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Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?

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post Jun 1 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(goer&doer @ Jun 1 2011, 02:25 AM)
Biotech graduate here, in fact just graduated 3 weeks ago. Among the wide field of Biotech, Im doing molecular cloning and genetic engineering, that's where my interest lies. It's a fact that biotech-related job very hard to find. My friends get their lab job with 1.8k, mind you that they are all 1st class. Not being disencouranging, Msia is NOT READY for this field, resources such as grants are used for research that are hardly be commercialized. Pursuing master must have a strong purpose. If you feel despair in job hunting after your bachelor then only you opt for a master. That is totally nonsense because after your master you will be facing the same issue since your focus is at somewhere else. If you are still stuck in university, kindly involve in more activities that will make your resume look nice. Explore some other functional area like marketing or even sales. They are just as cool as lab work. Translating R&D output into a branded product requires the right people speaking the right words. Open up your mind to find something RELEVANT. We are having noble knowledge in ourselve and please don't sell yourself short just because of lack of response from companies, it might due to the low demand. Keep yourself relevant and when the day comes, we all shall be able to shine with glory.
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1.8k is obviously low, but then the pay for scientists is low everywhere else in the world anyway, and I do mean PhDs not just your average degree graduates.

So really there's no money in science, we do it because we are really interested in it, not because of the money. Imagine working late into the night and coming back during weekends, and not getting paid for these extra hours of work.

If I wanted money I'd have gone for doctors, lawyers, or heck, even plumbers make more money than scientists (and I am talking about foreign countries with leading research reputation, not just Malaysia).

However, I definitely disagree with your statement that marketing or sales are as cool as lab work. I'm sorry but to me lab work is probably the most satisfying job ever, with so many challenges to take on, so many novel ideas to be attempted, that's what really interesting about science. That's why I always think that the most talented students should go for scientists instead of becoming doctors.

This post has been edited by tester: Jun 1 2011, 09:29 PM
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post Jun 3 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(goer&doer @ Jun 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
The pay is low for scientist everywhere? Maybe, but there are so much more factor contribute to happiness in workplace. Biotech job is the happiest job in USA. http://blogs.forbes.com/meghancasserly/201...ers-in-america/

Yes you do it is because of interest, I really buy the idea. I understand the feeling of forgetting the time passed when I m so enthusiastic in completing my task and fulfill my satisfaction. That was the feeling I feel in lab during my final year project. 50 times of failure in PCR, emotions run ups and downs but the result, satisfy me.
Marketing or sales of course can be as cool as lab. I said so Maybe because I have bad experience in lab whereas u have a fantastic experience in your school's lab. Your coolest uniform is lab coat but my coolest uniform is dresses. People are different due to different background and experience. Please dun judge solely by ur own experience.
Science is the savior for our world, especially biotech, it fuel the world, feed the world and cure the world. But marketing/ business peoples also an important player in this industry to translate our R&D output to a picture/concept that can be accepted by the public. This industry somehow needs the right people to tell the right words at the right time. There is no dishonour job only dishonour man.
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Actually pay is pretty low for postdocs in the US if you compare with here (Australia), which is still low. (Unless, of course, you mean private industry) Even a plumber can make more money than us, seriously.

As for PCR for 50 times, we've all been through that at some point of our lab career. If you think about it, the technical aspect of science is mostly troubleshooting, and keep trying until you 'perfect' the method, although there are tasks that can be extremely challenging e.g. I am keen on developing a new surgical method (for animal model) which at this stage is still in its infancy.

Still, the most interesting aspect about it is not the techniques themselves, but how you come up with solutions to your problems. This is where creativity and novelty kick in, and the experience is extremely satisfying when you can prove your approach works.

Anyway I never said marketing is not good. It was my opinion and clearly stated that I disagreed with your opinion. Therefore, it was merely my opinion that I think science is so much more interesting and satisfying than marketing. Period.

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