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post Apr 27 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Apr 27 2012, 10:12 PM)
Base oil and additive is a chemistry...  Just like nasi lemak, you need good rice and nice sambal..
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Yap. Just because you got super rice (Synthetic Base Oil) does not automatically mean you will get great Nasi Lemak. And regardless of what sort of rice (Synthetic or Mineral Base Oil) you use, the amount of Sambal (additives) you get are the same, hence same depletion rate.

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post Apr 27 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Apr 27 2012, 11:43 PM)
you got the point.. But even for the case of mineral, I prefer group 2 and above base oil.. I had been to a few lube blending plant, some oil I will avoid using.. Just like the case of nasi lemak.. Good ingredient but lousy cook..
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My personal favorite is the Delo 400 15W40 using Isosyn base oil. It's probably better than normal Group II. Very cheap in 18 liter packing.


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post Apr 28 2012, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Apr 28 2012, 04:17 AM)
I think we are in the same frequency , caltex delo 400 15w/40 API CI-4/SL, come with chevron hydro isomerise base oil. Isosyn = iso synthetic. This oil come with good viscosity index, some moly and adequate TBN no. I buy 200 liter drum. But at caltex station, 5 liter pack cost quite alot. Cheers.
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Late 90's. I started using Delo400 because it's the ONLY generally available oil in Malaysia that has JASO DHD-1 specification. Compared to Synthetic but for our tropic, probably just as good at dirt cheap give away price.



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post May 1 2012, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Apr 29 2012, 12:53 AM)
I use delo 400 in my camry now..
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How old is your Camry? While it can be used, not many uses it for petrol engine.


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QUOTE(ClarkFann @ May 1 2012, 01:08 AM)
can anyone tell me 10W40 and 15W40 which type is better?

currently im using VOLTRONIC 15W40 for my 22's old carburetor saga sedan.

and i dont know 10W40 is better or 15W40?coz the workshop mechanic

took 15W40 for my car. unsure.gif
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15W40 should be fine.

But if you want to use 10w40, make sure you use a good brand and they are more expensive than 15W40. I don't see the need to spend extra money for your old car.


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post May 6 2012, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ May 5 2012, 12:23 PM)
I said countless times already, i blew my engine with magnatec. Big nono
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If using correct grade and viscosity, shouldn't happen. Something else must have caused that. Fake oil?

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post May 6 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ May 6 2012, 09:58 PM)
i am slightly confuse after reading the debate on mineral oil and FS OCI (i assume oil change interval?)

So what's exactly the benefit of FS over mineral if both is actually better be changed at 5k? as it sounds like contaminant is more of a reason to change oil rather than the protection wearing off...
the cost of FS is a lot higher.. a bit concern coz the car manual stated FS and oil change every 10k...
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You use FS if:
1. You drive a super car like a Ferrari or BMW etc.
2. You use it in the cold arctic or Antarctica.
3. You use it in the hot Sahara desert.
4. You want slightly better fuel economy, not more than 5%.

If not, IMO, it is a waste of money to use FS for normal car used in normal circumstances. And I am sure people selling those to you make more profit.


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post May 7 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(huakenny @ May 7 2012, 09:48 AM)
my estima, wish, myvi etc also running with different brand of fully synthetic engine oil... i dun see the problems at all

even at the same level of grade, i do believe the oil quality for mineral,semi and fully is different.

if u r driving an old car wit FS, then it may consider a waste of money.

if u r driving a newer gen of vehicles and running wit mineral oil, i think you are abusing it  blush.gif
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Never used any FS in any of our new cars and have never encountered any engine oil related problem. Never.

But if I am driving in the Cold Arctic or hot Sahara desert or a Ferrari, I will use FS.




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post May 7 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(huakenny @ May 7 2012, 04:06 PM)
different ppl different though bro...maybe u prefer non-fs

but i only stick to fs.... blush.gif all my trans/axle fluid are wit synthetic...nothing is mineral based

but of coz, it all depends on what car you are driving to decide what engine oil to use. i.e i dun see a point for you to use FS oil that cost over rm200 in an old iswara....which not so applicable...and if u r driving vellfire/estima/alphard....i dun think u will use mineral oil to the engine also.

as i refer bc to my vehicle recommendation for engine oil..its written : " it is essential to choose the correct grade, quality and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance"..."if the recommended oil is not available, other oil may be used, however, some performance loss may be noticed"
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Not a single mention on FS or Mineral.

Of course, if one has plenty of money, can also change oil everyday if they wanted to. Definitely better than changing every 3 months.



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post May 7 2012, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ May 7 2012, 07:49 PM)
I'm with Huakenny. Different people have different take on this. Ran 4 years FS OCI 10k during my NA years. Stripped the engine to checked the engine component, it's still golden new and coated with lube. Oil pan also clean. My 1st attempt on Mineral lasted short.
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Well, we have used Mineral on several turbo diesel (tougher on oil than gasoline) and never have problem. OCI was supposed to be 5K but sometime no time to change oil so went to 10K at times. When sold at 500K (other parts of the car are starting to fail), still not consuming any engine oil and never gave any problem so never bother to open up to see what the inside is like. So we never see any need to spend extra on FS.

BTW, we use very good quality Mineral (Delo400). Never Cap Ayam brand or from questionable outlet for fear of fake oil.



