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Cheesenium
post May 13 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:54 PM)
if hes not suitable in plat, hed be kicked just like us ^^;
and if ur not a fan of smurfing, sc2's system is pretty 'perfect'.

for terran, other than MMM, theres always mechanized builds, air builds or mixups to play with. the recent terran replays showed quite a lot of insights and how-to's along with its inherited flaws etc etc. as for helions, unless ur micro is DAMN GOOD, and can get em in reaper speeds etc and you're NOT facing terran, forget it. the only use i can think of for them is worker rape via aoe + range/fast speeds. OR, if enemy is running melees like zealot/zerglings (also, not terran rofl)

for VODs, i know theres a lot of tarson playing terran, and some TLO i guess... day9 did a good cover on terran doing non MMM builds with a terran vs terran mirror and both going different builds (do watch that if you hate MMM like i do lol)

also, you in copper isnt entirely due to random/dc. lets say ur in ur perfect line condition/playing only protoss, the max youd be would be around silver (i would assume/estimate) even if ur placed in plat by winning all 5. do note, even if you win ALL 5 games it may not place you in plat as the placement also uses other factors to determine ur placing. i know this for a fact that ive played with other LYN player in 2v2 and we won all 5 games and still place into gold.

put it this way: good players, know the game inside out, and while he may not play random, he would know/understand all races like the back of his hand. (for a good reason to) You atm are weak on terran/zerg as you pointed out yourself. lets say you play protoss and you face say, terran/zerg, would you have ALL possible scenarios going through your head during game loading/as game progress and have a solution/answer for all of them when your game start/progress through?

like i said, if you're really good, you'd be moved to avoid noob stomping as the system is meant sole for one thing: putting people where they belong and everyone can have a great time (and challenge, like you wanted)


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:57 pm

and thats the thing that are common in blizz, even the slightest tweak of -1 armor from roach, can go a looooooong way in promoting a balanced and competitive game play and lol esport
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The matchmaking is still quite bugged so far, from what i heard.

Im not saying i hate MMM build, but i just want more builds before i play more Terran, in case MMM doesnt work suddenly and im left there not knowing what else that could be effective to do. Mixing a bit Mech seem to be the way to go so far.

Im not saying im good,as i have pretty much stopped RTS after RA3, as RTS games are getting a bit too stale for me. Except DoW2 after 1.5. So,there are quite a fair bit to catch up for me as im quite rusty now.

I know why im in Copper, mostly because i dont have a clue at all with Zerg and Terran during placement. Also, probably the skill factor as you have point out,as i heard Battlenet also takes account of things like how much floating minerals you have or your average APM before putting you in a league. I expected to be on Silver, max,as Gold players are much better than me in every way. I have played with Gold players and i know im not up to their standard,and probably rage if the matchmaking put me in Gold after reset. lol.

Could you give the link for Day[9]'s VoD? SC Legacy's one kinda suxs,as they arent technical enough nor as entertaining as Husky or HD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 5:08 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2010, 04:58 PM)
phoenixes is very easy...
go watch day[9]'s analysis of phoenix...
tested it and its not hard ^.^
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I thought going full Phoenix is quite a risky BO,as they arent good if you dont have enough of them.

It's entertaining to watch,by the way.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: May 13 2010, 05:08 PM
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post May 13 2010, 05:17 PM

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Anyone know what are we getting inside the SC 2 Box Set?
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post May 13 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 05:17 PM)
Anyone know what are we getting inside the SC 2 Box Set?
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A disc, a black and white manual and a box.

Standard stuff.

CE,probably cost a bomb.
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post May 13 2010, 05:22 PM

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rawr i want to be in cooper league!
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post May 13 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 05:07 PM)
The matchmaking is still quite bugged so far, from what i heard.

Im not saying i hate MMM build, but i just want more builds before i play more Terran, in case MMM doesnt work suddenly and im left there not knowing what else that could be effective to do. Mixing a bit Mech seem to be the way to go so far.

Im not saying im good,as i have pretty much stopped RTS after RA3, as RTS games are getting a bit too stale for me. Except DoW2 after 1.5. So,there are quite a fair bit to catch up for me as im quite rusty now.

I know why im in Copper, mostly because i dont have a clue at all with Zerg and Terran during placement. Also, probably the skill factor as you have point out,as i heard Battlenet also takes account of things like how much floating minerals you have or your average APM before putting you in a league. I expected to be on Silver, max,as Gold players are much better than me in every way. I have played with Gold players and i know im not up to their standard,and probably rage if the matchmaking put me in Gold after reset. lol.

Could you give the link for Day[9]'s VoD? SC Legacy's one kinda suxs,as they arent technical enough nor as entertaining as Husky or HD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 5:08 pm

I thought going full Phoenix is quite a risky BO,as they arent good if you dont have enough of them.

