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post Dec 31 2011, 11:13 PM

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Congratulations to Bro Ricky for winning again in SG FS fights. rclxms.gif
Really enjoy seeing all the FS fights videos. I also wish i was there and can join u guys fight fs. drool.gif

To utility47: Can see King Kong fight at 1.50s vs Ricky spar Fs.



Picture:Kingkong right , Spar left.
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Last time bro jason caught King Kong from the FELCRA land area nearby my housing place. Tat time still sub adult male already have very good size.
Bro Ricky recent caught Sub adult male from Genting also very good size.. 7mm+.. after molt should hit 7.5-8mm or maybe more bigger size brows.gif .


QUOTE(utility47 @ Dec 31 2011, 08:56 PM)
First, thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.  Thanks to Randy for posting all the fights.  The one between Changi and Heartthrob is very exciting indeed.  Salomon Kane fought very well against LOL.

To Ricky: Thanks for the information about Ghost.  This is what I thought too.  It looks like a hybrid between the long thin green spider and our normal FS.  Have LOL, Changi and Kunatan fought one another? Looking forward to the performance of King Kong.  Any picture to show?

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post Jan 1 2012, 10:43 AM

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Hi.

I ' m actually referring to T-Bha sub adult... havent chg sking yet.

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Later after chg skin.. sure will get bigger because will eat and drink more.

To bro Mindstorm: I feel Ghost still in adult stage because can jump very far, climb up its own web and walk upside down/ side with its leg stick well.
This type of spider normally found on higher branches or leaves .. it dark brown colour is a good camouflage to hide from its enemy and hunt for its prey.
Last time the Malay kids that play with this spider will climb up trees to catch this Spider besi.. they told me Spider besi is the strongest among all the other spider like Spider Pandan and Spider Bandar. Reason? See Spider Besi teeth.... just only one strong bite can kill its opponent fast!
They will catch those spiders and put in see tru tupperware for death fight.


QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 1 2012, 10:07 AM)
To viper88: Thanks for the info about the T-sub that Ricky caught.  To me, the T-sub species is actually the same as our normal FS, except that they are larger.  Indeed, I think Ura did mention that T-sub is the brother of T-bha.

When I was younger, my friend did have one such big-sized spider.  Do not know whether it is a T-sub. It was “proud” and “arrogant”. :-) When other spiders are in fighting position, it simply gave a glance. Most of the times, the other spiders just run away.  Only the large chopsters are willing to give it a fight.  But because of its larger size, it simply pushes the chopsters away instead of gripping. 

Actually I have seen such large sized FS in Brunei jungles during my army days.  SG guys who have been to Brunei jungles will know what a jungle is and the yam/CB leaves are much bigger.  Not sure whether that’s why the spiders are larger too.
Are the T-subs of Ura imported? Wow, they must be quite expensive then.  It is also interesting to see that BTL is setting up a FS farm.  Hope that he succeeds. 

To mindstorm.  I must really thank you for reviving my childhood and many others’ childhood hobbies.  It is from one of your youtube videos that I was linked to here. 

BigHead is a prized spider.  May I know whether it is the “longest-living” spider in captivity? 4 months?

The mangrove spiders are also very fierce.  Saw that they will grip each other’s arms before fighting. Never seen one before.  What is their size?

Thanks for the update on Ghost.  I am surprised about its current situation because based on the pictures/videos vipper88 posted, it looked very healthy and confident.
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post Jan 1 2012, 12:50 PM

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Actually i dun keep track on all fs size.. As i recall.. Spawn and Fearless size close to 8mm.
Bro seng Fs 9mm drool.gif
Can use grid paper to measure.. those in between 7 -8 mm for me consider good size already.

