Outline ·
[ Standard ] ·
Linear+
Engine Oil Reviews, What engine oil have u used so far
|
jason4883
|
Dec 2 2011, 07:40 AM
|
|
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 2 2011, 01:32 AM) Best time to check is right before u start ur engine for the first time of the day...aka after the engine has been off for several hours...which is usually in the morning Hence, I can conclude that the best condition & time to check the engine oil level are : Engine is off and has been off for several hours. But for my case - dipstick can't see any oil level when engine is off, meaning the oil level is real low. This means there is oil leaking. Any symptom that will have strong point of this leaking scenario? For eg engine valve cover area shows oil leak?
|
|
|
|
|
|
vr2turbo
|
Dec 2 2011, 09:31 AM
|
New Member
|
I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also. At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning. Added on December 2, 2011, 9:32 amQUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Dec 2 2011, 03:30 AM) I have a question; I am currently using Shell branded engine oil, which has the so-called cleaning properties inside the oil to clean up the engine nicely... (Which I really like.) But are there also other brand(s) of engine oils out there that also offers this cleaning/cleansing properties inside their oils (just like Shell)? Please recommend if you know. Thanks a lot in advance. All major brands have the additives added to clean also...... This post has been edited by vr2turbo: Dec 2 2011, 09:32 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jajay Chong Hon Keat
|
Dec 2 2011, 09:49 AM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(xMika @ Jul 25 2010, 12:15 PM) 10km service intervals ? You must damn free to do this lol  Or Castrol sucks ?  Too much money to burn... Change engine oil more than refill petrol >.<
|
|
|
|
|
|
jason4883
|
Dec 2 2011, 09:52 AM
|
|
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 2 2011, 09:31 AM) I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also.
At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning.
However, if there is leaking, there should b oil mark at the engine area... But mine there isn't any. That's why I am confuse...where did the oil goes. Really get evaporated due to high temp?
|
|
|
|
|
|
huakenny
|
Dec 2 2011, 12:48 PM
|
|
jason4883,
wat engine oil grade u r using? if the engine oil will reduce over time. mean u use the wrong grade of engine oil....
let us know wat grade engine oil n what car u r running
|
|
|
|
|
|
KIntos
|
Dec 2 2011, 02:05 PM
|
|
QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 09:52 AM) However, if there is leaking, there should b oil mark at the engine area... But mine there isn't any. That's why I am confuse...where did the oil goes. Really get evaporated due to high temp? probably yes since you using fully syn. You may have to try semi syn. When you engine hot and oil evaporated, you should notice white smoke come out when you open your oil engine cap if im not wrong.
|
|
|
|
|
|
kEITh_22b
|
Dec 2 2011, 06:17 PM
|
Getting Started

|
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 2 2011, 09:31 AM) I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also. At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning. Added on December 2, 2011, 9:32 amAll major brands have the additives added to clean also......  Thanks. I have also been informed by some experts that the greater the stretch between the viscosity "numbers" of the oil; also means that the quicker the additives inside the oil will break down... For example, it is not recommended to use engine oil with an (extreme) viscosity number (range) like 0W - 50, 5W - 50, & 10W - 60 as such... (Unless you change them more frequently...) They recommend viscosity numbers in the "closer" range like 5W - 30, 10W - 30, 15W - 40, & 20W - 50 as such... (For longer lasting protection; because the protecting-additives will not break down as quickly as the other oils when subjected to prolonged high temperature... Once the protecting-additives breaks down, the oil loses it's protection capability.) This post has been edited by kEITh_22b: Dec 2 2011, 06:18 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
vr2turbo
|
Dec 2 2011, 10:38 PM
|
New Member
|
If the engine is old and you use to light a viscosity the oil can slip through at higher revs into the combustion chamber and gets burnt off a little at a time. This way there will not be any smoke as it becomes a clean burn off, so engine oil level will reduce over long mileage.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
sg999
|
Dec 3 2011, 09:41 AM
|
|
campro suitable if using Q8 10-W40?
