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dopp
post Jul 6 2010, 11:57 PM

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Bar drop.... does Call drop or not? If call not drop means bar drop to ZERO oso nvm what.
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:05 AM

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i wonder if ur bar drop will u still able to make or receive a call??i dont think so...if the bar drop to zero, it will eventually cut off the call
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(dopp @ Jul 6 2010, 11:57 PM)
Bar drop.... does Call drop or not? If call not drop means bar drop to ZERO oso nvm what.
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jul 7 2010, 12:05 AM)
i wonder if ur bar drop will u still able to  make or receive a  call??i dont think so...if the bar drop to zero, it will eventually cut off the call
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I didn't tell with a call..haha..i will test soon and let u guys know.
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:51 AM

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The only set that can be use in malaysia is UK? fully unlock?
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come on, bro...test everything 1st b4 asking....people are anxiously wanna knoe if your set realli problematic or just software & apple gonna release new version soon..
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(cynical66 @ Jul 7 2010, 12:51 AM)
come on, bro...test everything 1st b4 asking....people are anxiously wanna knoe if your set realli problematic or just software & apple gonna release new version soon..
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Lol..i'm quite sure it has something wrong when i see the reception going down when i hold it..
I'll test soon anyways.
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:18 AM

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i am currently using iphone 3g and looking forward to own iphone 4...

but the reception issues, yellow spot on screen and the need to cut the sim card because most telcos here dun have micro sim are things that set me back from my intention.. i mean i dont want to spend up to rm4k++ just to have a idevice that will force me to cut my own sim card, teach me how to hold it and smack with me a yellow spot right on its glorious retina display..

honestly, all of this problems are actually based on what i read on the internet, i have still yet to test it for myself so i just dont want to jump into conclusion yet..
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:29 AM

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i heard that coming 4.01 will fix the reception issues don't know is true or not.. besides that, some people used iphone 4g in malaysia got no problem issue on reception some people say is at&t problem but not sure yet
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QUOTE(prototype_x0 @ Jul 7 2010, 01:18 AM)
i am currently using iphone 3g and looking forward to own iphone 4...

but the reception issues, yellow spot on screen and the need to cut the sim card because most telcos here dun have micro sim are things that set me back from my intention.. i mean i dont want to spend up to rm4k++ just to have a idevice that will force me to cut my own sim card, teach me how to hold it and smack with me a yellow spot right on its glorious retina display..

honestly, all of this problems are actually based on what i read on the internet, i have still yet to test it for myself so i just dont want to jump into conclusion yet..
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Yellow spots are not a problem. It will go away in a few days.
And cutting a sim is really not a prob..and besides maxis will have it soon enough.

Only the reception issue but can be resolved with a simple casing i guess..
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post Jul 7 2010, 01:54 AM

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Look at where all these complaints are coming from. USA. Looks at the responses and the impressions from those who attended the Gathering HERE in KL. Are there any complaints on yellowing display? One complaint on the signal drops, and yet funnily, my iPhone 4, Beavis's iPhone 4, Harmeet's iPhone 4, ksc_3688's iPhone 4, Yuvanesh's iPhone 4 has yet to fail us or drop our calls. I myself have reported the opposite, I get freaking signals in places where calls were dropped before on the 3G[S].

What else do you want us to do to convince you that these complaints are sporadic at best? Out of the 1,700,000 units of iPhone 4, how many of those reported having yellowing display, dropped signals when squeezed? If all these issues are widespread, Apple would have already done a product recall on its iPhone 4, just like how Sony did on their exploding battery issue affecting more than the 500,000 units of their Vaio laptops.

For the love of God, is it so hard to trust you fellow Malaysians, your forum members here that this issue is overblown disporpotionately? Also, notice all these NONSENSE are reported in USA only? The yellowing display issue is the glue drying up, and once dried, it clears up the screen. Read the freaking whole story, and NOT just the juicy bits about the defect. Read why it is yellow in the first place. The dropping signal when held in hand issue, why arent the Germans, the French or the Brits are howling over the internet over this and only the American are b****ing about it? Once you read the big picture, and understand how spotty and problematic AT&T's coverage in the States, and how the American themselves hate AT&T for this, you'd understand why this issue is not the phone, it's the service provider. Why wouldn't I replicate the same results here with Celcom? Or Maxis? In fact, why the hell are you worried about the Americans complaining about their iPhones when you are not getting the American iPhone 4 in the first place, and none of the issues are appearing or being reported and complaint upon by the other users in other countries?

In short, trust your fellow users here. I'm not kissing Apple's butt or reporting misinformation. The reason why the Gathering was planned and held was for you yourself to discern, analyse and remove doubt, once and for all, that all these fluff of complaints are trivial, moot and nonsensical at best. My phone is fine, Beavis's phone is fine, Harmeet's, Yuvanesh and ksc_3688's units are fine. Is that so hard to believe, or are you accusing of covering up these flaws for Apple's sake?

