just afraid the watch might looks weird on my hand.. any bro kind enuff to borrow me try their c3 or c9 before i make up my mind?

can ask if oris and louis erard,with 1 better ?

then brand same right ?Oris BC3 Advanced BC3 good or not ?how much now ?

NOMOS Press Release
Made in Glashütte, Germany

Protected designation of origin, quality characteristic - and why a judgement is important for the watchmaking town.

Glashütte, April 2007. Glashütte is a small city in eastern Germany in which some of the world’s best watches have been built for over 160 years. Germany is the home of the Volkswagen and the Werkbund, of Leitz and Leica, Bosch and Bauhaus. Germany, the country that is known for outstanding quality, design and engineering. Made in Glashütte, Made in Germany – both are protected designations of origin with an international reputation. And both are protected, a mark of quality such as "Cognac“, "Swiss Watches“ or "Parma Ham“. It is therefore only watches in which over 50 percent of their movements’ value has been created on location that may be sold as "Glashütte Watches“.
NOMOS Glashütte was the first brand, which was able to build a mechanical watch with the protected designation of origin “Glashütte“ after 1990. Because the designation “Glashütte“ is so prized, NOMOS carries, as do the city’s other manufactories, the city’s name on its letter head: Lange’s official name is “A. Lange & Söhne Glashütte i/SA“; the watches of Glashütte Original are made in the "Glashütter Uhrenbetrieb” (Glashütte watch factory – abbreviation: GUB) and NOMOS is called "NOMOS Glashütte/SA“. Even Germany’s largest watch and jewellery dealer, the Hamburg firm Wempe, now makes watches in Glashütte together with NOMOS and is represented on site with its own company: the “Wempe Chronometerwerke Glashütte/SA“.
The Munich District Court I has just given an extra boost to Glashütte as a protected designation of origin. With its final judgment of 02.27.2007 – not yet legally binding as of early April – a competitor was prosecuted for advertising his watches with the protected designation of origin, “Glashütte“, and this because the majority of the watches’ parts were not, as required, produced in Glashütte.

The convicted manufacturer may continue to sell his watches. The protected and value increasing “Glashütte“ may not, however, be written on his watches or used to advertise them as long as the majority of the calibres’ valuable parts are not made in Glashütte. NOMOS Glashütte believes that this judgment is fair and just, for it is in the watchmaking city’s interest, as well as that of consumers who trust in quality from Glashütte, to protect the high quality standard. And in the interest of each and every watchmaker who invests in the small Saxon city’s watchmaking and precisions mechanics.
In this way the judgement has helped to create jobs, because soon everybody and anybody who works in Glashütte will be “in the watch,“ as the saying goes. And the more parts that are built on location, the more work people have to do. Everything that is built somewhere else, produced abroad for less, destroys jobs and hurts the reputation of “Made in Glashütte“ and “Made in Germany”.
(Glashütte 2007, April)

Nice-What prices do they go for & where can one buy them?

Hi sifus.  My Tag quartz batt just died. How much if I wanna change the batt and any place that I can get it cheap? This is my first time going to change batt.

thats one beautiful watch man. how much does it cost? and how long does it take to be shipped?
btw i'm now looking for a rectangle watch. budget below 3k if possible. looking for one to wear everyday. any suggestions? thanks guys.

thank you all sifu & taiko on recommendation.. stowa really suites my budget & needs... but the lay back is the shipping time...

btw i have a friend in HK now and im asking her to check out Tissot price for me there as they have newer models & option compared to M'sia...

if all else fails.. will be going for Stowa Marine Auto with Blue Hands ^^ love it a lot !!!

thanks man. will check it out. btw bro do you recommend any rectangular watches for below 3k?

miles ahead huuh ?? hmm... with additional 700 MYR... hmmm....

eying on the Marine Auto White Dial with Blue hands... seems a very decent piece of watch...

Orient and Seiko are both good, I think if you insist on automatic watch, then stick to your decision do not influenced by the sales girl (even how pretty is she).
Seiko 5 has lower profit margin, city chain chuck those watches at a hidden corner one, they don earn much.

RM500 could try some seiko 5 sports.
Orient I have no experience but their entry level not as tough as seiko I think.

Depends on one's preference. The build quality of JDM is on par, if not better than the entry level Swiss counterparts. IMHO.
And mind you, Seiko build their watches 100% in-house, whereas entry level Swiss using ETA and outsource the case to other manufacturers.
At the end of the day, choose whatever you like and enjoy it 

This is very informative finding by someone in Rolex forum and posted in MWF.

Mühle GmbH  declared insolvency!

Glashütte is a city in Saxony, Germany, which is the birthplace of the watches of the same name.  Watch brands made in connection with this location include A. Lange & Söhne, Glashütte Original, Mühle Glashütte/SA and Nomos.  Only those companies which create more than 50% of their movements' value in and around Glashütte can have the town's name certifying its watches.  Just as is the case with Swiss watches, Parma ham or French champagne, the following applies: only those products which are truly produced in Switzerland, Parma or Champagne, may be sold with that specific appellation of origin.  In the case of Glashutte-born watches, this guarantees the customer the highest horological quality.

