ask admin about this.. Why submit one day before the dateline? Cox I sked if they close the "kelompok" before dateline.. Who knows...

ask admin? i submit via ptptn website. do u mean call ptptn?
i submit one day before deadline bacause i really forgot...

nolar. Cox is under Admin when is the closing date for the PTPTN application. After u ask admin if everything is ok, then only u call PTPTN. If u call PTPTN straight, they might tell u to ask admin.

Dear Mr Farhan

I from the beginning express my disappointment when SRC dont have a clear and defined objective, which till now mr president have yet to give me an answer regarding it. Not to mention false declaration

MMU is a private university, not a public UNI.. We pay full our fees and expect facilities better than a public university. IF MMU cant provide it, then where the justification of higher fee compared to normal public university course ? it not spoiled, it called "making our every penny worth it" I also challenged the president to park his car at the new parking area for a month or two, if he agree it still ok, then i am sorry and shall eat back my words. His refusal to reply about, so i assuming he not up to the challenge

Should i apply that challenge to you too ? Being a senior longer than you should as you claimed, you must have know where is the best parking spots and times around campus. Sure it will not be challenge to you, right ?

I also ask where the improvement as mentioned in the implementation of IT fees ? There nothing to be shown ! Melaka network is still old as you claimed ( It almost 2 years since IT fee is started, freaking 2 years and NOTHING ?) Now where the money goes ? Internet improvement ? Dear Mr Farhan, have you try using the internet last sem in campus ? Great speed till youtube cant even load Tarik Fiber ? come melaka campus and show me new fiber line they just pull if you can find any

i also see your reply rather childish considering you a senior, you blast out your view but never consider about others. We live a plural society not singular, what convenient for you, may not be convenient to others. I been wondering are you in engineering course ? If yes, I am sure you are well aware of Engineering students got a higher chance to fail their subject compared to other students ? Fail and pass can be said is life or death for us considering how the next sem subject very much depend on what we take previous sem. We fail one important, we will be pushed back 1 or 2 sem regardless how you appeal since the subject is only offered once a trimester year.. That freaking 3 month or 6 month later. So your mindset of student just need to be average does not held true.. even it pass or fail and dean award, we consider it a life or death situation

Yes i agree with vapeace.

Mr. President, you have yet stated your objectives and goals. What you replied were just :



You're just saying it in general. "We will fight for the students", but fight about what for them? Everyone knows SRCs was established to represent the students in voicing out their unsatisfactory, etc etc, of course we know you will fight for them, but fight for them about what? Fight for them to make yourself a hero? Fight for them so that new policies can be implemented? Fight for them so that SRC will be approved by the management in the future? Or fight for them so that you can brain wash them, making them thinking SRCs is vital in their campus life? Yes, it is vital, but considering the condition now, i don't think SRC even mean anything anymore. Please, state it CLEAR. Your objectives.. Don't go around beating the bush, straight to the point. Tell us you SRCs' objectives.

Sorry, but i really need you to clarify the objectives clearly yourself, else you will be having alot excuses later on, such as "You have misunderstood my words about the objectives of SRCs" or "I did not mention anything about it, you guys that made that assumption yourselves" and many more.

So, make it clear and straight to the point please.

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 6 2010, 03:11 AM

I think I have stated my goals and objective clearly from the day I started my election.

FACEBOOK

It’s in my profile since the first day I step in to the election. And until now, this is my guide. Just to share. Now, ask me again if I did not answer any of the questions…

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Added on November 6, 2010, 3:26 amOn top of that, it would be:

1) Conduct all IPTA meeting hosted by MMU
2) Tax Exemption for companies that sponsor MMU's event (on the way)
3) Demolish IT Fees (It was implemented in 2008 to increase the bandwidth. but now already increase and yet, IT facilities are still back to date) if the management still want to charge students, it should be "Transparent". Students should know where the money goes. Its our money!
4) After the TownHall, SRC will gather feedback and should there be any case, students disagree, SRC will have to fight until this thing is being abolished. (If majority does not agree and the management still want to continue, we will fight until we are being sacked!)

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Added on November 6, 2010, 3:33 amand sorry to tell.. I have been parking my car at the new car park if I cannot find parking. I am a student too..

