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TSsweet-potato
post Nov 7 2010, 02:15 AM

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Thank you for your comment. :-)

no point saying things to people who think SRC as Stupid Retarded Chicken rite? (you sounded like someone who label SRC as "stupid". In marketing, we call that group of peoplenas stereotype)
your point keep on saying senior, senior and senior. Well, if you think that "seniors" are right, all the best to you.

I have my responsibility to carry out. Thank you

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Nov 7 2010, 02:15 AM)
Thank you for your comment. :-)

no point saying things to people who think SRC as Stupid Retarded Chicken rite? (you sounded like someone who label SRC as "stupid". In marketing, we call that group of peoplenas stereotype)
your point keep on saying senior, senior and senior. Well, if you think that "seniors" are right, all the best to you.

I have my responsibility to carry out. Thank you
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sry to bother u,so u r the src of mmu ,right? I just wanna ask you about the new policies such as take 7 sub at long sem at least ,bla bla bla...etc , already approved by admin?
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QUOTE(djronzai @ Nov 7 2010, 11:42 AM)
sry to bother u,so u r the src of mmu ,right? I just wanna ask you about the new policies such as  take 7 sub at long sem at least ,bla bla bla...etc , already approved by admin?
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yeah ... it was approved since last week...
but SRC says that it only affects those starting from June 2010
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post Nov 7 2010, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Nov 6 2010, 11:20 PM)
What have I learned? Haha, admit the mistakes in public before being pushed? does that relieves you? well, we have war to fight out there.. No point fighting in here... Right.. And what difference does it make? why not tell the country's senator/dewan rakyat/menteri/perdana menteri to apologize for their mistakes. And who clean up for them?

it's almost pointless and come on, move on. Ur stuck behind..move on... "some" of your comments are rational. But as time goes, it doesn't seemed so. Since you hate mmu so much, wonder why are you still there. There are always more option.. (utar). Mind you, you will be graduating with MMU's name on it. I you challenge me so much eh? why not you tell your potential employer about how bad is MMU. Or will you be telling how good are you and how bad is MMU..

Look at what you are wearing before criticizing other's attire.


Added on November 6, 2010, 11:53 pmsince SRC made the mess, src is going to clean in.. Fair...
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someone is getting very defensive i see. well, this is what i expect from you exactly smile.gif why compare with those politicians? are you saying you are just a politician too? and while on it, why compare with the malaysian scene? why not compare with uk or japan where they resigned when they have failed. when are you going to resign?

you have a problem in comprehending statement. can you point out any statement about me saying hating MMU, but on the other hand, yes i am totally against the SRC. Funny that you would mention utar, seems like it is your 'favourite' place. as usual, you do not have a point and run away from the topic and start harping about potential employer etc.

the src has failed and you as the president is solely responsible. dont put the blame on others. dont beg for respect. dont plead for faith. clean up the mess and do it properly, not just sweeping under the carpet. you are slowly exposing you real face as the president and what src is alll about.

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post Nov 7 2010, 01:55 PM

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Thank you for your comment. :-)
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post Nov 7 2010, 07:10 PM

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thanks for your comment, In engineering we label those useless as "noob". Sadly SRC have no N in it sign. Well senior have experience more than us..come on your are just 21 or 22 . they are over 25. Now you tell me who more experience.

Next on my agenda, i just received a great insider info ( i wont reveal it from who..). I think you will have some deep explanation to do regarding this

based on my info, circular regarding the new policies was already circulated among assistant lecturer and lecturer and possible among top src members (Which is you indirectly) very much earlier before the meeting before SRC and MMU (possible as early as last sem). It mean that SRC already knew about the policies beforehand. If i remember correctly, SRC only launch the campaign after MMU announced it plan to implement those policies. SRC is hiding a secret from the students and only launch it campaign after official announcement

MMU also knew beforehand, that SRC is going to launch a petition against it. When asked management already knew about it and very confident that the policies will get the green light even if SRC protest against it. I starting to personally think that SRC knew this will happen sooner or later, and they launch a campaign just to show that they at least did something. The meeting between SRC and MMU are just a play. MMU meeting with students is another play to announce the policies will get the go ahead regardless the protest

next the policies was already implemented even before SRC collect the petition against it. It mean that we are not informed about also. Few students are already refused refund although they are not 110XXXXXX ID which you claimed only will faced such policies. It also seem that even during the first week, when students want to drop their subject, they are also refused full refund. How could you miss such info and not tell it to anyone. Since i never drop any subject, i dont know such policies applied to us also. Where the transparency of SRC ? Now i would you to give a explanation wther 110XXXXXXX students only or everyone is affected by the policies ? I view this as a very serious matter !

