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post Jun 24 2010, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 10:15 AM)
oh..because i heard from my uncle that there were issues with 3rd party lenses not compatible with the latest software of the latest cameras and hence they became obsolete.. hmm.gif


Added on June 24, 2010, 10:17 am
i suggest u buy a 2nd hand lens ba...

maybe after i got my tammy can sell mine to u.. laugh.gif

its not worth the repair cost...
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either u missunderstood, or ur uncle outside misgear or misguide by 'seller/promoter'

it happened about 24-27 years ago, where, when the first AF firstly introduced. canon has to re-engineer the whole mount causing old lenses are unable to be used on the new body with AF, nikon stays with the same mount with minor modification, hence, during that era, canon loses a lot 'fan' and all jump to nikon. to make story short or being pass through 50 people, it becomes, "old lens cant use on new camera" =.=, partly, all u need is "adapter, or, perhaps u only can MF" thats all. BUT its RARE to find a >25 year old lens, mostly will get fungus because that era, drybox arent popular.
(maybe i was wrong and misunderstood ur statement)
and, today people ARE SMART, they wont build something to destroy old market(or maybe they will, like intel socket, LOL)... future camera are "backward compatible" meaning it WILL support older
chips" (like how we have 8 pins on the alphas, but still able to use 15 year old KM50mm with 5 pins)

*btw, sony have a minor share of Tamron, and tamron have given/share exclusive lens design to sony smile.gif and some of sony lens are tamron design smile.gif just some cosmetic changes. safe to say, tamron lens are pretty optimized for alphas tongue.gif

btw, i think the word u are looking for is backward compatibility, not reverse engineered. LOL, coz they sound 'back-wards' LOL.

lens backward engineered mean, they make lens only make mount/body. or it could mean, they try redesign similiar design of VR/IS or HSM/SSM from the existing design, which has no issue wor.

also, there is a STANDARD they follow on the each Mount. so, wont differ a lot.

This post has been edited by ieR: Jun 24 2010, 12:58 PM
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jun 24 2010, 12:10 PM)
wonka : Just pack your camera with you wherever you go and you can take pics lor... Anyway, can you really go back to a compact cam? I find that I can no longer tolerate the shortcomings of compact cams, especially the dismal low light performance...
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It will all depend on whether I can save up money or not end of this month. If I cant meaning that I will have to send it to garage sales. Hehehhe.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 24 2010, 12:22 PM)
not to mention slow focusing, missing out shots, harsh flash, white balance headaches, soft images.. U name it. then of coz, the size is pocketable..
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 12:42 PM)
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get NEX-5 la! is that compact enough? laugh.gif

the IQ of my kodak(RM400) compact is terrible as well even in broad day light. if u really need to switch to compact, i'd suggest you for high end compacts, eg.canon G12..gf1 etc....

but its really unnecessary to sell ur gears la...who knows u might need one day again? innocent.gif  innocent.gif
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Problem with it is I have a rather tight budget on getting a camera and I need to save up for something else. Im still thinking tho but I will make a decisions later this year. smile.gif
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jun 24 2010, 12:54 PM)
either u missunderstood, or ur uncle outside misgear or misguide by 'seller/promoter'

it happened about 24-27 years ago, where, when the first AF firstly introduced. canon has to re-engineer the whole mount causing old lenses are unable to be used on the new body with AF, nikon stays with the same mount with minor modification, hence, during that era, canon loses a lot 'fan' and all jump to nikon. to make story short or being pass through 50 people, it becomes, "old lens cant use on new camera" =.=, partly, all u need is "adapter, or, perhaps u only can MF" thats all. BUT its RARE to find a >25 year old lens, mostly will get fungus because that era, drybox arent popular.
(maybe i was wrong and misunderstood ur statement)
and, today people ARE SMART, they wont build something to destroy old market(or maybe they will, like intel socket, LOL)... future camera are "backward compatible" meaning it WILL support older
chips" (like how we have 8 pins on the alphas, but still able to use 15 year old KM50mm with 5 pins)

*btw, sony have a minor share of Tamron, and tamron have given/share exclusive lens design to sony smile.gif and some of sony lens are tamron design smile.gif just some cosmetic changes. safe to say, tamron lens are pretty optimized for alphas tongue.gif

btw, i think the word u are looking for is backward compatibility, not reverse engineered. LOL, coz they sound 'back-wards' LOL.

