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beavis68
post Jun 25 2010, 04:31 PM

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Hi, guy the iPhone 'population' in Malaysia thread is up and ready...... iPhone user are welcome to register.

Thanx

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post Jun 26 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(samngcheesan @ Jun 26 2010, 11:16 AM)
SO , U R THE 1ST touch iphone 4 in malaysia ?
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maybe yes...maybe not....but i'm glad to have it.......
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post Jun 26 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ksc_3688 @ Jun 26 2010, 11:23 AM)
boss can help me cut the sim when my iphone arrives? is coming around thursday.
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can can......u come tomeet me in KL...i got the micro sim sample.


Added on June 26, 2010, 11:40 amjust now was maxis......

now celcom turns....

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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif left: Stringfellow's iphone4 | right : beavis68's iphone4


Added on June 26, 2010, 11:54 am
QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 26 2010, 11:31 AM)
I wanna get it as well... pls dont mind let me know where & how much u bought it?
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i dun mind yelling u........ transporter bought it in London.....499pound for 16gb, 599pound for 32gb. but got to get in line in apple store for 6hours

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post Jun 26 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(samngcheesan @ Jun 26 2010, 11:54 AM)
so , signal got drop or not ?
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now going to test it in town.... but first got to get screen protector which i dun think it going to fit d iphone4

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post Jun 26 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Masamune @ Jun 26 2010, 01:36 PM)
Great dude..where are u? When my iphone 4 arrives maybe need ur help cut..follow any guide?
Whoa..great addition dude..  rclxms.gif
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I'm in KL pm mr if you need help in cutting the sim. One simple advice try not to cut into the gold area of the sim.
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post Jun 26 2010, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Jun 26 2010, 08:43 PM)
my sister touch down at KL this evening...she's bringing home my iphone4...wuhuhuh....she just walking in to apple store in white city london and bought it without needed to que...the store closed 10pm and she went there 9pm on 24th june. she bought using her CC for 424.60 + 74.40 (VAT)...499 (16gb) free sim. need a tutorial on how to cut normal sim card to micro simcard...anyluck guys?
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Pm me or Stringfellow if u need help in cutting sim.
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post Jun 28 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Jun 28 2010, 03:21 PM)
the retina display really really superb.....u don't want to see ur previous iphone after that(just kidding)....the icon the font were so crisp...really sharp...the sound maybe upgrade 10% than previous iphone...much much better while holding the phone..and for face time...not tested yet..i will upload the details of the iphone 4 later....but the signal are better than before...in my office normally there was no services at all...but with iphone 4...the signal can be up to 3 bars...that is the significant that i needed most on an iphone...better reception at low reception area....but need to hold the phone properly or u will loose the signal like iphone 4 users complaint about.
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to be honest, i dun encounter this reception issue..........but i will still get d bumper.....
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post Jun 29 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Freshie @ Jun 29 2010, 04:14 PM)
In that case, can i pre-order one from apple sg online store and collect it straight from the apple store? In july that is.
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million dollar question....... does singapore got apple store?

u can order...but collect it where?
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post Jun 30 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 30 2010, 02:37 PM)
Reporting no problems here, on Celcom, with or without the Bumper. icon_rolleyes.gif
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using it from saturday till now without bumper......... no problem at all.......reception is good...
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post Jul 4 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(monked @ Jul 4 2010, 02:04 PM)
what do you mean by multi page browsing  hmm.gif
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meaning when u open more than few website at one time, only one page will display the rest will hide behind the background.

i dun find this useful, multitab will be more useful. try use atomic web or browser.....u will ditch safari.
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post Jul 4 2010, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Jul 4 2010, 06:10 PM)
Got a friend now in France and he check around for me that iPhone 4G 16GB is selling Euro 799 and 32GB is selling Euro 899 locked version and to unlocked it add Euro100. Is that worth or not, he coming back next week.
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if you go to france apple store...iphone 4 16gb is only 629euro and 32gb is 739euro.
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post Jul 7 2010, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 7 2010, 01:54 AM)
Look at where all these complaints are coming from. USA. Looks at the responses and the impressions from those who attended the Gathering HERE in KL. Are there any complaints on yellowing display? One complaint on the signal drops, and yet funnily, my iPhone 4, Beavis's iPhone 4, Harmeet's iPhone 4, ksc_3688's iPhone 4, Yuvanesh's iPhone 4 has yet to fail us or drop our calls. I myself have reported the opposite, I get freaking signals in places where calls were dropped before on the 3G[S].

What else do you want us to do to convince you that these complaints are sporadic at best? Out of the 1,700,000 units of iPhone 4, how many of those reported having yellowing display, dropped signals when squeezed? If all these issues are widespread, Apple would have already done a product recall on its iPhone 4, just like how Sony did on their exploding battery issue affecting more than the 500,000 units of their Vaio laptops.

