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post Jun 25 2010, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(kunyit_kampung @ Jun 24 2010, 11:27 PM)
anybody know good gps app with voice guided
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Except Sygic? Ummm.... uhhh... ummmmmm, Sygic?

Hope Papago comes to the rescue with a QT version. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I IS THE NEEDING UPDATED MALAYSIAN MAPS!

Speed traps gone case edi, now I play by memory only lol.

@one1002: TV asso pening what kalau dekat2, even more so if the only TV I have nearby is a 30 inch flat screener. Unless, of course, I can use DLNA... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 25 2010, 01:52 AM)
Just to share with you guys.....so no need to do lots of search like i went thru.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Here's a Quick Guide on how to change your System Fonts:

Download the Font: Included is the Original N900 fonts.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fegr2o23u4d/n900fonts.rar

Those who are using 64bit that cannot use the Winscp or got problem...

Can use the same method below but using "GPE File Manager" (download via App Manager)
Make sure to Extract and put all the files in your Phone to any folder that you wish
Locate the Folder and replace the files accordingly


1. Connect your Nokia N900 via SSH
Go to: usr/share/fonts/nokia
You will see default Nokia Fonts:
nosnb.ttf
nosnr.ttf
nosns.ttf
nscnr.ttf

2. Copy all 4 Files (from Alba Folder in the Zip Attached)
nosnb.ttf
nosnr.ttf
nosns.ttf
nscnr.ttf

And replace the Original file in:
usr/share/fonts/nokia

Let it Load a while & reboot phone and reapply any widgets back to the homescreen if they are missing

The 4 font files apply to different parts of the phone
You can have 4 different fonts running at once for each interface....but i dont know which is which.... >.<

NOTE:
1. To apply a different font you must reapply the nokia original font first, (there included in the zip attached) and reboot phone,
then apply your font files and reboot

2. if you have another font type that you like to experiment with....Download the Font File, make 4 copies of it (if you wish to use the same) and rename it according to the 4 font name above and replace it. make sure you apply the original file before changing to the next font type. If not it will crash...that is what happened to me coz i forgot to reapply the original before replacing the new fonts....


Enjoys.....

*******Credits Goes to Leetut@maemo for the Files********

Last but not Least..... Experiment with your own risk...Will not be responsible for any damage caused. rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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This is the "dirty" way of doing it, but easier as EVERYTHING is changed. The cons is some UI elements and apps NEED the original Nokia Sans to work well. Otherwise text goes out of buttons, things become unreadable etc. etc.

Some. But it REPLACES Nokia Sans nontheless.

The "clean" way to do it is to mod the gtkrc file, either by editing the gtkrc file INSIDE the theme folder YOU ARE CURRENTLY USING, or buy using this handy script and the steps below it:

CODE
perl -pi -e "s/Nokia Sans/[B]Droid Sans[/B]/g" \
  /usr/share/themes/[B]alpha[/B]/gtk-2.0/gtkrc \
  /usr/share/themes/[B]alpha[/B]/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.input_method \
  /usr/share/themes/[B]alpha[/B]/matchbo*/theme.xml


1. Copy the code, paste in leafpad (or whatever editor you're using in the N900)
2. Substitute "alpha" with the name of your CURRENT THEME (the blue one is "alpha", the orange one "beta")
3. Substitute "Droid Sans" with whatever font you want (I use "Droid Sans Bold"). Tip: Use the fonts option in Terminal to see what fonts you have installed.
4. Run terminal, use "sudo gainroot" to... well... gain root.
5. Copy edited code from leafpad, paste into terminal.
6. Reboot.

NOTE: This script does NOT change the font in conversations. To do that, you need to edit /etc/hildon/theme/css/colors.css (the last section of the file) and specify your own font.

ALSO, only run once and reboot. Because it's useless after the first run that as script checks for "Nokia Sans" and replaces it. When you run it once, no more instances of "Nokia Sans" as it has all been replaced. For a second run (a new font change) you also have to change "Nokia Sans" to whatever font you have selected.

Pros: Does not replace default fonts.
Cons: Complex and more steps than "dirty" method. Need xterm knowledge. STILL will cause some strangeness in UI if you set the font size too big.

ALSO, font changing = boxes for CJK characters if the fonts ARE NOT UNICODE IINM. Keep in mind, but I'm not really sure.

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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 25 2010, 02:46 AM)
As they all says...

Theres a Dirty way and the Clean way...

My CMD knowledge a bit out...so i choose the dirty way....but it does the job...

