1) Yeah, working people PAY for a nice parking place, and near. This? Free? Yeah, it's good, but eventually spoiling your car etc? No thanks. I rather park somewhere else. Plus, yeah, main business is education. But what's the use of providing a top 1 education in the world while having poor facilities and environment? Students won't be able to concentrate well and it'll all be pointless. Why couldn't concentrate well?

Road not tar-ed -> students hates spoiling the car -> park somewhere else -> no parking -> late for class coz finding for parking. Even if they were to come school early, can u ensure the parking will be available? With the increase in number of students every year with the same parking slots available.

Further more, the parking is so far from campus, and with such a hot weather these days, students might be sweating all over, walking such a long distance, and they will be busy cooling themselves down in the class rather than being able to pay full attention to the class.

Look, we're not being spoiled here. We, as a student, we have the RIGHTS to voice out our unsatisfactory. I joined MMU because of the course offered, the allocation of semesters in a year, and much more, and now you're telling me they're going to abolish all of them and make a completely new rules, policies, etc? Who would be happy with that ? We're merely voicing out to let them know we're not happy with the new implementations, and hope for them to consider us, the students, more, rather than thinking of how to earn money.


2) HA,HA,HA . Funny, you've been in MMU long enough to know how fast the internet now compared to before, but you failed to know how frequent the "no connectivity" issue occur? If that's really the case, then means MMU must have degrading ALOT since last time. Or maybe not, coz you did mention you don't know about the situation in Malacca. Well, "MMU malacca has older system"? Then upgrade it to a newer system ! What's the use of the IT fees' worth from 10 thousands of students? To provide better internet service, and you can't even provide a better system for an easier access to internet? That's not really a good excuse you know? Old server? Upgrade it as well with those money sucked from us!

3) "you can't guarantee about getting dean awards?" That's our main concern man. What's the use of coming university to study, and expecting to just pass the subject? Might as well spend the money on something else rather than wasting it here. Can't believe a senior would actually say this.


And from how you speak, seriously, it seems to me more like you're a new OC, or new SRC members, trying to save SRC's reputations, rather than a senior.

sorry if i'm being abit harsh.


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and yes, Mr. president, what is your objectives? What is your goal? What is SRC's objectives? What is SRC's goals? You disappeared suddenly after being forced to say out the goal and objectives? Sorry to say... but are you trying to avoid the question so that people wouldn't know your objectives, therefore you can avoid from resigning? Sorry for being harsh, but i think you should mention it out here ASAP (best is before the decision of new policies is final) so that people can know , what EXACTLY you SRCs are planning to do, and so that people wouldn't think the way like i did, thinking that you avoided the questions and waited till the last moment where decisions are already final, then only u mention your objectives and goals corresponding to the implementations made by MMU.

But from what i remembered, and what everyone is made to understand, you were trying to abolish the implementations of these new policies, weren't it? I hope you won't try to modify your objectives, and your objectives doesn't change after all these posts, and i hope you do keep your promise about the WHOLE SRC resigning. Else, i doubt anybody will ever trust SRC anymore.

Sorry for being straight, that's what i really am.

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 5 2010, 04:41 AM

Yea, it is good that their true intentions are revealed here. Now people can really see what SRCs are. Honestly speaking, i'm kinda angry, seeing how the juniors being brain washed when they entered MMU. Few of my juniors are so innocent that SRC took this opportunity to brain wash them, now's they're already devoting themselves to SRCs, thinking SRC is so good, protecting SRC to the very last of their life, etc etc, without actually knowing what's really going on... Must keep stressing that in most of the posts so that people will be able to see it, and so that "some people" wouldn't try to "bury" this off and wait for the time till everyone forgets about it.


And this shows the true nature of the SRC president. "If we want, we can sit back and do nothing. Why would we waste resources in the campaign?" Then what's the purpose of establishing SRC in the first place, and voting for a president in that council? You seem like giving us a threat, if we don't follow what you SRC wants, then you won't help us anymore, is that what you mean? Or just like some of the posts before me, you're trying to take credit for that now ? Means all these while, you're doing all those things for students, to get credits? To be the hero? To get name? To be famous? Or what? This is something you MUST NOT say no matter what happened. But with you saying that, let me tell you this Mr. president, you've failed us. Not just me, or the people in this forum, but all the students in MMU. You're really a disappointment to me. I don't know about others, but for me, yeah. I'm really disappointed in you.




