010, 06:07 PM

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how much is 1TB and 2TB now? I saw Viewnet listing RM194 for 1TB.
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post Jun 29 2010, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 29 2010, 08:08 PM)
around that price..
2tb average rm380.. i got rm370..
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nice price drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif , care to intro the shop? Many thanks
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post Jun 29 2010, 10:50 PM

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http://gizmodo.com/5575111/the-worlds-firs...ve-from-seagate

The World's First 3TB External Hard Drive, From Seagate for 250usd, around 812myr, for USB2.0
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Fjive @ Jun 30 2010, 02:06 AM)
Thx for the suggestion...owners of WD Elements...care to give some feedback?
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Using 1tb Wd elements, so far so good, it does not comes with any backup software. Simple design.
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Just saw FreeAgent® GoFlex™ Upgrade Cable — FireWire® 800 for RM159 at the hub today, I could be wrong on the price though
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post Jul 3 2010, 12:08 PM

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WD Blue 2.5" 500gb seems is a bargain right now, around RM175.
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Not yet has a Seagate external hard disk that failed. Had to agree that WD 2.5" external is cute. Also WD AV is the only certified for Byond PVR. I still choose Seagate FreeAgent Go extra 2 years is handy.
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Your Seagate 500gb got jumper or not? If yes, it might be limited to by that jumper.

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post Jul 10 2010, 03:10 PM

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Saw Hitachi internal drive 2.5" with casing 500gb at RM179.
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in Thunder Match, whether they still have stock is another question
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Samsung EcoGreen 1.5TB at RM255, 2TB at RM360 at compu-zone.com
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 16 2010, 12:45 PM)
Yeap.
But only the EcoGreen ones, the spinpoint series has now stabilized in prices and will stay that way for a few more weeks.

By end of August, you'll see 1.5TB at the RM220 range.
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Would be interesting to see how does the 2TB will be priced.
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post Jul 20 2010, 09:30 AM

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anyone here building their own NAS?
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QUOTE(Traveler @ Jul 20 2010, 11:25 AM)
Very true. I have already filled up >10TB of space with my DVD and BD rips, and I have only done about half of my video collection. Haven't even started on my CD collection yet (plan to rip/encode to FLAC and MP3).
I have one running 5x2TB WD Green (in SPAN mode) and 2x1TB WD Green (in SPAN mode) off a E7400 + Asus P5N7A-VM, running Vista HP (32-bit) since I have a spare licence. This rig serves as my backup server. I use SPAN mode to create a large block of HD space without redundancy, as this will act as backup storage only (the main storage will be in a RAID-5 array).

I will soon be replacing the CPU/mobo with an unused Q8200 + Gigabyte EP45-UD3P since I plan on using the E7400 plus the mATX P5N7A-VM to build a NAS into my unused SG-01 casing (plan on 5x2TB HDs, 2 in the internal drive bays, 3 in a IcyDock 3-in-2 removable drive cage in the external drive bays). I have started to look around at FreeNAS to run this NAS, and the possibility of using a CF-to-IDE adapter to boot the OS off a CF card via the IDE port. This NAS would be headless and kept in my store-room next to my main home switch.

My main server should be completed by this week, as I just need to pickup a good HSF (thinking of TR's Venomous-X) and a cheap GPU (Radeon 5450 possibly) to power 2 monitors. I will be running 2x2TB WD Black (OS + fast HD for video ripping/encoding), and 8x2TB WD Green in RAID-5 off an Areca RAID controller. I know of the possible TLER issues with the Greens, but the RE4s cost twice as much, and at current prices, the additional cost is RM3.2K. So I am hoping that since I also have a full backup in my other rig and I hope I can change the timeout settings on the Areca controller, things should be ok. CPU is a i7-870 with Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P mobo and 8GB of Kingston VR. I've mounted 2 units of IcyDock's 5-in-3 removable HD cage in my CM Stacker casing, and plan to add a 3-in-2 cage as well for another 3 HDs. So in theory, I should have 14TB of RAID-5 storage now, with another 4TB (less what the OS takes up) of fast storage (off the WD Blacks) to speed up my rips/encodes.  Potentially another 6TB of storage once I get myself down to Singapore to get my IcyDock drive cage. The OS will be Win7 HP (64-bit) at present, though I will consider using Windows Home Server v2 when it is finally launched.

I will also use my new server to test the CF-to-IDE adapter (using 2x16GB Kingston 133x CF cards) for possible use on the NAS.
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One word. Wow. Notice, most of your drive is WD, did you get any Samsung? CF to IDE, would it be slow, would be interesting if you can share your journey on NAS. Again, wow.
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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jul 22 2010, 06:50 PM)
samsung rm200 each and wd rm390
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Hi, is 2TB at 390myr is 64MB version? Thanks.
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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Jul 22 2010, 08:19 PM)
yes bro go search for rockrock at memory & drivers page


Added on July 22, 2010, 8:20 pm

you discount rm5 for ppl and u call it already dropped below rm200?? because u see ppl selling rm200 so cheap so u want some business so u give rm5 discount. cheapstake eh
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195MYR already 1 to 2 week, I don't believe he is the seller, why you so piss off when people giving RM5 discount?

RM5 can buy you a meal already laugh.gif

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