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Added on November 6, 2010, 3:37 amI think I am in a forum. Even in Facebook, I say what I think is right. But I have been saying, if I think is right, does not mean other think is right too.

Thats why I am here.. If you think I am wrong, justify then. After all, name me other SRC presidents that have been sticking their head in this forum and announcing things via networks.. I am here because I care. I want to know what others think. As simple as that..



This post has been edited by gavinfernando: Nov 6 2010, 03:37 AM

i am interested in this statement. are you saying that you are the best of all president? fyi, not all students use facebook and even not all students use this forum. but unfortunately, there is NO other avenue for students to reach to SRC. going to the SRC office, you will just see bunch of clowns goofing around there. You can even find cronies of SRC reps there abusing the facilities. and from what i have seen, SRC is very disorganized. For example, they cant even relay a simple message to another src member if he or she was not in the src room. or probably, to them it is not important. i dare you to make the src office restricted to src members only, that would be a good start.

Yes, i'm interested in that statement as well. What's the use of announcing it through network? Not everyone play facebook all the time, or visit lowyat all the time?
For me, i've only come to know that there's such thread in this forum when people mentioned to visit it in the "say no to new policies" event page.

Or are you trying to tell us that, you make announcement and declarations, or fighting with the management for the students, or surveying how many students agree or disagree, all through network only? 'Cause we don't really see much of these activities in campus itself..

Yes, and, about SRC office, there were a few times where i went there, to report my loss of things, during operational hour somewhere around 3pm weekdays, but there wasn't anyone there. Please make sure there's at least someone there for us to find whenever we need.

huh??? really??? i heard that we need to submit the application through ptptn website from orientation week.
T.T
sad, ok i go ask admin on monday.
thx for help.

Of course I am not saying that I am the best of SRC President. My point is I took initiative in getting more feedback from students.

And as for the SRC Exco not being in SRC Room, I frankly have to admit as is SRC member who did not come for duty.

Making announcements and clarification are not best used in networking places. But is one of the best way to get feedback and quick notification. Even SRC did our booth and not many turnups.. If I were to compare the amount of complaints and comments I got from Facebook, it would be more than exco's opening booths..

Exco's did do their part. But students just dont come. On the other hand, I expect SRC to come down and see students more often than sticking themselves in the room. I have worked my way around SRC and I had personally faced quite a number of comments and criticism. But look, no one is perfect. And is human's nature to point people's mistake instead of highlighting the previous deeds that was good.

No matter where SRC goes, there are always people who say we are just not good enough. In Asia, people like to compare. As in how we are being brought up. Parents compare their kids with their neighbors kid. So, living our lives until now, there are always people criticizing. Back to SRC, is students who always criticize. But I think is good as the criticism carry us back on track.

To make it short, people just like to point work by word or statement by statement made. What we do are always wrong and never right. If you think that you are one of them, tell you what.. Why not joining SRC and know the system. Then you will know what I mean.. Deal with students and management. Then you will see how "beautiful" the "system" in MMU. I had spend nearly my entire stay in MMU changing the system.. SRC is useless without students. So, have faith. Faith as in not only to believe in us, but to support us.

Every implementation has their own reason. IT fees was imposed in 2008 as management says is best to upgrade the bandwidth. I do agree with the implementation, but not now. There does not seemed to be any changes after that. During that time, when SRC fight, merely 100 people came.

SRC and students need to work together. We need your support...

Dear Mr President

so i see you have park at the new parking lot, so how was the place ? best spot to park your car ? i asking it sincerely although i already expected what answer you will give. BTW, i asking the objective regarding the new policies not when you elected as president. I dont need to know your objective as president it almost the same as the president before and before

i been itching to ask, have you wonder why not many turn up ? dont worry i among the 100 who turn up that day also, although it just a while. I think back during the IT fee, i can see almost no banner or publication in campus regarding the issues. At least, now i will congratulate SRC for at least having a pamphlet regarding the policies pasted in the lift ! Then again where the petition board in melaka campus ?

it not SRC is not good enough now, it already no good since last time. Senior told me SRC now and then, there no difference. They will just agree to what management told them.

so are you regretting your decision being SRC president, if you cant handle the pressure, there always the option to quit. It because we the students dont what to handle those tedious matter between management, SRC is born. If there none, is there a need for SRC the first place ?

