QUOTE(bomberkenny @ May 10 2010, 12:53 AM)
wat do you mean by no high pay?lower than 2k i heard the salary
is it true?
Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?
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May 27 2010, 01:06 AM
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May 27 2010, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 26 2010, 11:08 PM) work at germany?? wah.. nt bad ma.. ermm.. i biotech also but specialize at plant tissue culture, will start work at mnc (japanese plant tissue culture company) at sg jawi.. bioinfo.. i tink if nt mistaken, kl gt two companies onli.. one is MGRC another i forgot da name ady.. hmm.. a friend of mine also work at MGRC.. during interview, my friend told me tht gt iq quiz de.. i dun knw wat is ur friend company name?? sg jawi in penang u mean? they have plant tissue culture company? oh i never knew......hmm. There r more bioinfo companies in msia than u think Regarding what a biotech company wants....I once went to interview in a biotech company in penang, they are producing antibodies and other secondary proteins. They need people with experience in cloning. But the pay is too low with 1 year contract (under government program), so I turned it down even it is near to my house. N now im in kl! For bioinfo, hmm.....programming not necessarily, u always pick up over time. But I think the most important thing is the biology background. Cell biology, biochemistry, genetics or microbiology-basics will be useful. Your friend working in mgrc? hmm, i might know him/her then This post has been edited by rach_: May 27 2010, 08:33 AM |
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May 27 2010, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 08:32 AM) sg jawi in penang u mean? they have plant tissue culture company? oh i never knew......hmm. There r more bioinfo companies in msia than u think da company u mentioned in penang izzit at penang science park de us company?? rach, wich company r u working at kl?? btw, u mentioned low salary ah?? izzit below 2k?? if like tht, thn i can hav zero income ady?? n yes it is da sg jawi at penang mainland.. mine new job salary is near reach 2k..Regarding what a biotech company wants....I once went to interview in a biotech company in penang, they are producing antibodies and other secondary proteins. They need people with experience in cloning. But the pay is too low with 1 year contract (under government program), so I turned it down even it is near to my house. N now im in kl! For bioinfo, hmm.....programming not necessarily, u always pick up over time. But I think the most important thing is the biology background. Cell biology, biochemistry, genetics or microbiology-basics will be useful. Your friend working in mgrc? hmm, i might know him/her then This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 09:25 AM |
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May 27 2010, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 09:23 AM) da company u mentioned in penang izzit at penang science park de us company?? rach, wich company r u working at kl?? btw, u mentioned low salary ah?? izzit below 2k?? if like tht, thn i can hav zero income ady?? n yes it is da sg jawi at penang mainland.. mine new job salary is near reach 2k.. Is in penang biotech park, bukit minyak. That job is quite interesting too, because it involves protocol designing too, not only routine lab work. The contract is under government's plan, 1500 for 1 year, can't leave unless u reach 12 months. So, i tried my luck in KL. Have to be far from home thats the only drawback. Other than that, I love my current job There is another company in Kulim. Pay not bad too. Is a US company if im not wrong. Your pay should be not too bad, its ok to start with lower pay, experience is more worthy, right? So what your job scope covers? You love it? |
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May 27 2010, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 10:15 AM) Is in penang biotech park, bukit minyak. That job is quite interesting too, because it involves protocol designing too, not only routine lab work. The contract is under government's plan, 1500 for 1 year, can't leave unless u reach 12 months. So, i tried my luck in KL. Have to be far from home thats the only drawback. Other than that, I love my current job hmm.. actually wat i did for my final year project is relate wif plant tissue culture de.. so i hav the interest in tht field.. wat is my job scope ah?? hmm.. i still nt sure becoz it is my new job.. haven't start yet.. will start work on 1st of june.. for wat i knw during interview is prepare medium, culture n doing r&d if the company hav profit.. da company produce mericlones for orchids n sum ornamental plants.. so can i knw wat is ur current job scope?? o u also work in MGRC?? btw, previously i work in engineering field de.. after hav sum savings, thn i quit da job n wait for 3 months ++ be4 secure dis ptc job.. haha..There is another company in Kulim. Pay not bad too. Is a US company if im not wrong. Your pay should be not too bad, its ok to start with lower pay, experience is more worthy, right? So what your job scope covers? You love it? |
