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post Jun 25 2010, 11:56 PM

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will go glenmarie to take a look tomorrow. i purposely from malacca go to kl to see this. there is no paddle shifter for all range right? damn the high spec 2.0 dun have HID. How is the warranty? what stock tyre they given, Kumho?
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post Jun 26 2010, 12:17 AM

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hankook tyres...esp is traction control no ? esp onli on 2.0 high spec and 2.4
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post Jun 26 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(MangO @ Jun 25 2010, 09:50 PM)
No traction control? But the spec list for 2.0 high spec has traction control. Only the basic on doesn't have it.
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ESP is different from Traction Control (normally known as TCS)
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post Jun 26 2010, 01:22 PM

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i was expecting more features and goodies thrown in with more competitive pricing, like KIA/Naza does, but i guess SD isn't that serious in bringing up the hyundai brand.

hopefully if Naza does bring in the KIA optima, it will do this platform more justice in our market.
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post Jun 26 2010, 06:10 PM

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SD is really not into the business really, unlike Kia. Pricing actually sucks & some features were taken out. Worst of all, the Glenmarie showrrom denied entry to all customer until 2pm today.
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post Jun 26 2010, 06:48 PM

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Look nice and big improvement..But don't know how is the cost of the spare part....
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QUOTE(chrymnd @ Jun 26 2010, 06:48 PM)
Look nice and big improvement..But don't know how is the cost of the spare part....
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The car is RM20K++ more than the last Sonata 2.0 spec & they recently jack up the price of new Tuscon. Not cheap, since SD having face money drainage for "some reason".
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post Jun 26 2010, 11:59 PM

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juz back from glenmarie today. test drove 2.0 model. power is abit lower than expected, its somehow like camry drive, lose to accord. Braking is abit down side also. BTW, it is not sporty driving style, u hardly feel the road feeling(maybe hankook tyre).

i was impress with the legroom, meter and sunroof of this sonata. in glenmarie showroom they are beuatifully decorated. i saw more than 10 showgal there excluding all the salesman. Thumbs up. Got plenty nice goodies after test drive. they serve coffee and cakes also. they have 5 units to test drive. Really well done hyundai. the price is reasonable as it is CBU Korea. dun compare with ckd units pls.
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post Jun 27 2010, 05:16 PM

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Well this sonata sure will sell better then the previous generation one but still won't affect much the T&H brand, since not even much peoples is care to reply on the this topic, hoho; if Accord/Camry launch new generation, the topic will be at least loaded with 10 to 20 pages reply now. . . biggrin.gif
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post Jun 27 2010, 06:40 PM

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The exterior is really nice.
Thumbs up to the designer even thou you may feel it resemble some other brands in certain areas.
the high spec 2.0 priced at 143K is far from my affordability. 50K difference with my present ride,2.0 Kia Forte...hehe


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post Jun 28 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 27 2010, 05:16 PM)
Well this sonata sure will sell better then the previous generation one but still won't affect much the T&H brand, since not even much peoples is care to reply on the this topic, hoho; if Accord/Camry launch new generation, the topic will be at least loaded with 10 to 20 pages reply now. . .  biggrin.gif
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sometimes, feel pityful to hyundai salesman. good product yet still no ppl support. same goes to mazda, peugeot and kia. btw, Forte is the best selling model for mid size sedan in singapore. Sonata is selling well in US and they are 4th largest automotive brand in US, honda stand no where and toyota still the 1st in US.
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post Jun 28 2010, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Jun 24 2010, 10:21 PM)
it is cheaper than accord n camry..
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Whats the use of being cheaper when its a Hyundai? For a Korean make to be competitive it must be at least 20K cheaper not just 9-11K. Whether u have better specs or not, for Malaysians what matter is the after sale service and resale value. Both of which makes the Korean makes a poor choice. The car itself it good but its the loacl dealers which are killing it. Im not a salesman but the Japanese are way ahead of the Koreans in terms of customer service. If uve owned both Toyota and a Korean make u will know the difference.
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post Jun 28 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Travies @ Jun 28 2010, 12:06 AM)
sometimes, feel pityful to hyundai salesman. good product yet still no ppl support. same goes to mazda, peugeot and kia. btw, Forte is the best selling model for mid size sedan in singapore. Sonata is selling well in US and they are 4th largest automotive brand in US, honda stand no where and toyota still the 1st in US.
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U pity the salesmen? Try walking into any Naza or Nasim showroom and see their attitude. They are so damn lazy and they'll just sit on their ass and wait for you to talk to them. This is their attitude and u wonder why the car doesnt sell? U try talking to a Toyota / Honda salesperson and u will see the difference immediately. Even now i know of Toyota salesmen who are willing to drive the Altis to your doorstep to allow u a test drive. U try walking into the Nasim showroom in TTDI,KL and ull see what i mean. Go check out the paultan forum and ull see all the other bad experiences ppl have had with these useless sales ppl.