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post May 7 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ May 7 2012, 08:16 PM)
Where to buy Delo400 in 18L / 20L packing ?
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Why not contact Caltex to find who sell it in your area? I think Tan Chong motor is one of their dealer.
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post May 8 2012, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(huakenny @ May 8 2012, 01:58 PM)
it written fully syn mobil 1...just i didnt state it out..as that only for my car model... Mobil 1 0w40 (100% Synthetic based)....of coz, this one i dig from my Nissan GTR R35 manual

if 0w40 not available, then Mobil 1 10w40 (100% synthetic based) may be used
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GTR is not your normal Proton.

As for 0W... oil, only FS has those figure.

For normal car, I never come across a car manufacturer specifying FS. Even those huge turbo charged Scania truck says Mineral is OK.


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post May 9 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(huakenny @ May 9 2012, 09:30 AM)
that y i said....it all depends on car manufacturer.....this is not a Ferrari or Lambo as u said, but a normal JDM Sports car. it required FS too
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I could never understand why people driving Proton or Toyota Vios or Honda City or Perodua etc using FS. Those are the normal car I am referring to.

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QUOTE(sarjantulang @ May 28 2012, 05:33 PM)
as salam,
Car: Proton Saga BLM 2008
MA: 106000++ km

last change EO: December 2011

now clocking more than 16000km with Petro-Canada Duron XL 15w40....last service 89360km...now MA already 106000km++

very satisfied with the performance of the eo.... rclxms.gif

will send the eo for UOA....
next: Petro-Canada Duron Fully Syn 5w40....

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Proof that you don't need Fully Synthetic oil. I have always believe if you use a good quality Mineral, it should be fine.
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post May 30 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ May 30 2012, 11:14 AM)
Ok . Mind to share which model of Torco ? Can I mix Torco with the Liquid Moly Cera Tec ? What does it mean Long-term effect up 50,000KM , does it mean I don't need to change My Engine Oil until 50,000KM or It still can take care my engine although I flush my engine oil out ( during changing oil )?  I am newbie on engine oil , someone help to can guide me ?

Currently I using Shell Helix HX7 10W-40, is it good ?

Mind to tell me any shop in Penang selling Torco and Liqui Moly ?
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Doing that is like going to two famous Nasi Lemak stall, bought Nasi Lemak from both stall and then mix them together. Final taste may be better or may be worst. What for?


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post May 30 2012, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 30 2012, 06:17 PM)
TR 5 semi syn

and yes i have ceratec and torco together too, no problem. ceratec costs your engine parts and last for 50k km, means you dont have to "reapply" ceratec until the next oil change around 50k km later. and no, you still need to change your engine oil regularly, just that when you change, ceratec still sticks to your engine.

shell helix is by no means bad, however it is a cheaper mainstream oil, so you get what you paid for.

no idea on penang shops
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This is the part I never could understand.

If the surface is dry etc, you can make thing stick to the surface easy. But the inside of the engine are full of slippery oil and it is practically impossible to make anything stick to it unless under very high pressure or temperature of vacuum etc. So how does this ceratec manage to stick to the surface? Sounded more like voodoo magic to me.
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post May 31 2012, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 30 2012, 07:11 PM)
the compound is ceramic based and bears an orange color. opening engine oil cap and looking inside would allow you to see said orange colored liquid/things on the engine. if that isn't convincing enough, im not sure what else is smile.gif

of course there are some more fact/tech spec based explanation, id just leave it to you to read it from their site or google.
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Sure you see the orange stuff there. Try scrapping them off and see whether it comes off easily or not. If it does, then how can it properly cost the engine parts to do what it claim it can?

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post May 31 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 31 2012, 08:57 AM)
um, it's not glue, how is it supposed to be permanently stuck on your engine if you're going to go purposely scrape it off? it does require re-application every 50k km or so, which should be a good enough indication that it is not permanent.

personally, you spend maybe rm170 for 50k km, take 5k km per oil change and thats 10 oil change and its just rm17 per oil change. difference you can feel in your daily drive, and visible effect (like i said, open up your engine oil cap and look inside) that the material is coating your engine parts (unlike some engine oil claims like *coughcastrolmagnetateccough* ) properly.

i dont mind and i can afford rm17 per oil change. if it didnt work, i consider it a waste of rm170 or rm17/oil change. no big deal. "sadly", it does work and i think i will be sticking to it smile.gif
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Too many snake oil in the market. 99% are useless and some even cause more damage than good.

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post Jun 1 2012, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ May 31 2012, 05:31 PM)
yes it can be mixed with any oil


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Active chemical bonding agent. What about Magnatec?
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Possible but unlikely. Engine and oil are designed to prevent that from happening in the 1st place.

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post Jun 5 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jun 1 2012, 12:30 PM)
i see. then what about coatings such as http://www.wpctreatment.com/  ? They get scrapped off too?
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Never bother with any such product because 99% of those metal treatment product are snake oil. Do a google on 'snake oil' for engine and find out for yourself.
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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Jun 18 2012, 09:53 PM)
for gear oil..can use GL5 oil instead of GL4 oil on 4g13 gearbox?

need a real experience here since many gear oil GL5 claim that can replace or suitable with gearbox with GL4 oil  rclxub.gif
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I think GL5 contains higher sulfur and should not be used where GL4 is being specified. Or is it the other way around? You best check it out.



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