Next, src are diverting the blame for the policies implementation to students for not giving supports and claiming the policies will be implemented because there no enough students against it. Wow great diversion technique thumbup.gif I have to say SRC sure have planned their move very well. Kudos to SRC

Now this information can be true or not true but even it not true. It a very disturbing facts indeed to until it reaches my ears
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I heard those policies since last sem~~
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post Nov 7 2010, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Nov 7 2010, 07:10 PM)
thanks for your comment, In engineering we label those useless as "noob". Sadly SRC have no N in it sign. Well senior have experience more than us..come on your are just 21 or 22 . they are over 25. Now you tell me who more experience. 

Next on my agenda, i just received a great insider info ( i wont reveal it from who..). I think you will have some deep explanation to do regarding this

based on my info, circular regarding the new policies was already circulated among assistant lecturer and lecturer and possible among top src members (Which is you indirectly) very much earlier before the meeting before SRC and MMU (possible as early as last sem). It mean that SRC already knew about the policies beforehand. If i remember correctly, SRC only launch the campaign after MMU announced it plan to implement those policies. SRC is hiding a secret from the students and only launch it campaign after official announcement

MMU also knew beforehand, that SRC is going to launch a petition against it. When asked management already knew about it and very confident that the policies will get the green light even if SRC protest against it. I starting to personally think that SRC knew this will happen sooner or later, and they launch a campaign just to show that they at least did something. The meeting between SRC and MMU are just a play. MMU meeting with students is another play to announce the policies will get the go ahead regardless the protest

next the policies was already implemented even before SRC collect the petition against it. It mean that we are not informed about also. Few students are already refused refund although they are not 110XXXXXX ID which you claimed only will faced such policies. It also seem that even during the first week, when students want to drop their subject, they are also refused full refund. How could you miss such info and not tell it to anyone. Since i never drop any subject, i dont know such policies applied to us also. Where the transparency of SRC ? Now i would you to give a explanation wther 110XXXXXXX students only or everyone is affected by the policies ? I view this as a very serious matter !

Next, src are diverting the blame for the policies implementation to students for not giving supports and claiming the policies will be implemented because there no enough students against it. Wow great diversion technique  thumbup.gif I have to say SRC sure have planned their move very well. Kudos to SRC

Now this information can be true or not true but even it not true. It a very disturbing facts indeed to until it reaches my ears
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Thank you for your comment and no point mentioning to stereotypes. And I think is best you ask during the Town Hall. What you wrote clearly shows that you do not even understand what is happening and trying to portray as though you know everything. And mind you with your accusation and false claiming before even mentioning it. Have your facts and info right. Experience by age does not count. I have come on hand that a grandfather just raped their granddaughter. What that does shows? A 65 years old guy still kicking? Or just another "grandfather" that just want to tell the world that he knows everything? (grow up)

Quoting and by saying thing without evidence are called as "false claim". I am not sure have an engineering student like you came across this. But this is just common sense. (not sure you have it or not but never mind). You seemed like to link things around. Since you said that there is "a great insider", why not me telling you that I have " a great outsider" who thinks that he is inside?

Frankly, I do not do things to please people's ears and your ears would be the least for me to please. Next tip, get your facts and details right before sticking it out. It's eyesore. All the best. thumbup.gif


Added on November 7, 2010, 9:51 pm
QUOTE(SMALL BULLION @ Nov 7 2010, 07:41 PM)
I heard those policies since last sem~~
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wow, now he is talking. And that's better in fact. Indeed it started last semester. Just students did not realize it. Maybe students like the "steriotype" are too busy catching SRC's tail without knowing who's tail is that.



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post Nov 7 2010, 10:47 PM

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gavin gavin, the more you speak, the more arrogant you sound..the more you try to defend, the more desperate you sound wink.gif

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:01 PM

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All the best.. for future reference.. awesome..