Hehehehehhe...... >.<"
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Like I said, it's easier. Also, not that last line. I'm not sure if the fonts letut supplied are unicode, do check if any of your Chinese/Japanese/Korean filenames/songnames/messages/emails (if you have any) can still be displayed?

NOTE: The "Clean" way needs unicode fonts to display CJK characters as well.

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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 25 2010, 03:05 AM)
Hmmm....

Dint Notice bout the "Not Alphabet" fonts...coz i dont need them...

But so far messages, emails, song filenames, chats all ok...Dunno bout others but i dont quite need to use other then the "ABC" font...

refer the SS...

But there is a small Box beside the Day if you notice...

i wonder whats that...

checked....

its the -
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Ok then, seems it's not full unicode, but unicode enough lol... Should be okay.
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QUOTE(meLi @ Jun 25 2010, 08:57 PM)
me too...and 2 of my call holder broken when i recv it. Already reply to Askar Perang but never answer my email.  rclxub.gif
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Look like VLC player will support for N900 still in alpha but can try it http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/maemo/vlc/ still hv some bugs

TQ
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But the libs (mmg byk) are largely unoptified, so proceed with caution (and a huge free rootfs).

On the plus side, VLC seems to be able to use the DSP for video accelleration = fast video.
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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 25 2010, 09:22 PM)
I currently have :
Default Player
canola2 ui
SiB ui
Kmplayer ui
Mplayer

Dunno want to uninstall which...might not know when u need...lulz....

Still...if play RMVb...mesti ada delay...
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Just keep what you like lol. I'm left with Media Box and the defult player. Lol.
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Well, after too long fighting with the batt life, I finally relented and got myself an Xpal XP2000 (well the Energizer version really) and a mile of velcro tape. Now my N900 has more then twice the theoretical batt cap and twice the physical thickness lol.

It works well though, surprisingly. Though putting it in my pocket is a challange to say the least.
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In case nobody noticed, the LATEST Media Box update (26/6/10) is out and everything is pretty much spot on now, at least when it comes to video. Volume controls work perfect, video playlisting is as it should be.

I is the very happy now. Next, loading my Kyureii-Tan full of avi anime yeah!

Sure it's no VLC, but heck, PROPER VIDEO PLAYLISTS with the DSP accelerated default back end weh! I've been waiting for an app that does this since my 5800 days.

Now, to tell it to play through VLC hmmmm. It can already use Mplayer IINM.

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QUOTE(jananan @ Jun 28 2010, 01:20 PM)
rubber wont work. because the n900 slider mechanism not same like n97. 97 goes up, but n900 slides out straight. rubber would be too thick. and no place for the case to latch on the bottom part.
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They actually have them on Ebay, both RESIN AND SILICONE. Strange thing is, there's only TWO GUYS in ebay selling the Resin case, and one online shop is outta stock.

Which is strange.

I needs me resin case NOW... Don't make me go Otter HAAA...

@angelbrats: Your Ottercase has a snug fit? Does the silicone bit latch on to the phone or the hard plastic bit? I was wondering about this.
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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jun 28 2010, 03:48 PM)
refer the image....

Its just a layer of silicon....placing it in between the case and your phone...

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How does it stay secure on the phone then? That's what I'm wondering... hmm.gif

Might just get an Ottercase and make a hole for the lanyard. But must make sure it's a tight fit first, because I abuse my electronics (hence the need for cases).

Which, incidentally, the N900 is pretty abuse friendly for the extremely smart phone it is.
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QUOTE(dexth @ Jun 28 2010, 05:12 PM)
So fas has been very impressed with this phone but battery is weak. only managed 11 hours with some wifi downaloding, surfing and playing around. It seem wifi sucked up a lot of bat, and also need to disable wifi power saving, else i keep getting no connection after like 1 min which is not practical.
One question if sifu can help me here. how do i setup yahoo mail? pre define yahoo plus doesnt work. hotmail work flawlessly.

thanks!
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11 hours is weak? Try 4-5 hours lol, that's what I get with constant heavy 3G use... biggrin.gif

11 hours is plenty... If that isn't enough, there's always:

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Lotsa Velcro tape + Energi To Go XP2000 + Epik Rubber Case + Cheapo Nokia MicroUSB dumb charger wire = EXTRA POWER CASE. More then once the raw batt cap, translates to an extra 5 hours of heavy use or so.

Thinking to get another XP2000 for quick power reload if need arises.

In which case, there's always my HUGE 3400mah batt pack as backup lol (and also the EVEN HUGER 8000mah one, which is hard to charge up actually, so it's dead most of the time). Though with that it becomes REALLY hard to hold lol.