It's entertaining to watch,by the way.
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i didnt u didnt watch the real NonY's phoenix play...
he dun go full phoenix...
go to day[9]'s team liquid thread and watch the vids (i linked them few pages back)...
his phoenix play have a sizable ground army as well...
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post May 13 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 05:21 PM)
A disc, a black and white manual and a box.

Standard stuff.

CE,probably cost a bomb.
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RM250 for those stuff are pretty expensive then..

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post May 13 2010, 05:39 PM

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The HD invitational match against WhiteRA vs TLO .. and guess who won and goes to the finals

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post May 13 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
The HD invitational match against WhiteRA vs TLO .. and guess who won and goes to the finals

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Damnit.
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post May 13 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
The HD invitational match against WhiteRA vs TLO .. and guess who won and goes to the finals

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not surprised ^.^
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post May 13 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 05:07 PM)
The matchmaking is still quite bugged so far, from what i heard.

Im not saying i hate MMM build, but i just want more builds before i play more Terran, in case MMM doesnt work suddenly and im left there not knowing what else that could be effective to do. Mixing a bit Mech seem to be the way to go so far.

Im not saying im good,as i have pretty much stopped RTS after RA3, as RTS games are getting a bit too stale for me. Except DoW2 after 1.5. So,there are quite a fair bit to catch up for me as im quite rusty now.

I know why im in Copper, mostly because i dont have a clue at all with Zerg and Terran during placement. Also, probably the skill factor as you have point out,as i heard Battlenet also takes account of things like how much floating minerals you have or your average APM before putting you in a league. I expected to be on Silver, max,as Gold players are much better than me in every way. I have played with Gold players and i know im not up to their standard,and probably rage if the matchmaking put me in Gold after reset. lol.

Could you give the link for Day[9]'s VoD? SC Legacy's one kinda suxs,as they arent technical enough nor as entertaining as Husky or HD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 5:08 pm

I thought going full Phoenix is quite a risky BO,as they arent good if you dont have enough of them.

It's entertaining to watch,by the way.
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i hate it cuz its like the most solid thing a terran player can do especially if hes aggressive/rushes/hate long games lol

and yes, the placement does indeed take other things into factor besides the 5 wins. and i think its good blizzard isnt revealing the entirety of how the system work so people wont abuse it (eg: smurfing)

oh for that TVT match:
http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom/vide...e4-646a79519c16
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Thats TvT match is date April 12, 2010 tongue.gif
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post May 13 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 06:07 PM)
Thats TvT match is date April 12, 2010 tongue.gif
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i didnt say its recent, just mentioned its a non MMM terran match that uses diff strat. 1 side mechanized mainly thor, 1 side air banshee viking
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post May 13 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 06:01 PM)
i hate it cuz its like the most solid thing a terran player can do especially if hes aggressive/rushes/hate long games lol

and yes, the placement does indeed take other things into factor besides the 5 wins. and i think its good blizzard isnt revealing the entirety of how the system work so people wont abuse it (eg: smurfing)

oh for that TVT match:
http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom/vide...e4-646a79519c16
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Well,i know how to smurf now. It isnt hard.

Thanks a lot,by the way.
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post May 13 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 06:34 PM)
Well,i know how to smurf now. It isnt hard.

Thanks a lot,by the way.
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np, and oh god livestream sucks so bad, thank god day9 is moving to bliptv or some shit. even a 40-60mbit corporate line also can lag, imagine the shittyness
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post May 13 2010, 07:22 PM

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It's not about how much bandwidth you have. Sometimes these sites are slow because of international internet highway problem so 4M and 40M wont make a difference
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post May 13 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(cynachen @ May 12 2010, 11:34 PM)
I also have this problem. The client is in Korean =.=. Anyway, to solve it, you have to do the following things:

1) Download the US client. You can get it by google.

2) Download the asia region for base.sc2data @ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=118158

3) Install US client.

4) Place downloaded base.sc2data to 'StarCraft II Beta\Mods\Core.SC2Mod\' folder.

5) Done. Start playing. biggrin.gif

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It works like a charm dude.. thanks..
Only problem is now getting pwned by Korean dudes. notworthy.gif
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post May 13 2010, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(shumaky @ May 13 2010, 08:02 PM)
It works like a charm dude.. thanks..
Only problem is now getting pwned by Korean dudes. notworthy.gif
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Show the Koreans u can pwned em back biggrin.gif
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Hey I have an Asia account as well. Gonna try it
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post May 13 2010, 09:31 PM

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They are doing a full database reset soon again so yea goodbye to everything & welcome back to doing your placement matches again .. lol
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
The HD invitational match against WhiteRA vs TLO .. and guess who won and goes to the finals

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Thanks to the sucky random probability of 1/27 TLO getting Protoss 3 times in a row. biggrin.gif

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