So you're complaining on dealing with students and the management? By merely spending your entire life in changing the system, will not gives u anything if there isn't any effort.

you may say SRC is useless without students, but, SRC is also useless if they weren't putting enough efforts even if they had the whole campus's students supporting them.



And you can see that SRC does not have the respectable responsibilities.. Well, i know,we can't blame it all on the whole SRC when just 1 member did it wrong or irresponsible towards his/her duty, but do you think it will happen if the person in charged of monitoring the duties, is strict enough? I wonder... =)


And yes, about last time's IT fees, i don't see much notice or flyer or publication about it as well, and... i don't think, in fact, i don't even know there's such thing where 100 students gathered to fight for the IT fees? =.=" What i know was just about the collection of signatures from students whom disagree with the IT fees, is this what you mean by "100 people turned up" as in 100 signatures? If that's so, then i am part of it as well... Well, never mind with that, but that was also told by my friend as well, not by seeing any notifications in campus, or being told by any SRC members.. :\ don't tell me SRCs expect students to spread the news for them after 1-time-announcement...


And..vapeace does make a point. I've asked few of my seniors before, none of them said anything positive about SRC. It's been no good in everything since last time, except for the fact where they continuously disappoint students....

This post has been edited by Goldseemon: Nov 6 2010, 08:13 PM

Frankly, I am not happy parking at the new car park. That is not the best place to park. But why park it at jalan dahlia? This is act of selfish. If there is emergency case that need the bomba people to come, they cannot even enter MMU. And the best way is using the front gate. With students getting more and more creative parking their cars at Jalan Dahlia (even bus also cannot pass), what does this reflects?

Petition in Melaka? We never done any petition in Melaka. Lets be frank, Melaka students are very active compared to cyber. If we were to spark this in Melaka, I bet students will pour in. But we decided to move on with Cyber first as is our strategy. We want the management to see, only one campus,there are already so many petition. FYI, 3000 over petition was collected. but in the 3000, around 600 people are affected. We can do more in Melaka. Which includes putting more pamplets around campus during the campaign. But MMU Melaka is just too small. We did not get approval from STAD and pasted the paper around campus. End up, I was called up and being scold by STAD for not following the rules and regulation in MMU. but who cares that scolding, my main objective was to inform students.

If you think SRC now is no good since last time, I would humbly ask if you can give me the chance to prove you wrong. If I agree what management told, I wont be initiating SRC campaign (no policy) campaign few weeks back. And I am going to initiate (Y campaign) which its aim is to know, (Y=why) so many things have been imposed but no improvement which includes IT fees.

I never regretted my decision by becoming SRC president. But I am just not so happy if students keep on complaining and when we fight, they disappear. I think right now, what I am asking is very fair. I am asking students to attend the townhall and understand the system before fighting. No point fighting without knowing the cause and do not understand anything. If you think SRC was born just to handle management, you are wrong. SRC consist of students as well. And SRC cannot and would not be able to stand alone without students support. Else, it would be one sided. SRC does not only deal "tedious" matter with management as that is only one of our scope. There are much other things that we should look into. I have to admit, SRC in IPTS are immature and not being recognized as any form of body. We are never told beforehand what is going to happen and never being included in discussion before decision is being made. Thats why this year, I want SRC to step up higher and show that they are wrong. Trust me, there are more to come..

I cant help to notice that you are yearning for respect and praises from us. Do you want a bouquet of roses too? Why would I want to join SRC? What I have contributed as an individual is far more than the collective effort of the whole SRC members, yes you can quote me on this. And no, i dont go harping on what i have done nor solicit any praises. What makes you think I have not dealt with students and the management before, oh wait, maybe it's your 'i am the best' attitude that is surfacing again. Let me repeat again, just in case you have not read my previous comments. I criticize the way SRC handled this matter in terms of its methodology and approach, and ultimately created distress among the students. Make your stand, do you agree or do you not agree with me?

about the SRC's effort, I have to agree that SRC can do more while we could not.
For SRC exco not being there during duty, is purely attitude and responsibility. I can punish them for so many reasons and even tell them to pay up some fine, but what i believe is exco's should be matured and think of their own responsibility. SRC is a voluntarily work and I wish not to scold and fine them. What I can do is to make them be more aware of their responsibility.