As a bonus, it stands on its own now without kickstand, perfect to play anime long time.

Off topic: I've broken ALL of my Mugen/Epik rubberised hard cases except 1 (4 broken lol)... I REALLY NEED RESIN CASE NOW, or KotakMemerang!

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QUOTE(dasonyeoh @ Jun 28 2010, 08:43 PM)
Mine epik case also break d...need to use double sided tape d...aiks

BTW how much is your  Energi To Go XP2000
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RM160 something. Xpal XP2000 also can, same thing. Hard to find 2000mah packs with perfect dimensions to fit on the back of the N900.

As a result, I could use the camera fine even WITH the pack in place. Not so with the big 3400mah pack.

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QUOTE(jananan @ Jun 29 2010, 07:13 AM)
like Andy214 said, you might need to short the usb pins D+ and D- responsible for the data, pin 2 & 3 that is, the two in the middle. according the articles on the internet, the n900 would detect it as a charger and take advantage of the external power pack if it can supply more than 500mw.
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Lol. Even if I have a 10000mah power pack, that does not change the the fact that most battery packs ONLY supply 500ma/5v through the USB port anyway, as per the specs outlined by the USB consortium.

As for the rest, it's a bit tl:dr (and I might be wrong about this) but here goes...

The mah does not determine charging speed, it's just an estimation of capacity at a given output IINM, which for most battery packs is 5v.

I'm gonna talk in MA now, and IINM, 1ma = miliampere so please convert accordingly.

Okay, how fast DOES the external battery pack charge an N900. From a full dead battery --> full battery (assuming the N900 is turned off), it should take 2-4 hours IINM. But that doesn't really matter, because the MAIN use of the battery pack in my usage scenario is to EXTEND N900 use time, which it does pretty well.

Okay the battery pack 2000mah, with simple calculations that should give the N900 2x the battery life. In practical use, power is also lost through the USB connection (it's not terribly efficient) in the form of heat and such, and that takes some of the power away.

Also, we must take into account how much power the N900 eats up and how much the battery pack can supply (which in this case is 500ma/5v). I'm assuming the N900 uses less then 500ma per hour (and looking at the battery and run time I'd estimate it to be in the vacinity of 200-350ma under full 3G load. 4 hours and 1300mah = 1300/4 = 325ma per hour).

That means that the battery pack is topping off an excess 100-200ma per hour (500ma supplied, +-300ma being used) and this extra power goes to charge the N900 internal battery. Also, the USB battery pack has limited capacity, thus under full load with the internal battery al 40%, the N900 will most likely drain the pack long BEFORE it can charge the N900 battery to full.

Take into consideration the AC charger supplies 1000ma/5v, that's an extra 600 frigging ma over worst case scenario use (300ma), which is why the AC charger charges the N900's internal battery so quickly. The car charger is also 500ma/5v but it's backed by your car engine = unlimited supply; in other words it's slow but will top up the N900 battery to full given enough time.

Thus charging up the N900 battery with a USB battery pack while under heavy load will be extremely slow, but it DOES extend running time of the device by quite a while, although less then the raw capacity would lead you to believe.

If you want it to charge faster, find a 1000ma/5v usb battery pack (google for Axim compatible USB battery pack) or a iPad compatible battery pack.

AND DON'T FORGET a dumb charger wire with the data pins shorted out (otherwise you're getting no more then 100ma, IF you get any power at all to begin with).

Or sometthing. My electro-speak is rusty lol.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 29 2010, 09:23 AM)
Even if it may you provide sufficient charging compared to a actual charger, but it can still provide little charging when you're using the phone. Not sure about 3G but in GSM/2.5G mode if you plug in those external power pack charger and you're using your phone, it's stil capable of charging and increasing your battery mah.

Lately, I've been streaming HD videos through N900 to my TV as N900 is not capable of playing HD videos, specifically HD MKV files with vbr. It consume more power than usual, but when I plugin the DC-11 charger, it's still capable of increasing the battery mah while streaming. I think it's good enough, it's an portable charger after all. Of course, if it can do better, it'll be better, but what I'm trying to say is, at least, it's acceptable or good enough.

Btw, when using mplayer under KMPlayer, it's using the processor instead of DSP (if I remembered correctly) and it'll drain your battery much faster too.
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Using 3G it will charge, but much slower due to increased consumption (read above). IINM consumption governs how fast you can charge, and the N900 (unlike the Axim and iPad) doesn't eat more then 500 ma at any given time (the Axim eats like what, 900ma?).