If u ask me i say they deserve to get poor sales. They will not be able to survive in Toyota / Honda which is why they have been dumped in Hyundai, Kia & Peugeot.
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post Jun 28 2010, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 27 2010, 05:16 PM)
Well this sonata sure will sell better then the previous generation one but still won't affect much the T&H brand, since not even much peoples is care to reply on the this topic, hoho; if Accord/Camry launch new generation, the topic will be at least loaded with 10 to 20 pages reply now. . .  biggrin.gif
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biggrin.gif Not only that much but until V10 or even more than that
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post Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Travies @ Jun 26 2010, 11:59 PM)
Really well done hyundai. the price is reasonable as it is CBU Korea. dun compare with ckd units pls.
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If ure impressed with this CBU /CKD bullshit, u must either be a salesman or someone who doesnt have internet access. So wht if its a CBU? U mean to say that CBU units have lesser problems than a CKD? If this is so, then your thinking is surely old school. All this CBU bullshit is the type of salesman talk that the ppl at Naza and Nasim fill u with. But i tell u its no big difference. My wife has a 3yrd old Kia (CBU) and she was just told to change her shock absorbers. Even the Kia centre told her the shock absorbers are not designed to last more than 80-90K km. What kind of CBU is this? My old 7 yr Toyota Vios is still running strong with all original parts despite running for around 135K. She has also had endless problems with her dashboard rattling since Year 1. (mind you she is a careful driver).

So please spare me this crap about CBU and the relevence to pricing. This Sonata will not sell well in Malaysia because everyone is terrified of the after sales service standards. Nobody gives a damn about it being a CBU. the Sonata is overaly priced. U think ppl are gonna choose the Sonate over a Camry just because its 11K cheaper? Common man! If its 20K difference then maybe ppl may have 2nd thoughts but with 11K, its a no brainer.

Toyota / Honda make great CKD cars with minimal complaints so this argument about CBU is a waste of time and space. Its old school.

(p/s sorry if i sounded harsh but im just fed up with all this CBU talk when i know its just a sale gimmick).
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 28 2010, 02:23 PM)
If ure impressed with this CBU /CKD bullshit, u must either be a salesman or someone who doesnt have internet access. So wht if its a CBU? U mean to say that CBU units have lesser problems than a CKD? If this is so, then your thinking is surely old school. All this CBU bullshit is the type of salesman talk that the ppl at Naza and Nasim fill u with. But i tell u its no big difference. My wife has a 3yrd old Kia (CBU) and she was just told to change her shock absorbers. Even the Kia centre told her the shock absorbers are not designed to last more than 80-90K km. What kind of CBU is this? My old 7 yr Toyota Vios is still running strong with all original parts despite running for around 135K. She has also had endless problems with her dashboard rattling since Year 1. (mind you she is a careful driver).

So please spare me this crap about CBU and the relevence to pricing. This Sonata will not sell well in Malaysia because everyone is terrified of the after sales service standards. Nobody gives a damn about it being a CBU. the Sonata is overaly priced. U think ppl are gonna choose the Sonate over a Camry just because its 11K cheaper? Common man! If its 20K difference then maybe ppl may have 2nd thoughts but with 11K, its a no brainer.

Toyota / Honda make great CKD cars with minimal complaints so this argument about CBU is a waste of time and space. Its old school.

(p/s sorry if i sounded harsh but im just fed up with all this CBU talk when i know its just a sale gimmick).
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if planning to get new 2.0 Civic better buy this 1 right?(2.0 high spec)
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM)
If ure impressed with this CBU /CKD bullshit, u must either be a salesman or someone who doesnt have internet access. So wht if its a CBU? U mean to say that CBU units have lesser problems than a CKD? If this is so, then your thinking is surely old school. All this CBU bullshit is the type of salesman talk that the ppl at Naza and Nasim fill u with. But i tell u its no big difference. My wife has a 3yrd old Kia (CBU) and she was just told to change her shock absorbers. Even the Kia centre told her the shock absorbers are not designed to last more than 80-90K km. What kind of CBU is this? My old 7 yr Toyota Vios is still running strong with all original parts despite running for around 135K. She has also had endless problems with her dashboard rattling since Year 1. (mind you she is a careful driver).