The fact of the matter is, those who shouts and makes complaints the loudest are those who are facing all these problems, and their numbers are far outnumbered by the satisfied customers who had nothing to complain, thus keeping their mouth shut. Only those who had problematic (depending on how they expect their phone to behave) would make the loudest noise, those like us who have perfect phones have no reason to b**** and moan to the top our lungs about it.

I'm free until 11th, if you still dont believe me, come on over, meet me, testdrive the goddamned iPhone 4 and see for yourself that all these nonsense are what it is..."nonsense". Forget the internet reports, their problems their facing is unique to their network infrastructure, network performance on their telco and how it interacts with the iPhone 4 itself. BOTTOM LINE is, those majority of us using our iPhone 4s on Maxis and Celcom are facing none of these issues, and that is what it should matter to you, NOT what is happening to American users on AT&T. You are not going to buy the American iPhone 4s because it is locked anyway, isnt it?

I kept my quiet all this while, but this is the third time, the same question about these "issues" have cropped up, and frankly, it needed to be addressed. Sorry if it sounds a bit exasperated, but folks here asking these questions dont seem to be thinking the big picture, and see how all these howlings of complaints on the iPhone 4 only coming from select part of the launch country and not their own backyard.

Peace, freaking out!
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:06 AM

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the main conclusion is... not to trust some rumors.... let yourselves decide what is best or not....

like SF said, and what ive read from macrumors (i usually surf this website everyday for iphone news) all the network drop downs and such usually happened in US....

just be patient... let iphone 4 launched in malaysia so if anything u can return it back.... but if ure a bit adventurous.... go buy outside and let yourselves experience the true nature of iphone 4....

and if it launch in malaysia.... it would cost as much as last iphone 3gs.... this has been proven by foreign telco (such as AT&T, O2 etc) they been selling iphone 4 as like they sold the last iphone 3gs price....

keyword.... trust and patient....
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 7 2010, 01:54 AM)
Look at where all these complaints are coming from. USA. Looks at the responses and the impressions from those who attended the Gathering HERE in KL. Are there any complaints on yellowing display? One complaint on the signal drops, and yet funnily, my iPhone 4, Beavis's iPhone 4, Harmeet's iPhone 4, ksc_3688's iPhone 4, Yuvanesh's iPhone 4 has yet to fail us or drop our calls. I myself have reported the opposite, I get freaking signals in places where calls were dropped before on the 3G[S].

What else do you want us to do to convince you that these complaints are sporadic at best? Out of the 1,700,000 units of iPhone 4, how many of those reported having yellowing display, dropped signals when squeezed? If all these issues are widespread, Apple would have already done a product recall on its iPhone 4, just like how Sony did on their exploding battery issue affecting more than the 500,000 units of their Vaio laptops.

For the love of God, is it so hard to trust you fellow Malaysians, your forum members here that this issue is overblown disporpotionately? Also, notice all these NONSENSE are reported in USA only? The yellowing display issue is the glue drying up, and once dried, it clears up the screen. Read the freaking whole story, and NOT just the juicy bits about the defect. Read why it is yellow in the first place. The dropping signal when held in hand issue, why arent the Germans, the French or the Brits are howling over the internet over this and only the American are b****ing about it? Once you read the big picture, and understand how spotty and problematic AT&T's coverage in the States, and how the American themselves hate AT&T for this, you'd understand why this issue is not the phone, it's the service provider. Why wouldn't I replicate the same results here with Celcom? Or Maxis? In fact, why the hell are you worried about the Americans complaining about their iPhones when you are not getting the American iPhone 4 in the first place, and none of the issues are appearing or being reported and complaint upon by the other users in other countries?

In short, trust your fellow users here. I'm not kissing Apple's butt or reporting misinformation. The reason why the Gathering was planned and held was for you yourself to discern, analyse and remove doubt, once and for all, that all these fluff of complaints are trivial, moot and nonsensical at best. My phone is fine, Beavis's phone is fine, Harmeet's, Yuvanesh and ksc_3688's units are fine. Is that so hard to believe, or are you accusing of covering up these flaws for Apple's sake?

The fact of the matter is, those who shouts and makes complaints the loudest are those who are facing all these problems, and their numbers are far outnumbered by the satisfied customers who had nothing to complain, thus keeping their mouth shut. Only those who had problematic (depending on how they expect their phone to behave) would make the loudest noise, those like us who have perfect phones have no reason to b**** and moan to the top our lungs about it.

I'm free until 11th, if you still dont believe me, come on over, meet me, testdrive the goddamned iPhone 4 and see for yourself that all these nonsense are what it is..."nonsense". Forget the internet reports, their problems their facing is unique to their network infrastructure, network performance on their telco and how it interacts with the iPhone 4 itself. BOTTOM LINE is, those majority of us using our iPhone 4s on Maxis and Celcom are facing none of these issues, and that is what it should matter to you, NOT what is happening to American users on AT&T. You are not going to buy the American iPhone 4s because it is locked anyway, isnt it?