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May 27 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 10:32 AM) hmm.. actually wat i did for my final year project is relate wif plant tissue culture de.. so i hav the interest in tht field.. wat is my job scope ah?? hmm.. i still nt sure becoz it is my new job.. haven't start yet.. will start work on 1st of june.. for wat i knw during interview is prepare medium, culture n doing r&d if the company hav profit.. da company produce mericlones for orchids n sum ornamental plants.. so can i knw wat is ur current job scope?? o u also work in MGRC?? btw, previously i work in engineering field de.. after hav sum savings, thn i quit da job n wait for 3 months ++ be4 secure dis ptc job.. haha.. Oh wow, u insisted to be in biotech field then? bravo, good for u, our field needs more people like you.I am a bioinformatician. my job scope includes all the bioinformatics stuff but mainly in genomic area only (not touching on proteomic currently), like analyzing sequenced data, optimizing pipeline, ..... etc. but the main thing im doing now is learning programming script, because I had no experience in this at all during my uni days. |
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May 27 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 12:06 PM) Oh wow, u insisted to be in biotech field then? bravo, good for u, our field needs more people like you. hmm.. nw i m wondering if u work at MGRC, thn ur result suld b excellent n also during da iq / logic test.. becoz MGRC is veli hard to enter want.. haha.. becoz tht of friend is a first class degree for biotech.. n da pay is nt bad among all biotech companies n also da medical underwriter.. haha.. btw.. da benefit at MGRC also nt bad.. haiz.. too bad tht i can't enter.. haha..I am a bioinformatician. my job scope includes all the bioinformatics stuff but mainly in genomic area only (not touching on proteomic currently), like analyzing sequenced data, optimizing pipeline, ..... etc. but the main thing im doing now is learning programming script, because I had no experience in this at all during my uni days. Added on May 27, 2010, 12:29 pm QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 12:25 PM) hmm.. nw i m wondering if u work at MGRC, thn ur result suld b excellent n also during da iq / logic test.. becoz MGRC is veli hard to enter want.. haha.. becoz tht of friend is a first class degree for biotech.. n da pay is nt bad among all biotech companies n also da medical underwriter.. haha.. btw.. da benefit at MGRC also nt bad.. haiz.. too bad tht i can't enter.. haha.. ya.. i would like to work at da job i passion for.. hmm.. of coz salary also play an important role in it.. n thn da company background.. if too low, i also can't survive.. haha.. thn u rach, u work for hw long ady as a bioinfomatician?? u grad fr wich uni?? biotech also??This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 12:29 PM |
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there is a company called aar in semenyih also wan employ ppl
3 k. go and have a look Added on May 27, 2010, 1:22 pmbiotech graduates can work as bioinfo? This post has been edited by happy_pink: May 27 2010, 01:22 PM |
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QUOTE(happy_pink @ May 27 2010, 01:10 PM) there is a company called aar in semenyih also wan employ ppl hmm.. my result nt reali tht excellent.. plus i do nt hav any experience.. so at da moment, i tink i won't apply yet.. yes biotech grad can work as bioinfo.. even for computer science also can work as bioinfo.. even engineering background also.. haha.. i grad fr biotech but also can at engineering post.. fr assistant engineer to production engineer.. y can't?? if u hav da will, u sure will find da way..3 k. go and have a look Added on May 27, 2010, 1:22 pmbiotech graduates can work as bioinfo? This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 02:02 PM |
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May 27 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 12:25 PM) hmm.. nw i m wondering if u work at MGRC, thn ur result suld b excellent n also during da iq / logic test.. becoz MGRC is veli hard to enter want.. haha.. becoz tht of friend is a first class degree for biotech.. n da pay is nt bad among all biotech companies n also da medical underwriter.. haha.. btw.. da benefit at MGRC also nt bad.. haiz.. too bad tht i can't enter.. haha.. Aha, I guess I know who is your friend Added on May 27, 2010, 12:29 pm ya.. i would like to work at da job i passion for.. hmm.. of coz salary also play an important role in it.. n thn da company background.. if too low, i also can't survive.. haha.. thn u rach, u work for hw long ady as a bioinfomatician?? u grad fr wich uni?? biotech also?? Medical underwriter needs to be experienced in writing scientific or medical articles right? I don't realize that getting in MGRC is tough, I have no friends applying to this company too, but MGRC do need more staffs, did you try your luck? I graduated in Uni of Adelaide, degree in biotech, honours in biochemistry. |