lens backward engineered mean, they make lens only make mount/body. or it could mean, they try redesign similiar design of VR/IS or HSM/SSM from the existing design, which has no issue wor.

also, there is a STANDARD they follow on the each Mount. so, wont differ a lot.
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i dun think he misunderstood la..he's been using an SLR right after form 6 and till now..about 25-30 years of experience?although he's a die hard canon user la. sweat.gif

and i think u misunderstood my statement..i was worrying about the change in firmware which won't accept older lenses(3rd party) as time passes..but thanks for explaining to AF and tamron shares thingy.. drool.gif ..very interesting knowledge.. laugh.gif

anyway i am just being too skeptical la... smile.gif


Added on June 24, 2010, 1:13 pm
QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 01:10 PM)
It will all depend on whether I can save up money or not end of this month. If I cant meaning that I will have to send it to garage sales. Hehehhe.
Problem with it is I have a rather tight budget on getting a camera and I need to save up for something else. Im still thinking tho but I will make a decisions later this year. smile.gif
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are u in a rush to shoot something important?

if not then just slowly save the money la..put the money into better use first...

who knows few months later NEX-4 or something will come out and u can get a cheaper NEX-5/G12? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 01:11 PM)
are u in a rush to shoot something important?

if not then just slowly save the money la..put the money into better use first...

who knows few months later NEX-4 or something will come out and u can get a cheaper NEX-5/G12? laugh.gif
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Not really in a rush to shoot. Just that I need to save up on something else. smile.gif
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 01:20 PM)
Not really in a rush to shoot. Just that I need to save up on something else. smile.gif
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hahahaha..then forget about the camera first la..or u need to sell ur camera to fund that 'something else'is it? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 01:34 PM)
hahahaha..then forget about the camera first la..or u need to sell ur camera to fund that 'something else'is it? unsure.gif
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I wanted to sell off to fund for my flight ticket to Japan. But if I were to sell off my gears, I wont have anything to use to shoot in Japan tho. Heheh.
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 01:36 PM)
I wanted to sell off to fund for my flight ticket to Japan. But if I were to sell off my gears, I wont have anything to use to shoot in Japan tho. Heheh.
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might as well u do more part time jobs or help take pics of events/wedding to earn the extra buck..

for me i'd rather not go for a holiday if i cannot bring a camera with me..these memories money also cannot buy one..



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Cant really do part times now cause my working time is slightly changing. Sometimes I even have to work on sat/sun.

My trip there would be only for a certain reason actually. Cause Im going alone. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 01:45 PM)
Cant really do part times now cause my working time is slightly changing. Sometimes I even have to work on sat/sun.

My trip there would be only for a certain reason actually. Cause Im going alone. smile.gif
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when are u going? cannot postpone the date? selling your gears might take some time too.. unsure.gif
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:51 PM

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Well not exactly know when yet but hopefully this year.
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post Jun 24 2010, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 01:51 PM)
Well not exactly know when yet but hopefully this year.
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blink.gif means still got time to fund for ur flight ticket la...keep ur gear la bro...not worth... tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2010, 02:01 PM

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Flight ticket + cash to spend there. smile.gif
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@wonka : sell off your gears all. then buy back some while at Japan whistling.gif . hoping tiket can get cheap nod.gif
anyways, how long r u staying there??

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jun 24 2010, 02:02 PM)
@wonka : sell off your gears all. then  buy back some while at Japan  whistling.gif . hoping tiket can get cheap  nod.gif
anyways, how long r u staying there??
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If I were to sell off, I wont go back anymore. Tickets are around RM2k+ through n flow. 1 thing I can save on is the accommodation. If I were to go also most probably from 5-7 days. Depending on how many days I can apply leave for. smile.gif
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do u have to go this year?

IMO u should start saving now until next year...then u can spend more money there..and save ur gear as well..
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Well I have to go before April next year tho. Thats the due date. I think I should think about this cause I really dont wanna sell off my gears but for some reasons I have to. Hehehe~
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Jun 24 2010, 02:20 PM)
Well I have to go before April next year tho. Thats the due date. I think I should think about this cause I really dont wanna sell off my gears but for some reasons I have to. Hehehe~
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cannot wait till march only go? icon_question.gif

hmm..whatever it is ...the final decision is urs... smile.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 24 2010, 02:43 PM)
cannot wait till march only go? icon_question.gif

hmm..whatever it is ...the final decision is urs... smile.gif
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Was planning to go on Jan or Feb for winter or April for sakura tho. Hhahaha.

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