Again a larger mAh (or mah, or MAH) only lasts longer. It does not necessarily charge faster (unless it specifically outputs 1000ma/5v).

I do 3/3.5G while charging through the battery pack all the time. It just doesn't charge the internal battery that fast.

Which reminds me, does the DC-11 provide 500ma/5v output? I can't seem to find any data on that. Some battery packs are known to ONLY provide 250ma/5v = even slower charging (and in the case of the N900, no charging at all at full 3G load), and the DC-11 is well known to have charging problems with the N900 to begin with.

Also there's the problem of reverse trickle. Like water in osmosis, battery power moves from higher cap to lower cap, and that becomes a problem when the external battery pack is a extremely low power levels. For instance ext. batt pack at 10% and int. batt pack at 80%.

With modern power circuits, no reverse trickle happens (it's blocked), but the external battery pack no longer charges your phone.

And yeah, mplayer is not DSP friendly. VLC IS IINM. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 29 2010, 10:09 AM)
I heard this USB power issue is part of the reason why USB Host on N900 bit difficult.
Seems like N900 cannot provide enough current to power up external device.
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That's a different issue, it's the N900 outputting power to an external device. What we're talking about is the other way around - an external power source providing power to the N900, which actually might help with the USB issue as well.

An external power pack can help provide the power needed for devices that need more power then the N900's port is able to provide.

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QUOTE(jananan @ Jun 29 2010, 01:13 PM)
that would require a usb hub, correct me if i am mistaken ?
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A POWERED usb hub. We can hack the hub's usb wire and saparate it into two, a power connector to the battery pack and a microUSB data connector to the N900.

OR for Ext HDDs (2.5 and 1.8 inchers anyway), the split wires on some of the older ones would serve almost the same purpose, I think, leaving one connector for power and the other one for data + a proper microUSB to female USB adaptor.

But really, hub or no hub, all the N900 needs is a properly powered USB port to provide the USB device with 500ma or something like that (currently the N900's port can only output 200ma IINM), so a split wire used as per above with a female USB connector should work as well - provided the host patch is made to work consistantly.

Theoretically anyway, USB host support is still not finalized, so we can't really be sure.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 29 2010, 02:56 PM)
Resin case finally coming...

Let's say if Nokia removed all OVI things from N900,what OVI things that you guys will miss?
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Thanks on the resin case update. I need two at least, on my last Epik Rubberized case (all other 4 broke edi).

And Ovi? I'll miss the weird name lol, but I also use Ovi share quite a bit.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 29 2010, 05:46 PM)
Nope.It'll be the exact opposite.
All the MeeGo source codes will be fully open except for the Nokia stuff like OVI.
This has been confirmed by people working on Harmattan/MeeGo project.

Back too MeeGo.
Why most of people seems to a very low expectation on tomorrows release?
I on the other hand have reasonably good expectation on 1.1 release.
After all this is not some brand new OS release.It's sort of like improved version(hopefully) of Maemo 5(freemantle).
There will be lots of change & crash here & there.But I'm hoping for fully functional OS.
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Well... I'm eagerly waiting too... BUT:

1) I have a sinking feeling it won't be dual boot.
2) Due to No. 1, I'll be losing my apps/overclocked kernel/customization.
3) There will be an even worse app situation in the beginning (like, what apps?)

But if they take care of (1) I WILL try it out. It's new, it's shiny, and it's Meego! Shame they're planning to ditch MicroB later...

As for the previous battery pack conversation, THE ONLY battery pack I know of which provides 1000ma/5v output = GILA LAJU RECHARGE EVEN WHILE USING 3G while still fitting in your pocket: http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_...erseries_9.html

I drooled a lot for one back in my Axim days - it was the only thing that could charge the Axim AND the battery while using the Axim. Shame it's not easily available locally and the thickness/weight is ridiculous (it's like what, TWO TIMES the thickness of the XP2000).

Plus I actually got the XP2000 as a gift lol.

@super_evil_alien: It's called throttling/step down. Or something lol.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 30 2010, 12:07 AM)
I don't have extra micro sd card.Need to buy later.

Sent via Nokia 3310
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Crap, need an extra microSD for Meego...

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Well a new day here, +12 hours to go before it's 30th in the US. Or something. Unless Nokia/Meego Consortium decides we need another PR1.2 wait.

Sent via THE IBM Simon

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THE first real touchscreen smartphone. We have come a long way eh, guys?

But really, that thing already had onscreen QWERTY AND predictive text... I mean, it was 1992 man, that's just nuts.

Plus you can hold it anyway you like, even with an external antenna. Beat that Stevie.

I wonder how the battery life was like though.

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