It's up to the judge to determine what is a 'good husband'.

Technically if husband provides nafkah zahir (money to spend, house, transportation, maid etc.) and nafkah batin (consensual sex, loving children), wife has no 'real' reason to ask divorce even if he's being unfaithful.

If husband is courting other women and eventually marries a 2nd wife, technically 1st wife cannot object because Muslim man can have 4 wives. She can even be considered as a 'bad wife' if she does not consent to the 2nd wife if the husband goes through all the proper channels.

In actual Islamic law, husband doesn't actually need 1st wife's permission, only in syariah law written in Malaysia that you have to get permission from 1st wife and go to court with the permission in order to properly document the marriage.

She can ask for divorce, but it is up to her to prove that the reasons for divorce are valid as written before. The power to divorce is still with the husband.

I think Bung Mokhtar's 1st wife want a divorce, but then she has to pay compenstaion, and which woman who depend on her husband for her wealth would want that? All she can hope for is karma, in the form that Bung would soon get bored with Zizie and marry another sexy actress so Zizie can feel the same way she did.

yeah, it sounds unfair. I believe this is what Sisters in ISlam are actually fighting for, but unfortunately the Islamic law is written in stone (metaphorically), to go against it means you are against Islam itself.

i support single mothers!

Errrr.....
I thought Islam won't accept the principle of karma.

Just to enlighten everyone that karma means seed of deeds. The cultivation of deeds may or may not affect current livehood. Since Islam don't encourage the belief of rebirth, "karma" terms wildly being use as synomin to effect of action which may be misinterpret among mass.

Therefore I think the best term to use instead of karma is consequences (akibat).

karma = 5 alphabets

consequences = over 9000 alphabets.

Conclusion, easier and faster to type karma. More people get the idea as well.

Retibution also can use, but still >9000 aplhabets....

but apart from malaysia, the husband dont need 1st wife consent to court and marry another woman?

Any woman would be heartbroken.

Azrinaz going to get a hefty sum of alimony (nafkah).
It's stop untill she remarries another man.

Then again some Muslim countries ban polygamy too.

Maybe that's why Jezamine Lim's parents don't want her to marry Harith, later he became horny and marry another hot girl, Jazamine can't do nothin'. I heard Harith is quite the playa', met him a few times while I was living near Ampang....

BTW Harith must be a rich Melei, he wrote a personal cheque to Jezamine for her hantaran (wedding gift).

hav sex in the rujuk period means rujuk la(want to get together again)

HAHAA

lucky guy...ada wang, ada amoi

bro.... talak 1 & 2, if u had sex on the period of the given time(rujuk period), its means u want to get together(rujuk).... dont have to go to court, but that just want to make sure that u remember how many times u already divorce ur wife... b cause some ppl who lack of info bout islamic law wont know if they hav divorce his wife in anger using the other term like "i let u go", or "go back to your parent house" or zihar his wife with someone he cant marry

This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Jun 17 2010, 03:37 PM

I really LOL at the fella who really goes to court to keep tract. If he really loves his wife and accidentally her, he wont even want to go to court on this.

ya i think... thats derhaka wife u dont need to compensate... but i m not sure the man one

This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Jun 17 2010, 03:36 PM

Bro, I don't know which understanding is rite now....

According to my understanding, if you say "Saya ceraikan kamu", in or outside of court, the cerai talak is official already. She is not your wife any more.

You must live separately. SEPARATELY!

Going to court is just a formality, except that if you got to court after saying cerai, you will be fined as per Malaysian Syariah law.

If you cerai your wife, and later have sexing with her, won't the resulting child be an anak haram because you are no longer husband and wife?

The reason why there's three times is like baseball. 3 strikes, and you're out! Get another man/woman....

tua2 pun janji barang besar
:drips:

talak 1 and 2 have rujuk period.... sex, or say sorry sand say want to b to gether, any sign that means u want ur wife back, in the period means u want to rujuk back.... if after the period u still dont rujuk, u have to remarried under a new akad to get together....

This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Jun 17 2010, 03:50 PM

Are you sure? What if you force yourself unto your ex-wife? Isn't this rape?

Once talak she is not your wife anymore, remember? 3 month separation is just grace period in case you change your mind during the separation....

Rujuk still have to go back to pejabat agama rite?

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This post has been edited by marsalee: Nov 21 2010, 10:17 AM

what rape? when u talak 1 and 2, unless the rujuk period is over, u still husband and wife.... husband and wife got rape?

This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Jun 17 2010, 03:55 PM

I am clear on the 3 month iddah period, but I'm not sure that having sex with your ex-wife while under iddah period is halal any more.

Show me a link where sex during iddah period is halal.....

Wah, this is ajaran sesat!

When you talak, you are no longer husband and wife la!

Doesn't matter if talak 1 or talak 2, you must live separately!

I found a source that backs me up on this:

iv. Kewajipan tempat tinggal dan nafkah
Nafkah dan tempat tinggal adalah hak perempuan yang wajib diberikan oleh suami.

Mengenai tempat tinggal, iaitu tempat tinggal di mana di mana terjadinya perceraian, samada dengan talak atau kematian.

Suami tidak dibenarkan tinggal serumah dengan bekas isterinya itu atau memasukki tempat di mana bekas isterinya itu berada tanpa membawa bersama mahram. Larangan ini adalah untuk mengelakkan terjadinya khalwat yang sememangnya diharamkan terhadap pasangan ini. Manakala bekas isteri pula wajib menahan atau melarang suami dari melakukan perkara tersebut jika berkemampuan.

On further reaading, what you mention is applicable to Mazhab Hanafi and Maliki but NOT Mazhab Syafie. Since you are from Kuala Terengganu, and Terengganu is in Malaysia, you must be a Muslim who follows Mazhab Syafie.

Ustaz Zaharudin has mentioned that Mazhab Syafie does not allow ruju' via sexing your ex-wife during iddah period.