Clarification on my previous statement as it might not seemed clear. I mean, there were only 100 students "attended" the session with management, and not "signing" the petition. I believe this "lack of awareness" will not happen again for the upcoming town hall as SRC will be distributing fliers and posters around campus.

Give SRC some change. I believe that those who raise these concerns do have faith in SRC. But is just disappointed with the outcome. If you are completely disapointed and think SRC is hopeless, you would not even spend some time typing and say what you think of SRC. I think you might not know me but I fight for reason. If there is no reason to fight, there is no point fighting. And back to the issues, if students think that which ever things that was imposed was good, SRC could not do anything either.

I believe those comments given are very fair and is my responsibility to do the necessary.. Help me to help you. Tell me what you think, but not just saying SRC is useless. I think that is unfair. I do know and believe there were frustrations over what src have been doing, but look...I am doing my best to achieve what I need to do. Thats why I am here... After long reply, I simply hope that you guys can give us some faith. And point out more issues for us instead of highlighting us as useless. Doing something is better than do nothing. I want to do something and leave with something but not leave nothing... Give me more feedback before I end my term...

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Added on November 6, 2010, 10:38 pmfairly said and yes I do agree with you about the way SRC handled in terms of methodology and approach which creates distress. but I have said that is SRC fault too.

But I have to disagree that I am yearning for respect. Respect is earned, not yearned. And I do not deserved to be labeled yet as I have not end my term of service. As a whole, I reject your opinion on "yearning for respect" and claim that "i am the best".

This post has been edited by gavinfernando: Nov 6 2010, 10:38 PM

You are wrong. Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Period.

Doing things wrong means learning. Rome was not build in a day. Baby will fall when it started to learn how to walk. So, making mistakes is part of life. What is important is learn from the mistakes.

An irresponsible person is likely to equate doing things wrong with learning in this context. It is always easy to say learn from mistakes but what is the implication of the wrong doings to the rest? Rome was not build in a day, but it crumbled under the weight of it's lust and gluttony. What is important is learn from the mistakes, but who is cleaning up the mess? On the other hand, you never admit your mistakes until being pressed. So what have you learn here?

What have I learned? Haha, admit the mistakes in public before being pushed? does that relieves you? well, we have war to fight out there.. No point fighting in here... Right.. And what difference does it make? why not tell the country's senator/dewan rakyat/menteri/perdana menteri to apologize for their mistakes. And who clean up for them?

it's almost pointless and come on, move on. Ur stuck behind..move on... "some" of your comments are rational. But as time goes, it doesn't seemed so. Since you hate mmu so much, wonder why are you still there. There are always more option.. (utar). Mind you, you will be graduating with MMU's name on it. I you challenge me so much eh? why not you tell your potential employer about how bad is MMU. Or will you be telling how good are you and how bad is MMU..

Look at what you are wearing before criticizing other's attire.

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Added on November 6, 2010, 11:53 pmsince SRC made the mess, src is going to clean in.. Fair...

This post has been edited by gavinfernando: Nov 7 2010, 02:43 AM

But why park it at jalan dahlia ? because at least the road is tar-ed... you personally admit the new parking is not the best place to park. Yes i also admit, those are stupid individual who park their car at those spot. Even i dare not park there as i scare the bus will scratch my car. Then if want park at jalan dahlia, at least park at next to ep area or after MMU main gate

you admit doing the petition in melaka campus will boost greater students. Then why never go for melaka campus instead of cyber ? More students, more management will see ? or it some kind of plot to distress students and you didnt go for melaka campus because since the students there are more active, you scare your plan might backfired if were to go wrong like now ? Conspiracy theory indeed Nevermind that, i not interested in it anyway since the whole part of the show is already running with or without src.

MMU planned to go ahead with the policies and nothing we could do about it eventually. Dont ask us to give SRC a chances to prove itself, senior also been giving chances to SRC to prove itself. And yet even until they graduated, those chances are not utilized. Dont give the same excuse when src fight students disappear ! and i will just give the same reason why students are just not motivated to fight along side with src. It tiring repeating myself you know ? Read back again on my post why src fail in motivating more students and better campaigning plan.



It is a hint that there are more new policies coming ? Great.. i see, so there will be more chances for both SRC to prove or to humiliate itself again. We shall see about that. Dont say we dont offer the chance again. We will just wait and see since the current one is long gone. New policies will be implemented one way or another.