FS size estimation. U can refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+1180

This morning after gave water for my fs to drink.. let them fight each other.
Not much exciting fight just pushing and light chop/throw only..
Some pics and videos. icon_rolleyes.gif

Cyberion vs Galaxion (Cyberion won)
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Hyperion vs Cyberion. (Hyperion won)
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Hyperion caught on 27 Nov.. now already 1 month+


QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 1 2012, 12:27 PM)
Hi viper88, sorry for the confusion and thks for the clarification.  I notice that you have been recording the FS’s size.  Is the record still held by spider Fearless?
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Fearless brother icon_idea.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+1440

QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 1 2012, 03:54 PM)
9mm? wow? any picture/videos to show?
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More pics.

Cyberion
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Hyperion with Galaxion.
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post Jan 2 2012, 08:38 PM

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Hyperion size is abt 7.5-8.0mm.
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I didnt measure Archilles on grid paper size bfr.
Archilles is smaller abit than BigHead. Bighead size on paper grid abt 7.5mm.

QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 2 2012, 03:45 PM)
Hyperion's arms are longer and looks more active.  To date, is Achilles your largest FS?
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Added on January 2, 2012, 10:25 pmIts alwys interesting to read Bro Randy posting and exciting to see all the FS fight videos posted thumbup.gif
Really "pui fuk" respect u guys at SG show so much eagerness to hunt FS early morning on the 1st day of new yr. rclxms.gif
So many FS kakis, FS and so many FS fights in one day. thumbup.gif

Really exciting to see Red Devil vs Rotweller. Rotweller eventhough slightly smaller and shorter arm length but still able to give good fight and win over Red Devil.
Red Devil have nice unique fighting stance and charging towards Rotweller to fight.
Can see Red Devil standing taller, faster arm pushing and fought back when get push back/chop lightly 3x bfr retreat.
Good fight between these 2 different Thiania species rclxms.gif

King Kong fights also impressive. Its fighting confident and will improves.
Managed to win a small size and a large size FS thumbup.gif

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Congratulation to Bro Rudy for winning the earlier Simei FS match. rclxms.gif
Still remember his Crixus able to hold abt 3 chops bfr retreat when vs Hyperion.

Yeah.. Bro Ricky for posting pics in this forum, theres size limitation i think. Last time i also failed to upload those FS pics close to 2mb size.
For pics abt 1mb+ still ok. Another thing need to consider is the time out for replying/post comments. If takes long time 2 write postings, pls save the text first just in case the page time out when submit.

Cyberion head size seems bigger nowdays... not sure its my eyesight play trick on me. tongue.gif
Both Cyberion and Galaxion still not in fighting mood.. seems abit kecut even when seeing a BU. The Bu stay inside nest whereas these 2 stay under the leaves.. laugh.gif

Test fight them with spar & Hyperion also just short arm pushing and ran.
Quite similiar sympton bfr becomes fierce like other FS previously.
Hopefully their fighting will and confidence will get better after separated from the female FS. icon_rolleyes.gif


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Kuantan a good fighter.. gave Cyberion good fight.
Hope after some rest can recover his fighting confidence and will to win.

BaitRunner Vs Trivex
Another exciting long fight. Strong fighting will and determination to win! Looks like partial chop FS..amazing strength and endurance!

Some normal FS after some fierce fights/nest fight will tend to become partial chop - bite more at early fight stage.
After rest some time, will back to normal fight stance, pushing and grab chop.
But some their mind already set to fight fierce and continue to fight aggresively.

One of the recent FS fight that i find very exciting is Larcius vs Red.
Can see surprise strong push attack at early fight follow by alot fast arm pushing, arm lock and close chop attack.
Leg bitting, arm bitting, counter attack from both fs and even flip upside down.
Both FS display aggresive fighting behaviour and strong will to win. Like a championship match! thumbup.gif