Let me see the results of the abolishment of the new policies, and the actions taken by SRCs correspond to that.

Yes i agree with vapeace.

Mr. President, you have yet stated your objectives and goals. What you replied were just :



You're just saying it in general. "We will fight for the students", but fight about what for them? Everyone knows SRCs was established to represent the students in voicing out their unsatisfactory, etc etc, of course we know you will fight for them, but fight for them about what? Fight for them to make yourself a hero? Fight for them so that new policies can be implemented? Fight for them so that SRC will be approved by the management in the future? Or fight for them so that you can brain wash them, making them thinking SRCs is vital in their campus life? Yes, it is vital, but considering the condition now, i don't think SRC even mean anything anymore. Please, state it CLEAR. Your objectives.. Don't go around beating the bush, straight to the point. Tell us you SRCs' objectives.

Sorry, but i really need you to clarify the objectives clearly yourself, else you will be having alot excuses later on, such as "You have misunderstood my words about the objectives of SRCs" or "I did not mention anything about it, you guys that made that assumption yourselves" and many more.

So, make it clear and straight to the point please.

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 6 2010, 03:11 AM

Yes, i'm interested in that statement as well. What's the use of announcing it through network? Not everyone play facebook all the time, or visit lowyat all the time?
For me, i've only come to know that there's such thread in this forum when people mentioned to visit it in the "say no to new policies" event page.

Or are you trying to tell us that, you make announcement and declarations, or fighting with the management for the students, or surveying how many students agree or disagree, all through network only? 'Cause we don't really see much of these activities in campus itself..

Yes, and, about SRC office, there were a few times where i went there, to report my loss of things, during operational hour somewhere around 3pm weekdays, but there wasn't anyone there. Please make sure there's at least someone there for us to find whenever we need.

You sounded like a pathetic emo kid, rather than a SRC president.. lol.. Sorry no offense.. and, if i'm not mistaken, he's just saying they labeled useless as "noob", but i don't see any of his statement saying "SRC is useless" ? Maybe i missed out some, never mind with that.

And few of your posts before this, i can feel you're losing your patience, which is a bad bad thing in my view. Yes, you can be defensive, but not to the extend of being offensive. A leader losing his/her patience is not a very good example though..

And about the senior is more experienced part, and your example of grandfather raping granddaughter, well, in my opinion, that case is the grandfather gone insane and losses his rationality.. And, by just 1 grandfather out of thousands, raping his own grand daughter, don't make all grandfather cannot be trusted, do they? But for the senior, it's another story. It's not just 1 out of thousands, maybe hundreds or more out of a thousand, where the percentage is much higher. Therefore, we can at least take their words into considerations, then deciding for ourselves whether to follow it or not, am i not right?


Mr. Perfion, you've always left this forum topics on ur tabs and never closed them, but you've just registered yesterday? I don't know why i feel it funny somehow.. LoL. Well, i do agree some of your points here though, but i'm too lazy to comment on some of your points up there as it's getting really late now.. damn i really used up alot times in my research.. anyway, i'll just leave it as it is then..

And i don't know why, from your posts, my instinct telling me that you've some relations with the president, (like you're one of the SRC members too, or you're friend with the president etc, i don't know what exactly), purposely coming to this thread (maybe asked by someone) to come and defend SRC or the president. Well, i won't say much about this coz it's just my instincts and mere accusation. I will apologize for that. =)

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 8 2010, 04:28 AM

Well, i would've agreed with what u said about putting out the fire, if not for the previous few posts from the president. He does not show any characteristic of a leader at all, rather than emo-ing himself there, assuming things himself just like how he assumed vapeace on saying SRC is useless, losing his patience, arrogant, and alot more. You can read and see yourself that through the posts before these.

And yes, it's really not an easy job to be a leader, in fact, i was the leader of my school few years back, so i understand that as much. And yet he volunteered himself right? That means he has the responsibilities, he vowed for the responsibilities, which is why people voted him. And as you said, "when mistakes is made, one have to admit and need to improve and move on". From what i see here, he doesn't really admit it, (only some though), rather, he's trying to push it to others, or trying to change the topic. And, you're wrong in some way about "Keep blaming the SRC of the mistakes they made won't do any good for us nor to the SRC itself". When we keep blaming the SRC, if they really want to show us, to prove to us that what we said were wrong, they would've done something to change our view on them, right?