NOMOS designs, develops, and manufactures its own movements in Glashütte and earlier this year insisted that not only should Glashütte Original, Lange & Söhne and themselves abide by the "Glashütte Rule," but Mühle Glashutte GmbH as well.  NOMOS brought a lawsuit against Muhle GmbH which has now resulted in the company declaring insolvency due to its apparent inability to manufacture products without violating the criteria of value creation.  The parts in the movements of c. 25k Mühle watches were sold with a "Glashütte" designation of origin, but were not predominately produced in Glashütte as required, leading the judges to declare that this constituted a direct violation of the competition law (the so-named "Glashütte Rule"). 

Muhle GmbH is heavily in debt as a result of the lawsuit and reported that: '...we are forced to set up reserves amounting to 63 million Euros. Hence, in our balance sheets, liabilities exceed our assets'.  The company also said that: 'After court proceedings with the local competitor in 2002 we accepted a settlement and started immediate steps for changes in our production. Additional product refinements resulted in a substantial increase of the proportion of components that are manufactured and finished in our plant. The opponent considered these measures to be insufficient and brought up a new action against Mühle-Glashütte GmbH which the Munich County Court sustained in February 2007'.

However, Muhle GmbH is preparing for a future: Thilo Mühle anticipates that insolvency plan proceedings will help him implement his aims and, above all, maintain jobs and create new ones in the company.  Indeed, as Juliet declared in the famous Shakespeare play: "A rose by any other name, would smell as sweet".

A few years ago, it became known that ETA decided to no longer supply companies with ébauche kits. Has NOMOS been affected by this?
NOMOS is not endangered by this decision, for NOMOS Glashütte no longer uses ETA movements. This decision is aimed at all the black sheep who use ETA movements in forgeries, thus damaging the good name of ETA. However, NOMOS movements are our own and are made in Glashütte. Whether automatic or manually wound, our movements are of the highest precision and feature horological specialties such as the Glashütte three-quarter plate, a Triovis fine adjustment system, stop-seconds, tempered blue screws, sunburst decoration, and Glashütte ribbing. The work performed on every watch is mainly work done by hand. If it serves quality and precision, however, we at NOMOS Glashütte do use high-tech production methods such as CNC and laser technology. Only individual parts such as jewels, which we use as bearings in the movements, are purchased from suppliers according to our designs.

I am afraid the zenith daytona movement are more expensive to service/maintain/rapair, problem might occour in future parts needs special order & ppl RSC can't repair. Kindly correct me, if im wrong..
no intention to hurt zenith daytona collectors.. 

taiko's

any other recommendation for budget of
- 500 to 1k
- retailer locatable in Klang Valley
- classic design / simple n nice design (time & date)
- automatic or static or solar powered
- see through back case
- prefer leather or rubber strap

since its my very 1st watch... having heavy hearts to go straight for stowa which will cost me 3k hard earned money ><

yeah. leather. date if possible. i dont think i have many options for the price i'm paying right?

patryn33 ... im quite a basher. i think zenith daytona hard to get furthermore a pre-owned model takut previous owner never service/basher etc. i prefer the white dial, coz the black rings nice.
i saw once in mudah, ss white zenith going for abt 22k .. miss that boat. 

I am only studying on rolex models not sure about other brands.

From the choices u provided only germany is cheapest after VAT refund.

Another cheaper place to get rolex is at japan:

http://www.u-s.co.jp/

http://www.jackroad.co.jp/

http://www.909.co.jp/ --> high quality 2nd hand with offer 3 - 12 years warranty

we can get 5% tax refund as well from japan.

I am talking about brand new rolex in Germany and as well as at Japan.

For the first and 2nd link r both for brand new watch. I have never heard of ppl buying preowned from first and 2nd link before. Only the 3rd link ppl recommended for preowned.

I do not think 3rd link Quark is selling online.

movement
- stowa advantage is the further regulate (tune) the ETA 6498
- Archemede using ETA 6498-2 (mentioned in their forum while stock last)

http://www.tourbywatches.com/shop/article_...%26aid%3D305%26

price include tax euro 849 but this is hand winding... ??

I m not sure a lot or few but i have only seen ppl recommended these 2 shops. These 2 r reputated shop in japan. They do not sell online and they r not AD. You might be surprise when u buy from them and u see it is origin from malaysia!

By looking at the price stated on website it is definitely cheaper compare to AD in malaysia and sg. Buying from AD it is all depends on how good u and the sales person. Some ppl can get 15% discount for sports model becoz they r regular customer.

I am still scouting for my first rolex and thinking whether to buy locally or overseas. The only different with local i can pay by credit card installment with higher price or getting a cheaper price with cash at oversea.

You are comparing the new model for explorer I 39mm (214270) with old model 36mm (114270). Usually the ppl will state model code rather than model name because rolex always use back the same name.

I was scouting for 114270 before during Jun and cheapest japan selling price was 5300sgd compare to SG AD like ur listed price. Isnt it a lot ?

Anyway milgauss 116400 is dirty cheap now with japan selling sgd5800 and singapore AD selling 7900.

http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?46181...ber-2010/page12 (latest post by kclee)
http://www.u-s.co.jp/shop/goods/goods.aspx?goods=RX1661

anyway sg-roc is really a good place to learn about rolex.

hand winding... means i have self wind it every now n then ?....

guess they wud not advise u to get any one of these as they are not the watch makers.

greetings guys,
i am a student and i currently plan in buying a new watch.
can i know from you guys how is this citizen watches that are between rm500-700.
i went to this regular watch shop that i always go to and he has a variety of citizen watches tht are priced around that.
he even said tht its an automatic watch.