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Faidzal
post Jun 17 2010, 09:18 AM

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Sultan Brunei wants Rozita Che Wan?
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post Jun 17 2010, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Jun 17 2010, 08:58 AM)
Shes a Malaysian.. TV3 personality... based on statistic, if a person marrying a Malaysian within the entertainment industry will have a higher chance of divorce... not exactly happily ever after!

ada yg tak kene nih.. sampai semua kene tarik balik... sure gaduh besar
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this is effin true. Kes cerai also happen between local artists biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2010, 09:43 AM

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eh, how many wives he dah ceraikan? few years ago he baru ceraikan one of his malaysian wives right? ini bini ke-berape ni?
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:11 AM

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tolong la rozita che wan jgn kawen ngn sultan brunei..
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:16 AM

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Sudah dapat gading bertuah, tanduk tidak berguna lagi.

Kalau aku jadi Sultan Brunei, tak nak Rozita Che Wan tu...dah tua laugh.gif
Baik amik yang umur <30.
Boleh 'pakai' lama sikit brows.gif laugh.gif
Perempuan >40 dah out dah.


This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Jun 17 2010, 10:25 AM
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Jun 17 2010, 03:41 AM)
talak 1 and 2, is cerai.... but theres a certain period for u to get back(rujuk).... if u not get back in this period, u need to make a new akad(the marry ritual with the tok imam, )....

but talak 3, no rujuk... and u cant remarry with a new akad also..... if still want marry, ur wife(ex) have to marry other people and divorce, then only u can marry...

basically u hav 3 chance la to divorce ur wife... but if u say" i cerai u dengan talak 3" then habis la ur other talak 1 and 2.... u go straight to talak 3, hav to face the consequences la
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If say already, can take back? Supposing no other people around?

I thought divorce is only enforced through legal means (i.e. black & white agreement signed) and not just words
Otherwise, it seems to be VERY easy to just divorce by saying "talak" at the spur of the moment (i.e. emo)

QUOTE(mucxha @ Jun 17 2010, 08:01 AM)
if kena talak satu/dua then the husband must support the wife until certain period, not remember but i think 3 times period kot...
and the wife can still stay at the husband's house during that time and they even can have secks, legally... but after the period still no rujuk then baru officially divorce.. if talak 3 then ultimate la cannot remarry until the wife got divorce by other husband a.k.a <insert race> buta...

but now ppl divorce then suruh hantar balik kampung...
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Whats the point of talak then if she is still around and continues with sex? Self defeating purpose.

And why is it that only men can talak woman and not the other way around?
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post Jun 17 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 17 2010, 10:16 AM)
Sudah dapat gading bertuah, tanduk tidak berguna lagi.

Kalau aku jadi Sultan Brunei, tak nak Rozita Che Wan tu...dah tua  laugh.gif
Baik amik yang umur <30.
Boleh 'pakai' lama sikit  brows.gif  laugh.gif
Perempuan >40 dah out dah.

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diana denielle sure book her air asia ticket to brunei already
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ayamkambing @ Jun 17 2010, 10:54 AM)
If say already, can take back? Supposing no other people around?

I thought divorce is only enforced through legal means (i.e. black & white agreement signed) and not just words
Otherwise, it seems to be VERY easy to just divorce by saying "talak" at the spur of the moment (i.e. emo)
Whats the point of talak then if she is still around and continues with sex? Self defeating purpose.

And why is it that only men can talak woman and not the other way around?
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That is why in Malaysia, you can only officially and legally say "Saya ceraikan kamu dengan talak xxx..." in the divorce court proceeding.

If you do it outside of the court, you can be fined or jailed.

This is called syariah law, the same law that states Bung Mokhtar must be jailed because he married Zizie without court and supposedly his 1st wife's permission.

Also, once you mention talak to her, YOU CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH HER. That /ktard was trolling you....

Technically once your talak has been confirmed by the court, you must live separately in different houses. Originally the wife must stay in the house you live together while you the male must live somewhere, but nowadays most divorcee's rather live somewhere else, like their own personal house or their parents (balik kampung).

Muslimat (female muslims) can ask for divorce, but the power to divorce still resides with the husband.

Supposedly this is to prevent women from getting divorced by the simplest of things, since women are more emotional.

If woman wants a divorce from husband, I think it's termed as fasakh, the woman must compensate the husband (pay him off).

Say the woman mention something like "I want a divorce, I'll pay you RM1 million", if the husband agrees, they can go to court to finalize the divorce, then she can pay him off.


Inb4 syariah lawyer comes and schools /ktards on Islamic law....
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ripp87 @ Jun 17 2010, 09:43 AM)
eh, how many wives he dah ceraikan? few years ago he baru ceraikan one of his malaysian wives right? ini bini ke-berape ni?
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That one was his brother, Pengiran Sufri. Sufri married and divorced Mazuin Hamzah (Amy Mastura's cousin).

Maybe Sultan Brunei wanna test his luck and marry Manohara?
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post Jun 17 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 17 2010, 11:07 AM)
That one was his brother, Pengiran Sufri. Sufri married and divorced Mazuin Hamzah (Amy Mastura's cousin).

Maybe Sultan Brunei wanna test his luck and marry Manohara?
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doh.gif Maybe Lisa Surihani? biggrin.gif I can hear thousand screaming "No....." tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 17 2010, 11:05 AM)
That is why in Malaysia, you can only officially and legally say "Saya ceraikan kamu dengan talak xxx..." in the divorce court proceeding.