I kept my quiet all this while, but this is the third time, the same question about these "issues" have cropped up, and frankly, it needed to be addressed. Sorry if it sounds a bit exasperated, but folks here asking these questions dont seem to be thinking the big picture, and see how all these howlings of complaints on the iPhone 4 only coming from select part of the launch country and not their own backyard.

Peace, freaking out!
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i got something to add to it.

y some ppl must say that 1st batch of iphone 4 got problem and will wait till 2nd batch iphone 4. what make u think that 2nd batch iphone 4 will be better than 1st batch? isn't all iphone is the same......do they change any part in it in 2nd batch, be more mature in making any comment. dun be silly....y dun just wait for 20th batch it will be no problem at all??????

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Perhaps to put this nonsense behind us once and for all, I'll report how it is on the AT&T network when I do the "Kung Fu Grip of Death" on my iPhone 4 naked when I'm in the States next week. If I do have dropping signal when I'm there, and none such nonsense when I'm back here in Malaysia or when I'm in Taiwan, what does that tells you doubters then?


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post Jul 7 2010, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(beavis68 @ Jul 7 2010, 02:24 AM)
i got something to add to it.

y some ppl must say that 1st batch of iphone 4 got problem and will wait till 2nd batch iphone 4. what make u think that 2nd batch iphone 4 will be better than 1st batch? isn't all iphone is the same......do they change any part in it in 2nd batch, be more mature in making any comment. dun be silly....y dun just wait for 20th batch it will be no problem at all??????
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Totally agree with u bro.

P.S - I'm the one with the phone with problems and i'm still loving it. laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:35 AM

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i think some of seniors over here should be mature in making comment, not just getting emotionally driven just because one user sharing his concern about getting an iphone 4.

dun be silly, it's just an iphone, why should gets your head cracked up? it's not that you guys giving it over free of charge... it's not even your parent's company for heaven's sake..

try to be open minded in accepting people's POV, no wonder the term "fanboy" exist on the first place...

no heart feeling please. please keep this thread clean. thanks
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Back to you as well, if it is "just an iPhone" why are so concerned with the supposed "flaws" if it wasn't important enough as you portray it to be?

Back to you as well, be open minded and accept people's POV that *gasp* there may be a sizable amount of us present users of the iPhone 4 NOT facing any of the reported problems on local telcos. Is that so hard to believe?

No wonder the term "pessimist" exist for fence-standers in the first place.

No heart feeling here either, and please keep your insinuations direct instead of padding it with the word "seniors". I'd appreciate it if people were to address their issues to me direct instead of whispering behind the back of their hands.
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:48 AM

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Anyway string, any clue on how to activate the LED light and act as a flashlight? Is it possible in the first place?

And i'm really really impressed on what Apple did on the retina display..great job.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 7 2010, 02:41 AM)
Back to you as well, if it is "just an iPhone" why are so concerned with the supposed "flaws" if it wasn't important enough as you portray it to be?

Back to you as well, be open minded and accept people's POV that *gasp* there may be a sizable amount of us present users of the iPhone 4 NOT facing any of the reported problems on local telcos. Is that so hard to believe?

No wonder the term "pessimist" exist for fence-standers in the first place.

No heart feeling here either, and please keep your insinuations direct instead of padding it with the word "seniors". I'd appreciate it if people were to address their issues to me direct instead of whispering behind the back of their hands.
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you are getting all the wrong idea over here..

anyway just be cool and stay calm, please don't be emotionally driven.. no point for us arguing over this issue. it is completely baseless.. healthy discussion is all we need over here.

thank you for your understanding
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QUOTE(Masamune @ Jul 7 2010, 02:48 AM)
Anyway string, any clue on how to activate the LED light and act as a flashlight? Is it possible in the first place?

And i'm really really impressed on what Apple did on the retina display..great job.
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Turn on your Camera app, flick the switch to video, and turn the flash on. It will stay on until the time you set to Auto-Lock is set to. As with all security feature of any iPhone with Microsoft Exchange email set in, the Auto-Lock will have a maximum of 5 minutes before it turns the iPhone off due to inactivity. If you dont have any Microsoft Exchange mail set up, the option "Never" is available, so with that set in, your flash LED will be on, forever....until the battery runs out.
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stringfellow, g3n0c|d3 & beavis68 - you're the man (men)....completely 100% agree with u guys...

iphone 4 havent get on hands, already talk this and that...why dun u guys out there get one and try it yourself?

example - A fella prooved to whole world dat iPhone 4 can be scratched, realli idiot..who asked him to scratched it?

And Apple never said that iPhone 4 is 100% scratch resistance..the last thing i knoe is, only diamonds are 100% scratch resistance...

imagine - if apple use diamonds to make the glass, lol...try guess how much it will be..

Masamune - thanks for the imformation dat the "yellow" spot will go away in few days...


if u guys got so many worries, dun buy iPhones..go for Nokia 3310 - 100% satisfaction guarantee ...LOL

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