|
|
|
|
|
|
GrandReign1978
|
Dec 3 2011, 09:44 AM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jun 20 2011, 09:05 PM) I've used Mobil 1, Shell, Motul, Torco and some other crap oils. If you ask me, Torco SR-1 is the best I've used so far. No doubt it's expensive but your car really feels lighter and smoother acceleration. Mobil 1 is good as well but Shell is hopeless among these 3. Hi bro How much one 4L bottle?
|
|
|
|
|
|
huakenny
|
Dec 3 2011, 10:06 AM
|
|
QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 3 2011, 09:41 AM) campro suitable if using Q8 10-W40? can...the most ppl using in kl Added on December 3, 2011, 10:07 amQUOTE(GrandReign1978 @ Dec 3 2011, 09:44 AM) Hi bro How much one 4L bottle? torco should be rm2xx for 4L fully syn 10,000km oil change interval. Lucas fully syn also good. price bout the same range Q8 is little bit cheaper, but its still a good oil. both torco n Q8 distributed under same company here This post has been edited by huakenny: Dec 3 2011, 10:07 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
jasondotcom
|
Dec 3 2011, 10:55 AM
|
|
QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 12:33 AM) I hope this is the right thread to raise my inquiry here after I have search through F&F section. Would like to ask SIFUsss here... What is the right procedure to check the engine oil level (by checking the dipstick)? Or should I say when is the right time to check that? Start or do not start the engine and check? Cause I have this scenario :- i. If the engine is off, I can't see any oil level when I take out the dipstick. ii. If the engine is running, when I pull out the dipstick, I can see the engine oil level is near to the lowest level. P/S - I am using fully syn engine oil and currently only clocks 5,500km. By right it should able to sustain till 8,000km of mileage, at least. 1. Engine must be left off for AT LEAST 5 mins for oil level check. But best done first thing in the morning OR half an hour or hours later.
2. If engine running, no way you will get an accurate reading as the oil is pumped all over inside the engine for lubrication of parts.
3. If engine is in perfect mint condition, it barely consume any engine oil even when it reaches 10k KM. QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 01:22 AM) 1. If your engine underwent a lot of mileage in its life time, yes, most probably the engine is consuming oil OR leak.
2. Best to observe what is probably wrong with it. The first start of the engine in the morning, have someone or perhaps you standing behind and observe the exhaust emission (as soon as it starts). If there are blue smoke (even a little) then yes, your engine's valve seals are slack causing oil to seep through. And, if there are blue smoke while driving, most probably your engine's valve seals are gone OR piston rings are gone. And if there are blue smoke when you full throttle it..... same thing...... valve seals and piston rings.
3. If not, then there are possibility the oil is completely burnt even before exiting the car's exhaust. Have to monitor closely.
4. Most obvious (or not in some car models) engine oil leaks around the engine head, block and bottom.QUOTE(chemistry @ Dec 2 2011, 03:16 AM) A few days ago I changed engine oil at a workshop. After pouring some, he turned on engine and checked dipstick oil level. The dipstick showed it was one-third full. Then he topped up again, checked dipstick again...until full. but then, this morning i checked oil level before start engine, the level was 30% above FULL. Had the foreman used the correct method ?? Any side effect if the oil is too much ?? 1. First of all, this is the biggest mistakes MOST MECHANICS be it bawah pokok types and those "trained" ones from dealers. Never ever ever ever refill the engine oil to max level during oil changes. Never ever. It will always be overfilled the next time you check (eg. hours later or first think in the morning) I guarantee it will overfill. This is because, once engine oil is drained and refilled.... oil needs to travel through all the oil channels at the top of the engine, through a number of them in order to reach the bottom of the engine where the end of the dip stick is. Therefore, most mechs will immediately pull the dip stick right after refill which is completely wrong. Some will start the engine for the oil to circulate around and into the oil filter, shut down and immediately check the dip stick is also very wrong and inaccurate.
2. Best method will be after refill to about almost max and then start the engine for about 10 seconds and shut it down. Let it rest for about 5 mins AT LEAST. And then pull out the dip stick to check. And, next thing is..... do not refill to max. Just level it just under the max line or in between the mid and max line is perfect... as mentioned earlier, engine oil travels throughout the engine before actually reaches the bottom.....it takes a little time for the oil to settle.