QUOTE(Spideric @ Jan 3 2012, 01:26 PM)
Hi John,

Nowasday I seldom spar my own top 5 Fs with each others. I found sometimes let them over fought will weaken their fighting level especially those longer fights & some might get injured fr furious fight. For example my Kuantan dint lost in battle fr previous fight but still lost his form in lastest tournament with a light push. I'm not saying bro Randy's Solomon Kane not stronger enuf to win mine,but based on my experience Kuantan shud b able to take at least slightly longer/closer push then only he retreat. suspect he got injured fr previous fight with bro Krauser's king chopster that's y he still feeling pain in somewhere I guess.
What I'm doing now to rank my newly caught test with last king,if able to get passing it then straight away test with 4/5 king. If still win means the rest will rely on other fellow bro's Fs to identify which king of mine shud it be. Bro viper diff case bcos nobody wanted to spar his giants..ha ha..

Btw,here's a long kept video I fight my own Fs,it's was BaitRunner v Trivex. Some of bros here may had  watch the part 1 now I'm combining unseen part 2 together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh7XulJEIo...be_gdata_player
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post Jan 4 2012, 10:59 AM

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Borneo jumping spider.



Look like Thiania subspecies also... stripes color remind me of Genki FS caught from Bkt Tinggi.

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http://greenborneo.net/Spider/IndexSalticidae.htm

Cute spider with thick arms.
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Nice hunting pics posted by Bro Ricky.. rclxms.gif

LOL pic really shows its long arm length

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LOL size should be close to 7.5mm. Hyperion size also abt 7.5
LOL cant be one size smaller than Hyperion. Maybe 1mm+/- laugh.gif
I feel Hyperion head slightly bigger, other like arms length or abdomen abt same.

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Hypertune abt to 7mm.

From the video LOL vs Hypertune. Its very obvious LOL size is much bigger than Hypertune.


Hyperion vs Hypertune


See both LOL and Hyperion size compare to Hypertune... both oso bigger than Hypertune.
Size is very close between Hyperion and LOL.

Yeah.. the 2 cute jumper have thick arms same like the one i saw before in chinese newspaper write up abt the King Thiania fs.
Its arm in fold position but can see its thickness difference compare to normal thiania fs arm.

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Added on January 5, 2012, 10:57 amYeah, i also feel Hyperion not in his form. It didnt charge forward but just stay same place waiting for LOL to move in closer.
LOL seems more eager to fight. Normally larger size fs more daring to charge forward and stay close to initiate fight because more confident to win.

I suspect something to do with too much Tong buing... tongue.gif
Hyperion have 3 females virgin thin partners and all pregnant. I hope more large genes can pass on in the future so keep putting new females fs in its case.
Same goes to Galaxion, when caught earlier... its shows eagerness charge to fight even when get push away by spar FS will still charge to fight back... after put female FS in for few days/weeks... its fighting will and confident level drops low.

Cyberion was caught last so only have few days with female FS before fought with Kuantan.

Another possibility i feel is Hyperion ate a medium size house fly in the morning abt 10am... stomach still full and sleepy. tongue.gif .
Didnt expect the fight reshedule earlier to afternoon instead of 9pm++.
Maybe just like human after a heavy lunch.. will feel sleepy and lazy 2 work. tongue.gif

Anyway, i feel LOL is a good large size confident FS with good aggressive fighting skill. Can see it initiate close chop bite attack 1st and continue to fought back fiercely with stronger push and bites another 2 times even when Hyperion tries to pin it down. LOL also show its wide long arm and sharp teeth rclxms.gif
Hyperion hind leg injured when get pushed back hard and the strong 3X bites attack from LOL makes him call it a day off and retreat.

Maybe if have chance can have rematch. icon_rolleyes.gif
Currently dont have other good challenger coz Jason king already ran away.
I dont plan 2 keep long... want to give more chance to mate and reproduce more large size fs in the future. icon_rolleyes.gif

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So many new exciting FS fights thumbup.gif

Kuantan fighting arm stance chg and fight like partial chop ady.
Smoking Ace vs Guiness Stout can see alot chops
Heartthrob vs Guiness Stout abt 20sec fightings stance taunting.. good fight.
Heartthrob vs Cyclone : Hearthrob leg get bite earlier but managed to counter bite Cyclone back and won. Exciting and good match.
Crixus vs Kuantan : Very strong fighting will and high stamina.. can fight very long like Olympic fight lvl. icon_idea.gif

My FS updates.