In a way, it's good you know, keep blaming them, then only they realize their responsibilities, the faith students put on them in helping students to solve their problems, which makes them take the initiatives, or having the.. what u call that... "mood"? Mood to improve further, rather than being..... emo here, trying to push around to others, being like a real spoilt kid here, right Mr.President?



Well, the president is emo-ing about vapeace, so yeah. I was expecting to hear his answer as well, but....




Some question suddenly bump into my mind.. (Sorry to state that here though.. just wanna state it here so that people can try to think about it then maybe can try to ask the management during the meeting =P), or, best , to answer my doubt. XD

What if, let say, for the fixed payment, like... ok, right now i am in delta year, and let say i have around 2 more years to go.
Then i have to pay the fixed amount for the remaining 2 years right? Let say, this year, my long long short semester, got 5 subjects, 5 subjects, and 2 subjects each.
And next year let say i have the same number of subjects in my course structure, which are, for long long short, i have 5 subjects, 5subjects, and 2 subjects. So, let say, 5 subjects cost RM3000 for example, and 2 subjects cost RM1000 for example, ok?
Then means, this year, i have to pay, Rm3000, Rm3000, Rm1000, then next year i have to pay RM3000, Rm3000, Rm1000, right?

What if, maybe for last year or my last 2 years, i've taken some extra subjects in my delta or epsilon year already. Meaning, i'm actually taking, let say, for long:long:short, i'm actually taking 4 subjects, 5 subjects, 2 subjects for this year, and maybe, 3 subjects, 5 subjects, and 1 subject for next year. So, do i have to pay Rm3000, RM3000, and RM1000 fot this year, and RM3000,RM3000, RM1000 for next year? Or will they deduct the subject that i've taken last 2 years? Meaning maybe i just need to pay RM2300, RM3000, RM1000 for this year, and RM1600, RM3000, RM500 for next year? If they will deduct, how they know whether that subject we've taken or not? Checking from their databases? Seriously.. they're making life real hard for them.. -.-

If you don't get what i mean above coz it's so long.. let's make it short.. Let say i'm now delta, and i still have 10 subjects that i need to take, which are in the course structure, in order to graduate. But the total subjects left in my course structure, are actually, say, 13. Since i've taken extra 3 subjects ( subjects in my delta and epsilon year) in my previous years, and since this policy had just been implemented now, will they ask us to pay for 13 subjects in the remaining year as in the course structure? Or will they, browse through their databases, check which subjects have we taken, then check our course structures, then only find out we've taken 3 of the subjects in course structure previously, then they deduct it from their system, and counting us for only 10 subjects?

And, if let say this long semester we need to pay RM3000, but we took extra 1 subject in the next year's structure, which will be added in, let say, total amounted to RM3700. So how about the following semesters? When we reached that semester where this subject is actually arranged for us, do we have to pay the amount of, say, 5 subjects? Or will they deduct this subject, making it 4? Meaning we just have to pay, say, RM2300 (Rm3000 - cost of that 1 subject), for that semester as our fixed payment?

Or as the president said, it will only affect students of 110 and above?


and about the Refund policy.... Wow, i really admired MMU for their money-making capabilities...

And the 7-subject per semester, that's the most, ridiculous things i've ever heard so far.. Sigh.. how about places like apartment which only rent and take 1 year contract or something? wouldn't it mean that students have to pay for the rental fees as well when they're actually holidaying in their own hometown...? =.=



Or maybe he can say his brother or friend accidentally used his account to reply, coz he forgot to logout from his friend/brother's laptop/pc. lol



And, to our Mr.Src-president, i've heard rumours about you, in fact, not only you actually, it's about the whole SRC members, being unable to take criticism and unable to handle students professionally. I hate to admit, nor do i want to think about it that way, before this. But from your posts here, it would seem that these statements are somehow true. You're beginning to... how to say that? "BANG" students back, when you can't really handle them, or when they criticize you for your inefficient way of doing things. Best example can be shown from your previous posts, well, i guess everyone can read that back, no need for me to quote it right? Especially the part of you being selfish and emo about vapeace, which made other students suffer, or get involved in your childish act.