So please spare me this crap about CBU and the relevence to pricing. This Sonata will not sell well in Malaysia because everyone is terrified of the after sales service standards. Nobody gives a damn about it being a CBU. the Sonata is overaly priced. U think ppl are gonna choose the Sonate over a Camry just because its 11K cheaper? Common man! If its 20K difference then maybe ppl may have 2nd thoughts but with 11K, its a no brainer.

Toyota / Honda make great CKD cars with minimal complaints so this argument about CBU is a waste of time and space. Its old school.

(p/s sorry if i sounded harsh but im just fed up with all this CBU talk when i know its just a sale gimmick).
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ur nickname sounds familiar to me....keep on bashing korean's car hahahaha.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM)
If ure impressed with this CBU /CKD bullshit, u must either be a salesman or someone who doesnt have internet access. So wht if its a CBU? U mean to say that CBU units have lesser problems than a CKD? If this is so, then your thinking is surely old school. All this CBU bullshit is the type of salesman talk that the ppl at Naza and Nasim fill u with. But i tell u its no big difference. My wife has a 3yrd old Kia (CBU) and she was just told to change her shock absorbers. Even the Kia centre told her the shock absorbers are not designed to last more than 80-90K km. What kind of CBU is this? My old 7 yr Toyota Vios is still running strong with all original parts despite running for around 135K. She has also had endless problems with her dashboard rattling since Year 1. (mind you she is a careful driver).

So please spare me this crap about CBU and the relevence to pricing. This Sonata will not sell well in Malaysia because everyone is terrified of the after sales service standards. Nobody gives a damn about it being a CBU. the Sonata is overaly priced. U think ppl are gonna choose the Sonate over a Camry just because its 11K cheaper? Common man! If its 20K difference then maybe ppl may have 2nd thoughts but with 11K, its a no brainer.

Toyota / Honda make great CKD cars with minimal complaints so this argument about CBU is a waste of time and space. Its old school.

(p/s sorry if i sounded harsh but im just fed up with all this CBU talk when i know its just a sale gimmick).
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if u are talking about naza selling kia in malaysia, u might be right..but if hyundai, they are from different company in malaysia..about ur wife's car, it is a kia, not a hyundai..for me,this hyundai is a good car since it has a lot of features to offer,and won numerous awards..
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post Jun 28 2010, 05:09 PM

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The thing is Hyundai has improved alot since 5-10 years back and now its gaining its reputation in europe, australia and US. I would admit the Hyundai sonata looks better and well speced than its japanese rivals.

It just that the local franchise holders of Hyundai which needs fixing. It was held by Kah Bintang previously and now it is held by Sime Darby. Both has lesser experience compared to Tan Chong, UMWT and Honda which why they need alot of effort to fix this.

Even I not amazed with Naza's aftersales despite they putting a good effort on car equip value and pricing.


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QUOTE(ben83 @ Jun 26 2010, 11:41 AM)
ESP is different from Traction Control (normally known as TCS)
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM)
If ure impressed with this CBU /CKD bullshit, u must either be a salesman or someone who doesnt have internet access. So wht if its a CBU? U mean to say that CBU units have lesser problems than a CKD? If this is so, then your thinking is surely old school. All this CBU bullshit is the type of salesman talk that the ppl at Naza and Nasim fill u with. But i tell u its no big difference. My wife has a 3yrd old Kia (CBU) and she was just told to change her shock absorbers. Even the Kia centre told her the shock absorbers are not designed to last more than 80-90K km. What kind of CBU is this? My old 7 yr Toyota Vios is still running strong with all original parts despite running for around 135K. She has also had endless problems with her dashboard rattling since Year 1. (mind you she is a careful driver).

So please spare me this crap about CBU and the relevence to pricing. This Sonata will not sell well in Malaysia because everyone is terrified of the after sales service standards. Nobody gives a damn about it being a CBU. the Sonata is overaly priced. U think ppl are gonna choose the Sonate over a Camry just because its 11K cheaper? Common man! If its 20K difference then maybe ppl may have 2nd thoughts but with 11K, its a no brainer.

Toyota / Honda make great CKD cars with minimal complaints so this argument about CBU is a waste of time and space. Its old school.

(p/s sorry if i sounded harsh but im just fed up with all this CBU talk when i know its just a sale gimmick).
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just because u dont get good experience with ur CBU kia u make a big deal out of it..
my honda accord 2009 and city 2007 mix up go service center more than 10 times for warranty purpose and the toyota has faulty absorber just over 6months..
besides, u said ur car absorber still working good after 135k? can u actually prove it? mind u, just because it didnt leak doesnt mean it is still good and dont tell me u never change any wear and tear parts on ur car before yo:w

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