I remember this guy (cybermaster98) from Paul Tan korean cars site and now here which is also a korean car forum. This guy doesn't seem to like Korean cars, but often visit Korean cars dicussion forum and keep putting the same comments over and over again here and there.
He always talk about his 7 years old Vios in the forum that make me believe that his standard is only up to Vios level only.
He seemed to be very unbalance and unsteady over korean cars.
BTW, cybermaster, do you like korean BBQ or sushi? Just curious!

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Added on June 29, 2010, 2:02 amBTW, I think this Sonata is a well build car, the quality is actually on par with the Accord and Camry.
However, this car will still not sell well with this current price unless it is price about RM120,000 (2.0 high spec) just like Kia Forte which has a much lower price over its rivals.
Previous korean cars have really left the very bad impression in the Malaysia car market.


This post has been edited by x5m5: Jun 29 2010, 02:02 AM

I have made a booking on Forte 2.0 recently.
The reason why Forte is chosen is because of many oversea positive reviews of the car. It may not be the best in every areas of the car performance, however, some qualities and features are either on par or better than the Japanese counterparts.
To spend another extra RM30K--40K for a Japanese equivalence in Malaysia is TOTALLY INSANE.
And why we have to worry about the car service as it can be done easily at any Naza Kia workshop. A modern new car would not easily breakdown as long as you have not abused it and serviced regularly.
Regarding about the Forte or sonata resale value would be largely depend on the supply and demand in the future. Moreover, the saving of over RM30K-40K + interest of 5 to 7 years will give you a great lump sum when you decided to sell your car. (however, this rule only apply to Forte as Sonata pricing is too close to the Japanese counterparts)
SD, reduce your price, don't kill a nice product.

I have to agree what eddie said
Cybermaster has been condemned Koreans quality all the while in the Forte and Sonata forum by kept on bringing the older generation Koreans for comparison. I think he has finally agreed Koreans good quality now.
Just for the curiousity, he has never mentioned his wife owned a Korean car in all previous Forte forums, but why suddenly he started to mention his experience about his wife Korean car? From this I believe this guy is probably made up all those personal experience story on Korean car.

I think he got the messages of the majority here.
Is such a pity to put oneself in such a disgrace.
So the war is concluded.

I ageed what Eddie said.
Toyota produced very decent cars such as camry and altis in malaysia. In fact, these are their world cars which sell around the world.
However, come to Innova, Avanza and Vios, the trio are only sold in Asean which are meant for the third world countries like Malaysia. Technical speaking, these car are just put together using the older models chasis without new modern features and techs. And Hwa..la.. selling to people at a shocking price relatively high compared to the new and modern Koreans.
Sometime, I just symphatized people who drove the toyota trio, because since they can't afford a better car and yet do not have trust on the P1 and P2. so, as the only alternative is to buy a low spec third world Japanese cars.
I fully understand that before the forte and Sonata time, as most people with limited budget did not have any choice but to puchase the Toyota trio. However, as time come, now we can actually buy some good decent cars with a reasonable price. (such as Forte, Cruze, but not Sonata, the price is to close to its competitors). And I don't really see the reason to buy the third world Japs anymore as the newer korean are as reliable too and Naza has actually improved on their service already. (i have checked on a few who drive Forte)
Lets buy a good car that we can enjoy along the time of driving in years, instead of keep thinking about RESALE VALUE and SERVICE.
We buy car to enjoy and not for selling.
For those who refused to entertain new ideas, you can always stay in your small world driving the the trio and see much you would have miss in your entire life later.

Cheers...........

cybermaster, I am not attacking anyone here in this forum. Pls do not provoke me to DARE!!! I will not just sit down and do nothing about it if u continue!!!

Eh i thought u supposed to talk about the Sonata topic only? Dont la go off topic. Hehe

Ok. U got my message

Can not compete, unless to price like Forte. May be RM120k for high spec.

I took a test drive on Sonata. The overall is on par with the Japanese duo.