Galaxion seems turn partial chop.. still have fighting arm stance but when close to its opponent.. will try to grab bite 1st instead of using strength to do arm pushing.
One of my Spar FS leg get bitten off.. sweat.gif
Too bad have released Hypertune last week bfr new yr..seems no mood 2 fight alwys maybe also turn partial chop.

Some FS that turn partial chop tends to have more stronger fighting will and high stamina to last long in fights. Eg. like my previous FS Razer and Blackie.
Their mindset seems reprogrammed to fight aggressively and die die must win...

I think if Galaxion fight Kuantan, Crixus or other strong FS which have strong fighting will... maybe have high chance to get long fights.

Galaxion turn partial chop?


Cyberion


Hyperion


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The fight between Power Chop and Red Devil very exciting. I was wondering whether there will be any T-bha chopster fight with Red Devil last time.
Thanks to Bro Rudy and Vincent to share this exciting fierce fight T-Bha chopster vs T-Sub.

2 Different Thiania species fight about same size.
The fight clearly shows that an aggresive fierce TBha chopster can win and injured its opponent T-sub eventhough have longer arms and bigger head.



Fast direct strong front chop, follow by grap throw till upside down, arm and leg bitting while both flip upside down trying to break free.
Red Devil managed to break free 2X but seems injured on its arms and leg. Power chop either 2 exhausted and taking some break or maybe stunned from Red Devil counter bites. Very exciting match. T-bha chopster aggressive fighting skill with strong chops attack is a deadly combos.
Hope Red Devil can recover soon. Maybe will become partial chop/chopster in the future hmm.gif

Another fight that caught my attention is between Killer vs Prada, i also have the same thoughts with Bro ricky.
Some T-bha will tend to avoid fighting with chopster when notice the fight stance or fight behaviour is different.
Maybe they know its not a fight to test strength but more towards killing motives or some unknown risk reason.
Some male FS after mating will also ran away from the female partners maybe they notice the mood changes or risk if stay close.
Female FS that pregnant have very big appetite... maybe will eat the male FS if less food...
Or maybe the male FS wants to avoid stressing the females FS tongue.gif

Same thing happen oso recently when i try to fight Cyberion vs Galaxion few days back bfr. I noticed when Cyberion moves close with fighting arm stance towards Galaxion, just bfr doing arm pushing, Cyberion immediately back off and ran away. Maybe Cyberion also know that Galaxion already chg to partial chop earlier eventhough theres no bite symptom yet from Galaxion.

So next time when any FS dont want to fight or retreat after short pushing or bites.. can tell the opponent... Hey.. ur fs goin 2 become partial chopter/chopster soon..my FS know it so duwan fight lar. Joke only tongue.gif

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Nice new FS farm new pics and videos. rclxms.gif

King Kong fighting confident increase and his legs seems getting stronger.
Can hold well and win all his fights! King Kong look so much bigger size and longer arms than Changi & Ecko.







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Hi Bro Ricky.

LOL and Kuantan becoming chop might be due to some fs they fought previously fought with partial chop/chopster bfr.
Not sure Hyperion and Cyberion will turn chop later.. so far still normal. Fought with Hypertune, Galaxion and your FS bfr.

GEnting Longarm previously fought with a chopster bfr and takes abt 3 weeks to becomes fierce partial chopster.
Still have arm fighting stance but when close will grab and bite hard.

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Galaxion seems also having the same fight pattern currently.

For me.. partial chop still have fighting stance , sometimes with/wo arm pushing but will tend to grab n bites more.
Full chop.. no more fighting stance.. just move in close, jump and bites.