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 8 2010, 06:53 PM

30% of the trimester fee? How does this fee counts? Let say, we're taking 3 subjects, which costs let say RM3000... meaning we only have to pay RM1000 ? (30%) ? Or, let say as you explained, for example, 1 year = RM15000, 3 trimester, and is divided into long long short, then for example, it will be RM6000, Rm6000, and RM3000 for short trimester. So let say, this 2nd trimester of the extended time falls on long sem, so we pay 30% of the RM6000 which is RM2000? Or we follow how many subjects in that trimester,then we take 30% of it?


Well, about this policy to motivate students not to extend... i don't think i can really agree with that though... sometimes some students might be progressing slow, they are understanding things slower than other people, and you can't expect them to not extend even they've tried their best.. not with that extra policies of taking 7 subjects a sem, do they? I've known some friends, i've seen them studying like, whole day, almost everyday, and they were studying when i was hanging out with friends etc etc, and yet they still failed their exams.. I think these are quite unfair to those weaker students.. (weaker, as in, weaker.. not lazy)..

Then as you mentioned, "Old students, use old policies. New students with ID 110 only affected. Even the 7 subjects."... Use old policies, as in all the old policies of these 4 policies? Meaning we will be using the old payment system, old refund policy, old finance policy, and doesn't need to take 7 subjects per trimester? (Does this apply to all faculties as well?)


I'm interested in knowing this as well. First extended trimester will be free, isn't it? So i guess maybe students can use this "bug", to retake everything in the first semester.. or maybe to retake a dropped subject in that trimester as well... Since they're already well trained in handling as much as 7 core subjects per semester...



Oh ya, this reminds me of one thing.. If we drop a subject before week 2, isn't there a 100% refund? But we're still paying RM8000... that means..... does this mean, let say we took a subject, and dropped it BEFORE week 3, or 2, the next time (say, next trimester), we want to take this subject again, we will not need to pay anymore, coz it's counted in our fees already? And if we dropped it AFTER week 3, it's considered as withdraw right? So if we were to take this subject next semester, it will be considered as an "extra subject" and we're required to pay more for that trimester (say, RM9000 for RM8000+ RM1000( for that extra subjects) ) ?

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 9 2010, 01:49 AM

Well... actually i what i meant is generally for all students, not just engineering students.. maybe management or other faculties doesn't require much understanding.. (just memorizing so they wouldn't experience problem though....)

and.. you mentioned we have to pay RM1000... which is 30% of the RM3000 for 3 subjects.... but then you mentioned again they don't care how many subjects we took? That confused me abit... mind to explain? @_@


old student... fixed payment using old or new system? (actually this concerns me the most coz i've taken alot extra subjects which need to be taken later on in my epsilon year...) If they were to charge me according to my course structure, and if it's as vapeace mentioned, i have to pay even if i've paid it in the previous semester..... i think i'm going to really hate MMU..lol

how about the refund policy as in my last 4 lines of my previous posts?

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Added on November 9, 2010, 7:58 amyea.. i understand that much i think...

And, extra subject that you mean..... do you mean "non-core' subject or "elective" subjects? Or additional subjects in other trimester which u tried to take it this semester? (Extra subjects from other trimester which is not listed in this trimester?) Then how about additional subjects which u take, that is not in your course structure? LoL.. coz from what the president said, they calculate from your course structure and then divide it equally...


and..yea... that is if students failed to realize it.. actually, what i was trying to say was that if they plan that the subjects is available during that extra trimester... like they knew this subject will be offered in their first extended trimester, and they planned to drop it? Then they can take all during that extra semester... but yea.. it'll be a real "bad bug" if that subjects is not offered.. lol

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Added on November 9, 2010, 8:01 amwhich faculties you're in btw? if it's engineering then it's very good already for me.. i think =.=
don't know about that though.. coz i've never took 7 subjects.. the most was 6..

This post has been edited by sayuri_chan: Nov 9 2010, 08:01 AM

Lol.. i will have to agree with that... especially with my electives subjects, there's only like...1 lecturer to teach the whole syllabus, and it was a "good" lecturer too... and not just one.. =.=

me and my group of friends evaluated almost all of the lecturers in previous sem not more than 2.. coz of their teaching skills.. LoL.. And it really got my cgpa dropped ALOT... -.-


and ya, i think i've heard it from don't know which lecturer, (maybe the current acting dean of FET), that the percentage affecting their bonus is very little, in the OAE..