3. Thicker engine oils eg. 20w 50 will take a longer time to settle down compared to thinner oils like 5w-30. QUOTE(KIntos @ Dec 2 2011, 02:05 PM) probably yes since you using fully syn. You may have to try semi syn. When you engine hot and oil evaporated, you should notice white smoke come out when you open your oil engine cap if im not wrong. 1. A bit of smoke coming out of the filler hole is quite normal when its very hot.... But not too much though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
jason4883
|
Dec 3 2011, 01:09 PM
|
|
QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 2 2011, 12:48 PM) jason4883, wat engine oil grade u r using? if the engine oil will reduce over time. mean u use the wrong grade of engine oil.... let us know wat grade engine oil n what car u r running Currently using HKS fully syn oil. Previously used Valvoline (mineral) & Torco SR-1 b4. All same scenario. Added on December 3, 2011, 1:13 pmQUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 3 2011, 10:55 AM) 1. If your engine underwent a lot of mileage in its life time, yes, most probably the engine is consuming oil OR leak. 2. Best to observe what is probably wrong with it. The first start of the engine in the morning, have someone or perhaps you standing behind and observe the exhaust emission (as soon as it starts). If there are blue smoke (even a little) then yes, your engine's valve seals are slack causing oil to seep through. And, if there are blue smoke while driving, most probably your engine's valve seals are gone OR piston rings are gone. And if there are blue smoke when you full throttle it..... same thing...... valve seals and piston rings. 3. If not, then there are possibility the oil is completely burnt even before exiting the car's exhaust. Have to monitor closely. 4. Most obvious (or not in some car models) engine oil leaks around the engine head, block and bottom.[/color] [color=red] Most probably my engine is consuming engine oil. There is no oil leakage stain around my engine bay (at least from where I can view). I have changed engine's valve seals b4 this. If piston rings are gone, for sure there will be blue smoke out of my exhaust. So far, there is no blue smoke out of my exhaust. This is for sure. This post has been edited by jason4883: Dec 3 2011, 01:13 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
huakenny
|
Dec 3 2011, 06:14 PM
|
|
check compression lo to confirm....
if the grade currently suing now still decrease, then u gotta use higher grade to reduce the oil burn
|
|
|
|
|
|
vr2turbo
|
Dec 3 2011, 08:31 PM
|
New Member
|
Already on FS which is higher grade already, should be higher viscosity.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
jason4883
|
Dec 4 2011, 04:54 AM
|
|
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 3 2011, 08:31 PM) Already on FS which is higher grade already, should be higher viscosity..... So if currently using 5W-40, then I should try 10W-40 or 15W-40 for my next engine oil change?
|
|
|
|
|
|
huakenny
|
Dec 4 2011, 09:36 AM
|
|
QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 4 2011, 04:54 AM) So if currently using 5W-40, then I should try 10W-40 or 15W-40 for my next engine oil change? the grade before W is for cold start.....not much affected.... u should use xW50 if xW40 still cant perform well......
|
|
|
|
|
|
vr2turbo
|
Dec 4 2011, 09:54 AM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 4 2011, 09:36 AM) the grade before W is for cold start.....not much affected.... u should use xW50 if xW40 still cant perform well...... Yup, correct. Probably need 10w-50, but 50 weight less in the market unless 5w-50. 10w-40 mostly SS 15w-40 may be mineral already.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
jason4883
|
Dec 4 2011, 02:24 PM
|
|
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 4 2011, 09:54 AM) Yup, correct. Probably need 10w-50, but 50 weight less in the market unless 5w-50. 10w-40 mostly SS 15w-40 may be mineral already..... It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market... Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
vr2turbo
|
Dec 4 2011, 08:19 PM
|
New Member
|
QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 4 2011, 02:24 PM) It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market... Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on. Yup, better find the cause first as 5w-40 and 10w-40 are the most common FS and SS oil in the market..... This post has been edited by vr2turbo: Dec 5 2011, 07:48 AM
|
|
|
|
|