If you do it outside of the court, you can be fined or jailed.

This is called syariah law, the same law that states Bung Mokhtar must be jailed because he married Zizie without court and supposedly his 1st wife's permission.

Also, once you mention talak to her, YOU CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH HER. That /ktard was trolling you....

Technically once your talak has been confirmed by the court, you must live separately in different houses. Originally the wife must stay in the house you live together while you the male must live somewhere, but nowadays most divorcee's rather live somewhere else, like their own personal house or their parents (balik kampung).

Muslimat (female muslims) can ask for divorce, but the power to divorce still resides with the husband.

Supposedly this is to prevent women from getting divorced by the simplest of things, since women are more emotional.

If woman wants a divorce from husband, I think it's termed as fasakh, the woman must compensate the husband (pay him off).

Say the woman mention something like "I want a divorce, I'll pay you RM1 million", if the husband agrees, they can go to court to finalize the divorce, then she can pay him off.
Inb4 syariah lawyer comes and schools /ktards on Islamic law....
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Oh ok... thanks.

If the man divorce the woman, he pays her $$$, and if the woman divorce the man, she pays him $$$ as compensation.

similar to civil divorce cases lol.

But if the woman has evidence of the man philandering, abusive, non committal to husband duties etc, then i think she dont need to compensate him right?


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post Jun 17 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(ayamkambing @ Jun 17 2010, 11:47 AM)
Oh ok... thanks.

If the man divorce the woman, he pays her $$$, and if the woman divorce the man, she pays him $$$ as compensation.

similar to civil divorce cases lol.

But if the woman has evidence of the man philandering, abusive, non committal to husband duties etc, then i think she dont need to compensate him right?
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A man when divorce a woman, pay alimony (nafkah in Malay). This is stipulated by law, even civil law I believe. That is beside the dividing of harta sepencarian (shared assets) etc....

Muslim women cannot divorce a man, but she can ask to be divorced, and offer some form of compensation, usually money. It's still up to the man to say the talak word and officially and legally divorce the wife. Sometimes the man may want something other than money, sometims he may keep the wife just to spite her etc...

On the third part, she has to prove in court that the man did not fulfill his duty, then she can get divorced by court order. That one I think no compensation.

Just because the man is womanising or keeping mistresses or married another woman behind her back but still fulfill his duties at home (give money, house, other things 'normally good husband' should do), will NOT get her a divorce.

There are lots of Arabic terms on what is what, I'm not syariah lawyer, but did take agama classes back in school, maybe someone else can add some info.


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oh noes!
there goes allowance to her families....
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post Jun 17 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 17 2010, 12:33 PM)
A man when divorce a woman, pay alimony (nafkah in Malay). This is stipulated by law, even civil law I believe. That is beside the dividing of harta sepencarian (shared assets) etc....

Muslim women cannot divorce a man, but she can ask to be divorced, and offer some form of compensation, usually money. It's still up to the man to say the talak word and officially and legally divorce the wife. Sometimes the man may want something other than money, sometims he may keep the wife just to spite her etc...

On the third part, she has to prove in court that the man did not fulfill his duty, then she can get divorced by court order. That one I think no compensation.

Just because the man is womanising or keeping mistresses or married another woman behind her back but still fulfill his duties at home (give money, house, other things 'normally good husband' should do), will NOT get her a divorce.

There are lots of Arabic terms on what is what, I'm not syariah lawyer, but did take agama classes back in school, maybe someone else can add some info.
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erm, how does syariah defines what is good husband? tongue.gif

if the husband is being unfaithful behind her, thats not fulfilling his duties as a husband.

And in cases where the husband seeks a 2nd wife, prior to that he would have had committed unfaithfulness by courting a woman not his wife, while still being married. Can the wife then seek injunction to nullify the marriage on such grounds?

Like in Bung Mokhtar, the wife can ask for divorce from him too.

But i feel that this isn't so fair to the woman la

Man that screws around behind her back seems ok. But if the woman goes court another man, than its haram hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Jun 17 2010, 12:49 PM)
wah...ayamkambing got alot of questions tongue.gif

but good oso at least we can learn the Malays perkahwinan and penceraian adat..Good Info thumbup.gif
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I'm surprised you people aren't curious about this tongue.gif

these are the things should be taught in school Moral, or Pengajian AM etc.
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reading this thread got me curious..

now i want to know MOAR!!11
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post Jun 17 2010, 01:07 PM

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You know, a lot of non-muslims are curious about Islam and Islamic law, but stupid Malaysian govt. always try to prevent them from learning.

Even if they learn and managed to get degree, they disallow them to use their knowledge, like case of Indian graduate who wants to practise syariah law besides civil law but cannot because she is not Muslim.

I hope you all take this with an open mind and not purposely trolling. Then we'll get real 1Malaysia as opposed to stupid BN propaganda and sloganeering....
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post Jun 17 2010, 01:16 PM

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so the wife will get half of the sultan's properties.
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i stumbled upon this http://www.ohbulan.com/hrh-pengiran-isteri...-sultan-brunei/
bruneians said azrinaz is a thief
she stole queen's crown but was get caught red handed
sudah kantoi tidak mahu insaf..lagi mencuri dan mencuri..T__T
sultan very murka but he's kind enough didn't jail her.
if this was true...
OMGeeee!!

tamak haloba. but who cares. she divorcee but oredi got millions dollar/pounds etc inside her bank account.

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