Very familiar...I ever read paultan forte review & he was there, the flame damn hot ...haha

i am not salesman lar, my house has 4 hondas car. all i can say this time hyundai did very well for sonata. i guess ur wife CBU Kia is quite old model lar. Im talking about now. Dun apply old stuff to present. CBU really make diff to CKD. hope u have the chance to notice. Im not surprise u talking in this way as you are vios owner. Put your eye wider abit to mazda and other brand. No offense..

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Added on June 28, 2010, 6:25 pmThis is what im thinking. No matter how all new civic will be around RM 130k-135k. And i pretty sure civic wont come with sunroof, rear aircon vent as sonata.
So which 1 to choose Civic 2.0 or Sonata 2.0 high spec.

This post has been edited by Travies: Jun 28 2010, 06:25 PM

wat if in future..hyundai and kia quality better thn honda and toyota...honda and toyota start giving cheap cheap thing...and korea car gud quality thing....dun simply flame korean car laa...sorry for my poorest england..

civic is only C segment while sonata D segment.
sit inside sonata u'll feel the luxury while inside civic,no,different feeling.
Both at the same price,which will choose?
Price is a factor no doubt.

I been wondering when you will jump out to bash the korean car....and tada.......u r here.....

wonder y u are not tired writing the same thing all over the net........is it really so fun to bash others???

sorry but i felt like vomit seeing the same thing u post over and over and over again......

yes korean car will spoilt in months and toyota can last 10000 years......so we understand that, no need to repeat again... thanks a million.......

I booked and has paid RM2K for deposit during Feb.2010 and has make my cancellation due to the below reasons :

1) The curve line at side look so nice at the first place, after some times it look bored.
2) Resale Value.
3) The front grille look so similar to the clown smiley face.

pic or it never happened..
dont u think ur reason are abit lame? try troll harder pls

from the reason u stated i think u downgrading to lower end car or u are too rich to buy Merc or Volkwagen or either u think book and cancellation is so fun. Real car just launched few days but u mentioned u see it some times it looks bored. I wonder how many hours have u spent to look at it in the showroom.

This post has been edited by Travies: Jun 28 2010, 08:23 PM

1. that ur personel favors
2. if you really care so much about resale value.......u shouldnt even book it at the 1st place!!!!
3. again, that ur personel favors, i said ferrari look like stupid shark and i dun like it...still ppl out there will want ferrari!!!

I saw the car ( with left hand drive ) at Glenmarie long ago...

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Added on June 28, 2010, 8:29 pmDid you booked the car already ?

This post has been edited by woengx2: Jun 28 2010, 08:29 PM

nope, i am happy with my forte now.

how bout u? going for wat car since u cancel ur sonata booking...? with this kind of price range, u have quite a choices to make......

I'll shall go for K5 if it priced at ±120k

what model is that K5. sorry my nub question, too technical for me lolz

K5 is the codename for the upcoming latest Kia Optima

Now all of us knew why did u cancel your sonata booking. Price is the factor

Yes, I would said it is the most important factor after all!

Bro...keep saying Korean car is bad & how reliable Toyotas are is not gonna get us anywhere. There is not comparison here.

The Korean car u talking bout is d old generation. Since the 2008...the Korean had been agressive in term of new product line incl. new designs, engines & tech. So, it's a new thing. It's a turning point for the Korean. The fact tht they are doing well in many part of the world with their new line of products proof tht acceptance is there.

Toyotas on the other hand, had been using the tried & tested engines. So realiability is high...the new Vios still share the same engine like ur Vios. Toyotas also have a wonderful re-sale value.

Service wise...I'm not sure how good Toyota is...but I KIA have a decent service. It's about 3 hours...just like the avg Toyota service(s) (Fren quoted)

Potential buyer...do test drive & checkout the car before buying. If you can let go the branding & the re-sale value....Korean do prove a strong contender. But if u wan a good re-sale value car...only the Hondas & Toyotas give you that.

Parts price about the same. Korean reliability is still unknown as they hv new engines & tech. However, their Theta II engines is the same engine tht is currently used in Mitsu Lancer GT 2.0 (if this gv u some peace of mind)

I'm a KIA Forte owner...& yes...I spend some longtime before deciding on KIA over the Honda / Toyotas. I'm gonna drive it around 7 years...so re-sale value is not a big concern. Reliability....only time will tell.

But I'm willing to gv it a shot. I love the car as it is a segment higher, newer & engine, better tech & etc.

If the Forte ended up like the previous Spectra....well.....I think I will be like bro cyber (nah)....I still enjoy the ride.

I fit doesn't & proof to be a good car....well...I make the right choice !

3 years later we can talk again. But bro cyber....u really nid to re-visit these Kimchi gal. They improve.

Now things like Naza & salesman is another viewing angle. Cheers.

Let the bashers bash and the winners win.

Only time can tell. Let's just wait and see (I m Forte owner btw).

Anyway, i beg to differ when you say toyota and honda salesman are good. Maybe you're rich or something.

I've walked into Toyota showroom twice in Subang. No one entertain me. Maybe coz i was driving my old wira. I have to 'ask' for salesman to serve me.

I've walked into Honda showroom 3 times. Test drove city once and civic twice. Hmm, 'service'?? Nah...

If you talk about lazy, Honda and Toyota salesmen are lazy, they are the one waiting for the 'preys' to come to themselves. They are so 'cocky' in the sense that they never worry about customer that it makes them lazy. The way they served me proves everything.

Whereas salesman from Mazda and Nasim when i test drove Mazda 3, 308 and 407 always call me up. Letting me know about latest promotions but were never pushy.

Well, maybe i m just a poor worn out wira owner...

i cant wait korean car can win japan car gg

I remember this guy (cybermaster98) from Paul Tan korean cars site and now here which is also a korean car forum. This guy doesn't seem to like Korean cars, but often visit Korean cars dicussion forum and keep putting the same comments over and over again here and there.
He always talk about his 7 years old Vios in the forum that make me believe that his standard is only up to Vios level only.
He seemed to be very unbalance and unsteady over korean cars.
BTW, cybermaster, do you like korean BBQ or sushi? Just curious!

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Added on June 29, 2010, 2:02 amBTW, I think this Sonata is a well build car, the quality is actually on par with the Accord and Camry.
However, this car will still not sell well with this current price unless it is price about RM120,000 (2.0 high spec) just like Kia Forte which has a much lower price over its rivals.
Previous korean cars have really left the very bad impression in the Malaysia car market.


This post has been edited by x5m5: Jun 29 2010, 02:02 AM