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 02:08 PM) Aha, I guess I know who is your friend huh?? u can guess?? ru sure of it?? o u wan to play a fool of me.. hmm.. nid many staffs?? no wo.. for wat i heard fr my friend, most of da staffs r bumiputeras n sum of them even r relatives.. swt.. dun knw eh.. i gt send my resume to them be4.. haha.. mayb my result do nt satisfy da upper management..Medical underwriter needs to be experienced in writing scientific or medical articles right? I don't realize that getting in MGRC is tough, I have no friends applying to this company too, but MGRC do need more staffs, did you try your luck? I graduated in Uni of Adelaide, degree in biotech, honours in biochemistry. |
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May 27 2010, 02:18 PM
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i saw overseas need many biotech ppl
but the requirements is phd or master so actually biotech not that bad is it? y u all don wan further your studies maybe can become lecturer |
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May 27 2010, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(happy_pink @ May 27 2010, 02:18 PM) i saw overseas need many biotech ppl hmm.. u tink da path to obtain a master o phd easy?? depends u under wich supervisor.. if ur supervisor kind n gud, may u juz nid 1.5-2 yrs to finish ur master.. for da worse case, it takes even 5 yrs n sum of my friend also quit it half way through.. they r black n white whn u enroll to master.. like da duration of ur project nid to be completed, if nt, da fund o expanses of ur project u nid to bear it urself.. in a nutshell, it is quite a risky path among all diff fields of postgraduate studies..but the requirements is phd or master so actually biotech not that bad is it? y u all don wan further your studies maybe can become lecturer This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 02:24 PM |
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May 27 2010, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 02:16 PM) huh?? u can guess?? ru sure of it?? o u wan to play a fool of me.. hmm.. nid many staffs?? no wo.. for wat i heard fr my friend, most of da staffs r bumiputeras n sum of them even r relatives.. swt.. dun knw eh.. i gt send my resume to them be4.. haha.. mayb my result do nt satisfy da upper management.. Yes is a guy right. Not playing la. Hmm....the ratio of race here is quite balance, its a mix. MGRC has many subsidiaries, the composition of race is slightly different for each subsidiary. Good luck in your new job then |
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 02:26 PM) Yes is a guy right. Not playing la. oo.. okok.. i try ask my friend n c whether he knw u o nt.. haha.. i knw it is a mix.. hmm.. mayb next time i will try to send my resume to MGRC.. i won't give up so easily in order to achieve my dream.. hmm.. if nt mistaken ur name is racheal am i rite?? nice to meet u by the way..Hmm....the ratio of race here is quite balance, its a mix. MGRC has many subsidiaries, the composition of race is slightly different for each subsidiary. Good luck in your new job then |
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May 27 2010, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(happy_pink @ May 27 2010, 02:18 PM) i saw overseas need many biotech ppl Well, be lecturer is not a bad choice. Even degree graduates can be lecturer nowadays, depending on universities. but the requirements is phd or master so actually biotech not that bad is it? y u all don wan further your studies maybe can become lecturer Further studies take a long way, u have to be sure u want to commit and spend time and money and go down the research path, before u can take phd. I thought of phd last year, but I cant see myself in the research path forever yet, I prefer to have some working experience earn some money. Being a poor scientist is a very tough life. There are a lot of things to consider. One problem with malaysians is that we have too much of misconceptions and wrong mindsets. We think being a lecturer/doctor/lawyer/engineer is awesome, but those terms are so general. Doctor, what kind of doctor, ethical doctor or money-oriented doctor? We generalize and group people according to their career, which doesnt make sense. One person can be brilliant and wise but lack a bit of luck, or the other way round. (ok maybe a bit off topic here...sorry) Added on May 27, 2010, 2:34 pm QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 02:30 PM) oo.. okok.. i try ask my friend n c whether he knw u o nt.. haha.. i knw it is a mix.. hmm.. mayb next time i will try to send my resume to MGRC.. i won't give up so easily in order to achieve my dream.. hmm.. if nt mistaken ur name is racheal am i rite?? nice to meet u by the way.. Dont ask la!! keep it this way okie This post has been edited by rach_: May 27 2010, 02:34 PM |
