yes Steinhart, maybe debaufre etc.
basically post 1 page 1 would have a complete list of suggestion.

bearbear good luck finding the right watch!

the workmanship on Stowa is nicely done with a swan neck regulator.
its not easy to find 6498 on swan neck regulator at a good price, those tourby watches on same movement on swan neck cost over EUR$1.1K.
I was hunting for a swiss pocket watch movement with a swan neck regulator too at 1 pt, but I have yet to find anything lower than US$500.

from what I gather Steinhart most likely is using Standard grade. Stowa typically uses Elabore grade but they regulate it again to their specs.
Stowa is 1 of the few companies that disassemble the movement for inspection, maybe its redundant to do so. The extra labor adds cost.

bernhart watch maybe 1 of the cheapest watches with a Unitas 6497, but movement isn't decorated
http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/officerswatch.html




This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 22 2010, 11:04 AM

whats the resale value of entry level patek?
that Dornblueth & Sohn only cost ~US$3440 today, I have seen it gone for ~ US$2700-3k used over the last 2yrs.
http://market.watchprosite.com/show-forump.../ti-485996/s-0/

PP Aquanaut Jumbo 5065 retails @ SGD 25,900 and used is at 40% off.
http://visiotime.com.sg/index.php?page=ProductDetail&id=4079
PP Perpetual Calendar 5136 18 ct. Yellow Gold ; retailed at SGD 121,500 in the year 2007 now at SGD 59,900 used
http://visiotime.com.sg/index.php?page=ProductDetail&id=4077
this PP fetch a good price. Nautilus Chronograph Flyback 5980 retailing at SGD 65,200 with no discount; purchase now and save more than SGD 15K, only ~23% down.
http://visiotime.com.sg/index.php?page=ProductDetail&id=4060

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 22 2010, 06:37 PM

malaysia no tax. This topic have been ask maybe 3-4 time here already.
search tax on this thread and U'll find the answer

Price for the Bell & Ross Vintage BR 123 is US$2,900 and price for the Vintage BR 126 Heritage is US$4,200.
http://ablogtoread.com/bell-ross/bell-ross...ritage-watches/

anyone up for Equation of Time?
RGM Watch Company of Lancaster, PA. The Equation of Time Deck Watch (Model 22)
http://www.watchseller.com/eqoftimlimed1.html

http://www.watchfinder.net/EOTwatches.htm



This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 24 2010, 10:47 AM

budget?
checked page 1 post 1?

1st of all get over it guys... < > next time write in words best.
when I 1st saw I still think more than 500.
some ppl think in a different way. I did met 1 ppl who thinks thats lesser sign.

anyway with a budget of 500 RM if don't want Japan brands as they are not really good. U think 500 alot of money to get good watch?
seiko mind you makes GREAT watches. in fact their Grand Seiko maybe better than Rolex!
even Tag Heuer use a Seiko movement design to make their 1887 movement.
Casio make solid quartz watches, can take more shock than those Ball watches.

FYI Orient today is part of Seiko group.
Seiko group sales figure is the smallest among the big 3.
http://www.watchtime.com/2010/06/watch-sal...pans-big-three/

not heard of Bonia Tesoro. Fashion brand I presume. Did a quick google on it no idea where its made in.
for rm1.5K I wouldn't go for a fashion house brand other than Cartier/Chanel/Bvlgari/Chopard/Montblanc
go to page 1 post 1, U can find lots of watches in the range of 1.5k

no brainer! of course a Rolex Sub!
the reasons same as CK77

get a Seiko or Orient or Citizen, sure its not fashionable like Guess.
with Guess U are paying for the brand, and the watch is made in China.
I am not saying all chinese products are bad, they work and you can tell time on those watches esp they are quartz.
i have to say they do last until it goes out of fashion.

have u tried page 1 post 1?

what u looking for in auto watch?
going swimming with watch? diving?
size? bif/small?
chrono? date?
shape?
color?
branded? as in tissot or not so branded? as in stowa, CW? Guinand
more impt comfortable ordering online?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 3 2010, 09:07 PM

servicing would cost more.
then its just a 2892 plus a module, for that price not cheap.
it like getting 1 of those jean richard older chrono at a third of the cost.

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Added on October 4, 2010, 11:20 pmcannot see pic, state model or refer to their website

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 4 2010, 11:20 PM

you can afford a nice Stowa Antea with your budget.
2000RM is ~USD$630 or ~EUR$460

A Stowa Antea only cost ~US$430 add shipping thats still under US$500
http://www.german-watches.com/cgi-bin/lsho...&gesamt_zeilen=

U can try a Guinand too, at EUR$495 (that includes German VAT), you don't pay german VAT of 16% thats EUR$416+ add shipping it would still be in your budget.
they do not have a rich history like Stowa but they do have some. They build Sinn at 1 pt and may have even made Bell and Ross too.
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=179&Itemid=416

good value but little to no history.
-STEINHART "Aviation GMT automatic"
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...r=256&Sel_ID=25
-D. Freemont, this is at US$500 and all watches are timed just prior to shipping a copy of the actual computer setting is included.
http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm
sometimes they do list stuff on ebay too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=280571500400

ML i don't think with your budget can find anything, not even quartz iirc.

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Added on October 6, 2010, 5:35 amRolex datejust ladies iirc its ~15%
Tag Heuer its ~25%

discounts are controlled, attempt to pay cash and get the sales person to give you a better discount.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 6 2010, 10:11 AM

Seiko Japan Domestic Model.. hmm.. those entry level ones are at his budget
http://www.seiyajapan.com/category/3_seiko_quartz_etc_/

those Seiko JDM featuring 6R24 are pretty expensive.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/new-seiko...r24-328748.html

they don't according to here. but ppl have found ways to buy it!
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/new-poste...ion-447625.html

care to provide a review?

the word REPLICA that is shown on the site should tell u right?
and ad that says

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Added on October 7, 2010, 9:12 pmyes only online, good thing they have great return policy.
I and 3 or 4 others here have got from them without issue.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 8 2010, 06:20 AM