Another Thiania sub species. Thiania SP. Length 10mm drool.gif

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I think Thiania SP = Thiania Subproessa

Found this article studies/research on T-bha from Singapore. rclxms.gif
Not sure posted this bfr last time.. nice to read. Dont have much info on chopster.. except maybe under grapple fight lvl 4.

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/50/50rbz143-151.pdf

Another nice exotic spiders.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orionmystery/...in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orionmystery/...in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orionmystery/...in/photostream/

T-sub from Japan
https://sites.google.com/site/tacymi2416salticid/home

https://sites.google.com/site/tacymi2416sal...riga/thiania-sp

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Depends on individual... for me its consider as T-sub species the smaller type.
Some call it as Thiania Red Subopressa, etcs..
Even T-bha male also have very small and short arm type. Caught some bfr.

Scroll down to the bottom in the link to see...Thiania subopressa.(red)
http://greenborneo.net/Spider/Salticidae_Euophryinae.htm

Thiania compilation caught by FS kakis : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+920

Borneo Thiania , Bukit Tinggi Thiania or Cameron Thiania
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+920

The yellow black stripes spider looks like Thianitara caught by Bro Mindstorm bfr.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1414966/+1000

This link have alot Thianias species.
http://www.jumping-spiders.com/php/p.php?letter=Thiania

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Added on January 9, 2012, 11:34 amTo viper88.  Pardon me for my limited knowledge. Is Red Devil a T-sub species?
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Last month i remember u fought a chopster with Bro Jason's King... and fought back with LOL.
Or maybe from other spar FS indirect transmitted and only show the symptoms after sometime.
Some FS takes few days/weeks to turn partial/full chop some.... very fast get converted.
Some FS also chop/bite often if fight inside leaves often. If leaves area is small and exit/entrance block, ..normally one of the weaker FS will get bitten badly or get killed.

My 1st & 2nd king dont have much fights recently coz most of the spar ran away bfr any arm pushing..
Noticed their movement not as active like last time when newly caught.. about 1 mth 2 weeks already.

The Genting FS size abt 7+mm.. Good size.

Interesting new hunting pics... the D24 durian looks gooding.
The black spitting cobra looks dangerous but in Bro Seng's hand its look like a harmless toy snake laugh.gif .

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Yes, one that i still remember well was Kaizer.

Kaizer bloody chop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzFr6tcpGMw

Kaizer vs Nexus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7q1887DRgU

After lost to Nexus.. Kaizer fought normal fighting stance and arm push.

Kaizer vs Spitfire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06if7H8euik


Somehow i feel... some partial chop/chopster also learn some new fighting pattern based on their previous fight experiences.

Genting Longarm lost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUqePt7mnFM

If see Genting Longarm bloody fight later.. the fight pattern looks same from its previous lost fight.

QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 11 2012, 08:29 AM)
Are there instances whereby a chopster become normal fighter?
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Wow.. more good size FS in your hand. Very good catch. rclxms.gif
Thanks for uploading the new FS pics..
Looks large and intimidating for other smaller size FS. drool.gif

I also think FS that eat alot and drink more water will be bigger size in the wild.
But in captivity.. inside fs case, most of the time the FS dont drink much thus the size seems shrink...

Some fs that turn partial chop/chopster or not well.. eventho have big appetite also size shrink...
Maybe more water required to maintain FS good size.

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Yes, when i caught, Kaizer already fought as chopster style, no arm stance.. just raise both arms high, charge and grab bite.
After the match with Spitfire, I also try fight Kaizer with other partial chopster and normal fs.. but Kaizer lost easily and ran.
I released Kaizer after its fight performance drop.

QUOTE(utility47 @ Jan 11 2012, 06:58 PM)
Interesting, viper88. Kaizer started as a chopster? After the match with Spitfire, any other match between Kaizer and another chopster. Indeed, Kaizer recovered from Nexus's fight too.
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