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 7 2010, 10:47 PM)
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gavin gavin, the more you speak, the more arrogant you sound..the more you try to defend, the more desperate you sound  wink.gif
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and check previous post and see who started the arrogance.

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:34 PM

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I've always left this forum topic on my tabs and never closed them... But I want to say (or conclude) about my opinion on this.

Seniors need to stop poison juniors mind about how bad SRC is. Because even my seniors say bad things about SRC and how they are incapable of doing anything to help the students. He said those to me during my 1st sem in foundation. It makes my impression towards SRC falls...

But then again... I realized they really did something, to compare to other (many) students who just sit in their rooms and having fun. Then when they didn't know about the policies or any news, they blamed the SRC. Well... for your information, there are students that didn't check the bulletin boards! (one that you didn't need to register like Facebook or this lowyat forum). Please don't expect the SRC members to come personally to everyone's room and keep you up-to-date when you didn't want to find it for yourselves sweat.gif There also people saying that SRC make the petition underground when they can't see the fliers for the petition were hanging and paste around MMU doh.gif I'm not saying that SRC does everything right, but we need to look at ourselves for a moment too. Ask what we do, not what others do.

You want a change, then help and support SRC to make a change. SRC does not have the power of MMU's management. They are our bridge to connect our voices to the higher ups. And please bear in mind too... they are also students like us. Would you like to go to the management and talk about the policies when you need to study for quizzes or submission? think about it... hmm.gif some of you might actually choose to play games brows.gif

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Thank for your complements.. i will gladly accept it with my up most gratitude blush.gif

anyway, what your clearly wrote also show that you think you can outsmart most of us and we are just to dumb to believe whatever you say. I dont mind giving false accusation and facts when clearly you are not try to prove me wrong nor at least try to debunk those rumors i created as you claimed. Mind you, i also spent entire day asking management regarding the policies and convincing people to give me more info about SRC action. I also spent another asking day fellow students wther they are affected by the policies. Do you think i will run stupidly into a battlefield without prior info ? i also personally go my faculty and my aa to ask regarding the policies.

Just to add the trouble i went through just to get those false info. And ya, i am very free. Experience by age does not count. True, but they have experience it before us and we are ought to seek help from them first. Or are you trying to tell seniors are useless in anyway possible ? If based on your view, look at Dr Mahathir. he the proud father of Modern Malaysia, and yet now he giving racist remark ? What those show ? He a old man whose doesn't know what he talking ? or He a person who dare voice out his views ?. I also found another perfect example, Bong Mokthar got a second wife even when initially court say it illegal ! So now he a old and kicking old man who love young women too ? Great country we have pedo in our top government position. BTW i am sure you wont like underage girls, right ? if yes that would be a huge problem biggrin.gif

Oh the great language game again, dont you just learn your lesson with Adrian ho ? I have no interest in such game as it divert me from my objective to say SRC ways of handling students related matter is inefficient and down right useless. Then again, try to give me some facts and figure to show what i claimed is false, it wont hurt right ? i spent a day or two collecting them, i am sure your are able to do the same. In fact it might be a political boost to your career too, as you are able to fend off rumors and speculation. Killing two birds with one stone

frankly speaking, i also dont like to speak to you and thank you for calling me an eyesore. It been a long time since i was last called that. I also got better things to do seriously than to think on what to write and finding info and come here to ask and comment about it

Mr SMALL BULLION

i would like to ask where you learn about and who mention it to you ? Again Mr president, i am catching src tail not others. It clearly stated in all my comments

Mr Perfion

i see you just registered a day ago to voice your comment. Why never do so earlier so we can have more constructive discussion ? I have to gladly disagree with you on "Seniors need to stop poison juniors mind" They are not poisoning your mind, they are merely expressing their mind. It took them 4 to 5 years to see what SRC have done during their time, while i just spent 3+ years here, and yet i see nothing significant. Chances of me telling my junior the same thing are also almost the same as them. It up to you to believe it or not. I dont expect them to come personally to my room and inform me about it. Who would be that hardworking ? But it a good idea though, maybe SRC can look into it. They can considering it as interacting with students and gathering support which they clearly lack. How could we find information when we are not make aware of it ? Let say unless someone mention about the new policies, would you go initiate to find info about it ?

