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Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?

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post May 21 2010, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 21 2010, 08:28 AM)
Yes, there is a learning curve. My degree and honours year did not teach me programming langauges and IT skills too, i'm more to biochemistry research and lab work, not to the biotech side and not to the bioinfo side too.
But it is good enough if you have the cell biology basic, just have to learn the IT part (thats what im doing now everyday, and to be honest, its tough!)

Have you been to interview anyway? Do you mean the interviewers said that you are not eligible because you don't know java and perl?
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Yes, they say i didn't have any programming or operating skills. They say they prefer candidate that have those skills. I just thinking i need to learn those myself. how you learn them? need to register any course or can download the program myself and do self-learning?
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post May 21 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Bravo Fashion Trends @ May 21 2010, 09:13 AM)
Yes, they say i didn't have any programming or operating skills. They say they prefer candidate that have those skills. I just thinking i need to learn those myself. how you learn them? need to register any course or can download the program myself and do self-learning?
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Hmm, Im pretty surprised that they will say that. Well its true that they prefer people with real bioinfo background, but the fact is this type of expertise is too limited in msia. So most of the companies will take in biotech/biochem/genetics graduates. (and you have a masters! that should be an add point) May I know which company you went for interview, if you dont mind smile.gif

For me, my seniors in the company are guiding me but since they are really busy, lots of self learning too. I guess you can start with good bioinfo books, and follow the steps and do it on your own computer (softwares needed by the way). And google is your best friend too, always google!

I am a beginner in bioinfo too, cant give you much advice, sorry. But back to the biotech graduates' fate in msia, in my humble opinion, there are jobs available when you really look and do your homework. Many companies don't advertise, so you need to google a lot, go to their website, email them....etc. just try your best, thats what I think.



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post May 21 2010, 12:57 PM

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the biotech friends whom i know, only 1 of them working in a related field... others, working for bank right now =x
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post May 22 2010, 02:13 AM

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to rach_: there is a month where i was in Singapore doing a visit to my sister. The company is in Singapore, but i am not so convenient to tell the name of the company so clearly here. There is also one company that is not main in Bioinfo, but doing other research in Selangor. I actually having an interview for other position, and thepeople say they also have vacancy in Bioinfo. But they say i lack of that skills.

I was busy depositing resume nowadays to any related company that i found on website. Hope that they suddenly have a vacancy offer to me, if i am lucky.


to minnymin: my friends all went into insurance, and sales.
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post May 22 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Bravo Fashion Trends @ May 22 2010, 02:13 AM)
to rach_: there is a month where i was in Singapore doing a visit to my sister. The company is in Singapore, but i am not so convenient to tell the name of the company so clearly here. There is also one company that is not main in Bioinfo, but doing other research in Selangor. I actually having an interview for other position, and thepeople say they also have vacancy in Bioinfo. But they say i lack of that skills.

I was busy depositing resume nowadays to any related company that i found on website. Hope that they suddenly have a vacancy offer to me, if i am lucky.
to minnymin: my friends all went into insurance, and sales.
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Yes good idea. Just send in your resume to anywhere. Good Luck smile.gif
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post May 23 2010, 11:35 AM

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hey well i m the postgraduate of the biotech, so it is true that it damn hard to get a job in biotech relate field after those biotech postgraduate student graduate. I thought they say that our government are encourage the develop of biotech industry in m'sia? Frankly i m kinda of scared after c what u guy said
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QUOTE(cherlynIN @ May 23 2010, 11:35 AM)
hey well i m the postgraduate of the biotech, so it is true that it damn hard to get a job in biotech relate field after those biotech postgraduate  student graduate. I thought they say that our government are encourage the develop of biotech industry in m'sia?  Frankly i m kinda of scared after c what u guy said
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postgrad master or phd? so have u graduated or not? if yes then u should share your experience with us right?
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post May 23 2010, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 23 2010, 04:54 PM)
postgrad master or phd? so have u graduated or not? if yes then u should share your experience with us right?
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oppsss sorry i mean i still the one that did undergraduate but my friend the one that did the postgraduate but not yet graduate. Sorry sorry sorry sorry ...
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post May 24 2010, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(cherlynIN @ May 23 2010, 10:42 PM)
oppsss sorry i mean i still the one that did undergraduate but my friend the one that did the postgraduate but not yet graduate. Sorry sorry sorry sorry ...
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Haha, I was about to say: you did not check the job opportunities in the market before you decided to do postgraduate??
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post May 24 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 24 2010, 10:07 AM)
Haha, I was about to say: you did not check the job opportunities in the market before you decided to do postgraduate??
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of course i do check it. It can be a good opportunity to find the job in overseas. but, since the economic is not good at this moment, no country will open so much opportunity for foreigner. i would say may be the job opportunity is not as fast as people doing marketing, engineer or accounting. but, pls don't look down on people graduate from biotechnology cause they are a group of skills people who can be train in many sciences field. I have certain job offer too from vaccines,pattern,plant company, cancer. but just depend is it the field that i really want myself to be train. i am still looking for the field that i really want.
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QUOTE(Bravo Fashion Trends @ May 24 2010, 01:58 PM)
of course i do check it. It can be a good opportunity to find the job in overseas. but, since the economic is not good at this moment, no country will open so much opportunity for foreigner. i would say may be the job opportunity is not as fast as people doing marketing, engineer or accounting. but, pls don't look down on people graduate from biotechnology cause they are a group of skills people who can be train in many sciences field.  I have certain job offer too from vaccines,pattern,plant company, cancer. but just depend is it the field that i really want myself to be train. i am still looking for the field that i really want.
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Hi, sorry if I made you misunderstand. I am referring to cherlynIN's post:

"hey well i m the postgraduate of the biotech, so it is true that it damn hard to get a job in biotech relate field after those biotech postgraduate student graduate. I thought they say that our government are encourage the develop of biotech industry in m'sia? Frankly i m kinda of scared after c what u guy said"

I just wanna say it is a need to survey for the job market before you decide something, for example furthering your studies. There is no point in going to phd just because "most of my friends did it". And then got scared after realizing there are limited job offers.
I did life science because I love it, without checking out its job opportunities, job scope,.....etc. I regretted for not thinking thorough enough before I took my degree. But at the end of the day, I never regret taking my course because I found my passion and love in science. The dream of changing the world into a better place, environmental-wise or medical-wise, is still in us science graduates, no matter how stupid it sounds to others.

I think we all life science graduates should have more confidence in ourselves and all the knowledge we have, even if we have to do sales or pathology lab assistants to feed ourselves for the time being, we shouldn't let our dreams die. We should keep learning and updating ourselves, read journals and science news even if you've left the university, the passion is very important!
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i gt an offer fr a plant tissue culture company at penang. i agree tht da salary is nt high but sure gt increment after about 1 yr. effort and passion is da important ting if u wan to involve in biotech field. m'sia actually hav alot of biotech de company but due to racism then sum of the races won't able to have work til now.. u can check da biotechcorp de website.
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post May 24 2010, 06:23 PM

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what company is that? Im thinking of working in penang also. Do i need plant tissue culture experience only can work or any biotech grad?
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post May 24 2010, 07:01 PM

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to be honest most of the companies only employ malays
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post May 24 2010, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ May 24 2010, 07:01 PM)
to be honest most of the companies only employ malays
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u r wrong. I dont agree. If u say that regarding to gevernment then you are right. But private they employ anyone who is suitable
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post May 24 2010, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Fenris Wolf @ May 24 2010, 08:04 PM)
u r wrong. I dont agree. If u say that regarding to gevernment then you are right. But private they employ anyone who is suitable
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hmm.. depends on da company.. but mostly hope to employ experience person in their company.. at least wat u did on ur final year project.. hmm.. yes.. most of da company wich da founder will try to employ according to their skin colour..
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post May 24 2010, 08:47 PM

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Well because the entire biotech thing is by the government. All the companies included-GLCs. And most of them maintain a policy of 100% bumiputra. They hire only malays, and thats the truth. Try checking out the profiles of the companies in biotechcorp.

Lol even that website is almost dead with no updates whatsoever for some time. It shows how much biotech developed. From a "extremely hyped over field" to a 'dying field".

There are positions available for lab technicians and so on, but sad to say their requirements- Minimum SPM in science background. The degree is like hmm a waste then. For scientists positions---> minimum masters + experience or phd, and they are very specific as to which part of biotech they require.
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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ May 24 2010, 08:47 PM)
Well because the entire biotech thing is by the government. All the companies included-GLCs. And most of them maintain a policy of 100% bumiputra. They hire only malays, and thats the truth. Try checking out the profiles of the companies in biotechcorp.

Lol even that website is almost dead with no updates whatsoever for some time. It shows how much biotech developed. From a "extremely hyped over field" to a 'dying field".

There are positions available for lab technicians and so on, but sad to say their requirements- Minimum SPM in science background. The degree is like hmm a waste then. For scientists positions---> minimum masters + experience or phd, and they are very specific as to which part of biotech they require.
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hmm.. u r right.. all of da biotech companies r glc linked.. but nt all r conquered by bumiputras.. there r still A FEW companies wich is nt owned by the malays.. if u continue til master o phd in biotech, i doubt u can a job in da malaysia market.. except becum a lecturer.. if u grad as a master o phd, u muz at least hav experience in the related field..

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post May 24 2010, 09:30 PM

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how can u say

" if u continue til master o phd in biotech, i doubt u can a job in da malaysia market.. except becum a lecturer.. if u grad as a master o phd, u muz at least hav experience in the related field.."

there are examples where they require master or phd.. why cant get job?

when u are bachelor u complain cant get job becoz need master or phd.. now u say got master phd cant get job.. wat u trying to say? conclusion is u cant get job?
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QUOTE(Fenris Wolf @ May 24 2010, 09:30 PM)
how can u say

" if u continue til master o phd in biotech, i doubt u can a job in da malaysia market.. except becum a lecturer.. if u grad as a master o phd, u muz at least hav experience in the related field.."

there are examples where they require master or phd.. why cant get job?

when u are bachelor u complain cant get job becoz need master or phd.. now u say got master phd cant get job.. wat u trying to say? conclusion is u cant get job?
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wat i try to mention here is biotech de company require a more specific skills u hav like microbiology, molecular biology o plant tissue culture.. for master grad to enter a job in m'sia market, da company will look for a experience ppl rather thn u a fresh master grad..

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