For the love of God, is it so hard to trust you fellow Malaysians, your forum members here that this issue is overblown disporpotionately? Also, notice all these NONSENSE are reported in USA only? The yellowing display issue is the glue drying up, and once dried, it clears up the screen. Read the freaking whole story, and NOT just the juicy bits about the defect. Read why it is yellow in the first place. The dropping signal when held in hand issue, why arent the Germans, the French or the Brits are howling over the internet over this and only the American are b****ing about it? Once you read the big picture, and understand how spotty and problematic AT&T's coverage in the States, and how the American themselves hate AT&T for this, you'd understand why this issue is not the phone, it's the service provider. Why wouldn't I replicate the same results here with Celcom? Or Maxis? In fact, why the hell are you worried about the Americans complaining about their iPhones when you are not getting the American iPhone 4 in the first place, and none of the issues are appearing or being reported and complaint upon by the other users in other countries?

In short, trust your fellow users here. I'm not kissing Apple's butt or reporting misinformation. The reason why the Gathering was planned and held was for you yourself to discern, analyse and remove doubt, once and for all, that all these fluff of complaints are trivial, moot and nonsensical at best. My phone is fine, Beavis's phone is fine, Harmeet's, Yuvanesh and ksc_3688's units are fine. Is that so hard to believe, or are you accusing of covering up these flaws for Apple's sake?

The fact of the matter is, those who shouts and makes complaints the loudest are those who are facing all these problems, and their numbers are far outnumbered by the satisfied customers who had nothing to complain, thus keeping their mouth shut. Only those who had problematic (depending on how they expect their phone to behave) would make the loudest noise, those like us who have perfect phones have no reason to b**** and moan to the top our lungs about it.

I'm free until 11th, if you still dont believe me, come on over, meet me, testdrive the goddamned iPhone 4 and see for yourself that all these nonsense are what it is..."nonsense". Forget the internet reports, their problems their facing is unique to their network infrastructure, network performance on their telco and how it interacts with the iPhone 4 itself. BOTTOM LINE is, those majority of us using our iPhone 4s on Maxis and Celcom are facing none of these issues, and that is what it should matter to you, NOT what is happening to American users on AT&T. You are not going to buy the American iPhone 4s because it is locked anyway, isnt it?

I kept my quiet all this while, but this is the third time, the same question about these "issues" have cropped up, and frankly, it needed to be addressed. Sorry if it sounds a bit exasperated, but folks here asking these questions dont seem to be thinking the big picture, and see how all these howlings of complaints on the iPhone 4 only coming from select part of the launch country and not their own backyard.

Peace, freaking out!
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i got something to add to it.

y some ppl must say that 1st batch of iphone 4 got problem and will wait till 2nd batch iphone 4. what make u think that 2nd batch iphone 4 will be better than 1st batch? isn't all iphone is the same......do they change any part in it in 2nd batch, be more mature in making any comment. dun be silly....y dun just wait for 20th batch it will be no problem at all??????

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post Jul 7 2010, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(ck_yoong @ Jul 7 2010, 06:06 AM)
I  have a different opinion on that, 1st batch and 2nd batch and so on batch may have differences just like for cars. If the first batch of cars have common problems report, manufacturers rectify the problem in the 2nd batch of cars and so on.

Back to the iphone, for example the yellowish screen is caused by the manufacturing or assembly process flaw. Therefore the 2nd batch may undergo a different/improved manufacturing process to reduce that defect occurrence in the product down the line ie 2nd batch and so on.

Also for example apple says that the formula to calculate signal bar strength is wrong which affects the 1st batch of phones. Therefore the software update maybe applied directly to the 2nd batch of phones which reduces customers frustration of updating it themselves.

Waiting the 20th batch which is an exaggerated figure may actually be a good idea as the occurrence of problems is minimized because all manufacturing companies try to reduce to amount of rejected parts/phones to as closely possible to zero.

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i think your opinion is back to square one. if you do enough research, the yellowish screen is due to the glue not properly dried. this is not due to hardware problem. how they going to improved it? dun use glue? they will still use the glue on the screen maybe this time apple will let it dried properly before they send out to their customer.

calculation on signal bar is due to software problem, in future u might get an iphone which already updated to their new software to rectify this issue. but then this is also a software problem and nothing is done on hardware. still the first batch get the software update as the same as 2nd batch iphone. unless u say they totally changed their antenna hardware, then it can consider 2nd batch is better, that will net be likely going to happen.

so 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th batch basically is all the same. i stated 20th batch it a just a sarcasm.

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QUOTE(ck_yoong @ Jul 7 2010, 11:55 AM)
I think you lost me too. I wrote that reduce defect occurrence not defect free in the 2nd batch and so on. I agree with you it is also based on luck sometimes. However with reduced defect occurrence due to improvements I think there is much better luck in getting a defect free phone in the second batch. So 1st batch phone and 2nd batch phones is not the same as beavis said.