Ya there are many keyboard warrior like me. For your information, i also check bulletin board often, in fact i only came to know about the policies in forum lowyat and facebook when one email me the info. Maybe SRC can post at MMLS instead of Bulletin Board, More students will come aware of it. Regarding the petition flier, i am based on melaka campus, i sincerely dont or hardly see much of them. Even the flier i mentioned that was pasted in the lift was long gone while i am going for class. I want change but i want src to change first. You cant expect a sloppy leader to lead an organization, do you ?

Right from the beginning till now, i have mention SRC ways of handling student related issues are just inefficient and have cause distress instead. They are students like us but if they are willing to go for the posts then they should already know the consequence of such action will make toward their studies. I also will choose to play games then to think on what to write for almost an hour

Do let me ask this question, what did SRC did that we cant say anything about it ?

Thanks your for reading the walls of text, appreciate it, it took me almost and hour to write tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Nov 7 2010, 11:01 PM)
All the best.. for future reference.. awesome..


Added on November 7, 2010, 11:03 pm
and check previous post and see who started the arrogance.
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sending all those comments gathered here, in fb, etc to STAD would be too easy for me, no? and well, let me put it this way, i can be arrogant because i dont beg for support nor plead for faith and most importantly, i dont screw up wink.gif

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Let me point out one thing. SRC INCITE distress among students and failed to provide full information. And for this alone, SRC is guilty beyond any doubt.

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thank you for your comment but I just agree that SRC did create distress among students. period

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 8 2010, 01:15 AM)
sending all those comments gathered here, in fb, etc to STAD would be too easy for me, no? and well, let me put it this way, i can be arrogant because i dont beg for support nor plead for faith and most importantly, i dont screw up  wink.gif
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keep your cool man, Dealing with arrogant people is not be arrogant yourself

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wow, now he is talking. And that's better in fact. Indeed it started last semester. Just students did not realize it. Maybe students like the "steriotype" are too busy catching SRC's tail without knowing who's tail is that.
Mr president, did you just said you know about this policies since last sem ? How come most of us here are not aware of it ? i clearly check my bulletin board last sem but i dont see any announcement about it

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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Nov 8 2010, 12:21 AM)
thank you for your comment but I just agree that SRC did create distress among students. period
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LOL, quote for future reference again tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vapeace @ Nov 8 2010, 12:23 AM)
keep your cool man, Dealing with arrogant people is not be arrogant yourself
Mr president, did you just said you know about this policies since last sem ? How come most of us here are not aware of it ? i clearly check my bulletin board last sem but i dont see any announcement about it
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Yeap, already started last semester. After senate approve it, then only there was a memo being sent around staffs. Did you ever see new implementation posted in bulletin that often? Even the finance payment is not being uploaded in bulletin last trimester. SRC got to know during our final week of our holidays.


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 8 2010, 12:28 AM)
LOL, quote for future reference again  tongue.gif
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Ok.. anyway, this thread wont be deleted or removed. Remarks and information are provided/given as a forum-er. Period.

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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Nov 8 2010, 12:29 AM)
Yeap, already started last semester. After senate approve it, then only there was a memo being sent around staffs. Did you ever see new implementation posted in bulletin that often? Even the finance payment is not being uploaded in bulletin last trimester. SRC got to know during our final week of our holidays.


Added on November 8, 2010, 12:31 am
Ok.. anyway, this thread wont be deleted or removed. Remarks and information are provided/given as a forum-er. Period.
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haha, playing the political game well i see. so all the comments made here and in fb are not in your capacity as president of src? the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper
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but your clearly claimed that it students fault for not checking it themselves, Therefore it not SRC job to inform everyone of us ! hmm.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 12:50 AM

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It was imposed but not enforced. Especially the finance policy. And it was enforced this trimester. That is when we got to know about the new implementation. We not informed when it was imposed as well.

So, that's why I said that what you had mentioned earlier that SRC knows about this, was wrong.


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 8 2010, 12:35 AM)
haha, playing the political game well i see. so all the comments made here and in fb are not in your capacity as president of src? the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper
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meet me in person and if the words come from my mouth, that is the President of SRC. Anyone would have created any accounts right? So, want to know, why not come over and see me. My cell is 0166588220. Instead of blasting on your keyboard, why not see me in person. I would be more than happy though.

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