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May 27 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 02:32 PM) Well, be lecturer is not a bad choice. Even degree graduates can be lecturer nowadays, depending on universities. wah.. u reply so fast.. ok la.. i won't ask.. Further studies take a long way, u have to be sure u want to commit and spend time and money and go down the research path, before u can take phd. I thought of phd last year, but I cant see myself in the research path forever yet, I prefer to have some working experience earn some money. Being a poor scientist is a very tough life. There are a lot of things to consider. One problem with malaysians is that we have too much of misconceptions and wrong mindsets. We think being a lecturer/doctor/lawyer/engineer is awesome, but those terms are so general. Doctor, what kind of doctor, ethical doctor or money-oriented doctor? We generalize and group people according to their career, which doesnt make sense. One person can be brilliant and wise but lack a bit of luck, or the other way round. (ok maybe a bit off topic here...sorry) Added on May 27, 2010, 2:34 pm Dont ask la!! keep it this way okie Added on May 27, 2010, 3:13 pm QUOTE(rach_ @ May 27 2010, 08:32 AM) sg jawi in penang u mean? they have plant tissue culture company? oh i never knew......hmm. There r more bioinfo companies in msia than u think hmm.. can i ask u one ting, at sg jawi.. izzit veli hard to find house to rent??Regarding what a biotech company wants....I once went to interview in a biotech company in penang, they are producing antibodies and other secondary proteins. They need people with experience in cloning. But the pay is too low with 1 year contract (under government program), so I turned it down even it is near to my house. N now im in kl! For bioinfo, hmm.....programming not necessarily, u always pick up over time. But I think the most important thing is the biology background. Cell biology, biochemistry, genetics or microbiology-basics will be useful. Your friend working in mgrc? hmm, i might know him/her then This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 03:13 PM |
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Well, after browsing through all the comments here, i would say MOST people hold a bleak perspective towards Biotech fields.
I don't know about the real biotech company out there and their needs of any specialised skills but i can reassure you that as long as you have the right and proper lab skills, u r eligible to enter the fields. Lab skills are what most people tend to neglect. they often think that the theory they learn in the book such as Biotech algae, plants, animals, proteins etc would actually be what they interested in only without even cares for their lab practical skills. take for an exp, during my lab session , my biocell lecturer ask us on why we should place the bacteria culture upside down instead of putting it upright? well, many seems to be have no response, and guess what, NONE of them ever ask WHY is that so. At the end of the lecture, my lecturer just ask us to go back to look for the answer. Thus, from this scenario, u could easily sense that the attitudes is what matter the most when it comes to ASKING! As a science student we should never ever forget the Inquisitive attitudes. that is we have to be observant and curious and ask more than what the lecturers could answer us. Perhaps, they lack of that!~ I believe Biotech would be a very emerging and challenging field for the years to come . So fellow friends out there, do equipped yourself with the neccessary knowledege and skill to prepare urself to this challenging fields ~ |
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QUOTE(xaviereo @ May 27 2010, 01:24 PM) hmm.. u tink da path to obtain a master o phd easy?? depends u under wich supervisor.. if ur supervisor kind n gud, may u juz nid 1.5-2 yrs to finish ur master.. for da worse case, it takes even 5 yrs n sum of my friend also quit it half way through.. they r black n white whn u enroll to master.. like da duration of ur project nid to be completed, if nt, da fund o expanses of ur project u nid to bear it urself.. in a nutshell, it is quite a risky path among all diff fields of postgraduate studies.. wellwan to become a successful scientist sure have to sacrifice something if so easy many also can enter then malysia will be full of phd |
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QUOTE(happy_pink @ May 27 2010, 03:46 PM) well hope wat u sacrifice for is worth it.. n as i said, if u hav da will, u hav da way... n one more ting, normal grade de lecturer also won't hav tht high salary unless u r ady at associate professor n higher level..wan to become a successful scientist sure have to sacrifice something if so easy many also can enter then malysia will be full of phd Added on May 27, 2010, 3:51 pm QUOTE(happy_pink @ May 27 2010, 01:10 PM) there is a company called aar in semenyih also wan employ ppl by the way, da aar company is a nt bad company after i c thru da website.. so r u a worker fr there o u r still study degree student??3 k. go and have a look Added on May 27, 2010, 1:22 pmbiotech graduates can work as bioinfo? This post has been edited by xaviereo: May 27 2010, 03:51 PM |
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