But I think you need to back up the fact that you said that once production number goes up and QC goes down exponentially as number increases in my view is not true.

Conclusion is there is a difference in the 1st and 2nd batch however the 2nd batch does not mean 100% defect free but a improved chance of getting a perfect phone. For those who get their phone early enjoy your phone (soon I will join XD) and people who is wait and see aka cautious buyer (2.5k is pretty big sum) go ahead nothing wrong.

Plus that is why we have warranty people  thumbup.gif

P/S: I was not aware that fanboy post are also welcomed here  lets poison the world icon_rolleyes.gif
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did i say that?

i just tired of this....... what will make u think 2nd batch is better from 1st batch? SoS? Proved? dun just use baseless text and misled other.

take an example of maxis 3GS......... maxis stock should be in later than 2nd batch, and yet y alot of problem still persist?sunken home button, can't turn on, and many more.
this is totally base on luck.

your assumption of batches is baseless........ show us proved that stated that the coming batches is improved and better than 1st batch.

i'm here not to argue, just i dun want to misled other ppl.

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QUOTE(angah_krl @ Jul 12 2010, 05:46 AM)
thanks for the information given but next time don't accuse me for a something that i'm not,that's rude..and please becareful on your words as it may makes people feel unpleasant.. i came to this thread to gain a quick info..if you ever feel annoyed because of a repeating question,then,yes,i'm sorry..
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if u dun have time to go thru all the pages from this thread, just type "reception" on the below search panel provided. u will get to narrow down to 3 or 4pages.
i would say majority of the iphone 4 users here does NOT encounter the reception issue. That why we have the previous iphone 4 gathering to proved that no reception problem at all no matter how u grip it (ie. grip of death, cover all side grip, terbalik grip, and etc). there r 7unit of iphone 4 available to test at the gathering that we have just organised. all 7unit put on test for the grip of death, and yet not a single unit encounter this so call reception issue. and stated by string, in the test we did cover using from maxis original micro sim to DIY sim to several different telco sim and yet no reception problem encountered.

if you search thru the thread about reception, you can see that our forumner chizzu is reporting no problem on the reception, and yet he/she is using UK telco.
Still more prove....forumner kebeckham7 also reported no reception issue while using d iphone 4 in east coast.

so far out of 10user....9user reported "TADAK" reception problem even you perform "whatever grip of death" on it.



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QUOTE(kerollowyat @ Jul 12 2010, 10:59 AM)
Hi again,

Forgot to mention that it has never been about the reception issue that I'm interested in. I'm fine with it.
It's not going to hold me from getting the iPhone and more for my family. The facetime is so cool...  biggrin.gif . This is the feature that I've been waiting since I'm using iPhone 2G.
And there are more you can do and more to come. That's the great about iPhone.

Anyway guys, what's new with your iPhone. Haven't heard much, like the gyroscope.

Opss.. about your push notification, can't help you much. Not iPhone 4 owner, yet .  nod.gif
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even you dun need to wait till 2011 to use the video call over the 3G network, as promise by apple. right NOW u can use fring for video call over the 3G network.
u can use fring WIFI to WIFI, WIFI to 3G and vice versa. it no longer restricted to iphone 4 to iphone 4...... u can used it from iphone 4 to 3G[S], 3G, Nokia, SE and etc. as long as they support fring application. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(kerollowyat @ Jul 12 2010, 11:29 AM)
Yeah.. that's so wonderful. It's crazy.  rclxms.gif
So you guys already tested the video call using Fring. How's the quality through the 3G network?
Wait, even 3G can use?  drool.gif
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yes i tested with bro string... WIFI to WIFI is alot better. 3G will be abit blocky but at least it work over 3G network. to get good 3G video call, it all depend on your telco network.
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Jul 13 2010, 05:08 PM)
seriously DG...you are totally write..We have been using the iphone 4 but untill now i had never experienced any signal problem or even line breaking...so far everything is fine...noted that no bumper case tooo..
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I have lost count on answering the antenna issue.... tongue.gif . But seriously I dun encounter antena issue. If any of u guys want to test it and to clear the antenna doubt, do pm me and I will let u test it.

No drop test.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:36 PM

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hey guys, some one in the forum asking for prove instead of putting in word......(u should know who u r)

have a look. the video is not so clear but enough to proved it.

video 1

video 2

so i can say my unit got no such problem.
and yes i'm squeezing the antenna until my finger and thumb felt the pain.



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post Jul 16 2010, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(elainor @ Jul 16 2010, 04:02 PM)
hmm did u put a tape on the antenna section??can u do another vid that show the antenna clearly without covered it up or anything and then do the death grip as u did in the video...no hatred...

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Fren do I need to do the tape and cheat u all?

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