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Deimos Tel`Arin
post May 13 2010, 04:10 PM

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Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!


also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.


no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
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post May 13 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:07 PM)
Up to you to say what you want.

I know how well i play,and Cooper shouldnt be the place for me.

Hopefully i'll get promoted soon,as i know my BOs pretty well and able to play decently now. If not, just keep trying Random,so that i get to play Random full time.

I really need to learn how to do a good MMM.
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Learning to do a good MMM ... its easy lo. Just watch for replays on terran. U shud be alright.


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:11 pm
QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!
also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.
no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
*
Where got hero units lor ... this is not Warcraft 3 .. hehe. Dota sucks, only dotard ppl plays Dota.

This post has been edited by XenoFr3ak: May 13 2010, 04:11 PM
Quazacolt
post May 13 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!
also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.
no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
*
if you keep winning, you'd be placed higher in league so you dont bully noobs

and no dota in sc2? GOOD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:07 PM)
Up to you to say what you want.

I know how well i play,and Cooper shouldnt be the place for me.

Hopefully i'll get promoted soon,as i know my BOs pretty well and able to play decently now. If not, just keep trying Random,so that i get to play Random full time.

I really need to learn how to do a good MMM.
*
you can check the replay i posted, theres FOUR people doing MMM, although 2 of em are kinda bad (well they lost so duh lol)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 13 2010, 04:13 PM
C_Sagi
post May 13 2010, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(erni3 @ May 12 2010, 03:14 PM)
Can anyone upload all the maps into sendspace or rapidshare or megaupload so i don't have to wait like 1hour for a 2mb map. Thx  cool2.gif
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Wait... every time u guys say lag i thought its the same for me but d/l map takes 1hr ? What map are u guys d/ling ? It always takes me 2-4 mins for a map. This is weird. hmm.gif
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post May 13 2010, 04:17 PM

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terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
XenoFr3ak
post May 13 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ May 13 2010, 04:14 PM)
Wait... every time u guys say lag i thought its the same for me but d/l map takes 1hr ? What map are u guys d/ling ? It always takes me 2-4 mins for a map. This is weird. hmm.gif
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Better d/l every map lor ... players will get annoyed if waiting for u to d/l the maps whn they wanna play with u.
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post May 13 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
Better d/l every map lor ... players will get annoyed if waiting for u to d/l the maps whn they wanna play with u.
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Good point. Gonna do it tonight. I havent d/l all cause rarely play it.
XenoFr3ak
post May 13 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm (maybe)

zerg = roach/hydra (wrong)

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker (wrong)

boring (wrong)
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evofantasy
post May 13 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
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NonY's phoenixes say hi!
Cheesenium
post May 13 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 13 2010, 04:09 PM)
play more~ win more~ get back your rank rclxms.gif
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Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.

QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!
also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.
no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
*
Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:12 PM)
you can check the replay i posted, theres FOUR people doing MMM, although 2 of em are kinda bad (well they lost so duh lol)
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After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
XenoFr3ak
post May 13 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:27 PM)
Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.
Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.
After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
*
The other terran build order will be ThorShip build ... but very seldom see that edy biggrin.gif
Cheesenium
post May 13 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
*
Not really, some really creative BOs has come out recently.

Like the silly Queen Rush.

QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2010, 04:23 PM)
NonY's phoenixes say hi!
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That one,too hard to do. laugh.gif


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:36 pm
QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 04:30 PM)
The other terran build order will be ThorShip build ... but very seldom see that edy biggrin.gif
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I thought it's more like a Reaver drop or something?

Maybe could try but it's obvious like crazy as everyone can see that giant box under it.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: May 13 2010, 04:36 PM
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post May 13 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
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thats for people in the copper/bronze/silver leagues. yes, static boring strats. dont get you far in sc2 TBH

im in silver/gold (2v2 plat with aftersteps, though id say we're gonna drop really soon tongue.gif)
and i can assure you, my BO/units etc changes games after games.
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post May 13 2010, 04:41 PM

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Okey~ quick question.
How much would be the SC2 Box Set price?
estimate?
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post May 13 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:41 PM)
thats for people in the copper/bronze/silver leagues. yes, static boring strats. dont get you far in sc2 TBH

im in silver/gold (2v2 plat with aftersteps, though id say we're gonna drop really soon tongue.gif)
and i can assure you, my BO/units etc changes games after games.
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I think he still have the impression of the early Beta where the balance was quite bad that made Roach,MMM and Stalker/Sentry blob are probably the only variable BO.

Balance has improved a lot,IMO,to promote different BOs each game.

Been changing mine for each game now,as certain things like going robo or Stargate are quite situational.

QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 04:41 PM)
Okey~ quick question.
How much would be the SC2 Box Set price?
estimate?
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RM248. Quite steep for a game.

Get it from Amazon if you want the Beta Key now.

Havent got my extra one yet. :/
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post May 13 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:46 PM)
I think he still have the impression of the early Beta where the balance was quite bad that made Roach,MMM and Stalker/Sentry blob are probably the only variable BO.

Balance has improved a lot,IMO,to promote different BOs each game.

Been changing mine for each game now,as certain things like going robo or Stargate are quite situational.
RM248. Quite steep for a game.

Get it from Amazon if you want the Beta Key now.

Havent got my extra one yet. :/
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should i buy the SC 2 DVD Box set now? or wait until it release?
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post May 13 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 04:51 PM)
should i buy the SC 2 DVD Box set now? or wait until it release?
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If you want, get it from Amazon then,so that you get the Beta Key now.

Or,if you dont mind waiting, you can just wait for the boxset.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:51 PM)
If you want, get it from Amazon then,so that you get the Beta Key now.

Or,if you dont mind waiting, you can just wait for the boxset.
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biggrin.gif well, i'm getting the box set.
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post May 13 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:27 PM)
Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.
Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.
After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
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if hes not suitable in plat, hed be kicked just like us ^^;
and if ur not a fan of smurfing, sc2's system is pretty 'perfect'.

for terran, other than MMM, theres always mechanized builds, air builds or mixups to play with. the recent terran replays showed quite a lot of insights and how-to's along with its inherited flaws etc etc. as for helions, unless ur micro is DAMN GOOD, and can get em in reaper speeds etc and you're NOT facing terran, forget it. the only use i can think of for them is worker rape via aoe + range/fast speeds. OR, if enemy is running melees like zealot/zerglings (also, not terran rofl)

for VODs, i know theres a lot of tarson playing terran, and some TLO i guess... day9 did a good cover on terran doing non MMM builds with a terran vs terran mirror and both going different builds (do watch that if you hate MMM like i do lol)

also, you in copper isnt entirely due to random/dc. lets say ur in ur perfect line condition/playing only protoss, the max youd be would be around silver (i would assume/estimate) even if ur placed in plat by winning all 5. do note, even if you win ALL 5 games it may not place you in plat as the placement also uses other factors to determine ur placing. i know this for a fact that ive played with other LYN player in 2v2 and we won all 5 games and still place into gold.

put it this way: good players, know the game inside out, and while he may not play random, he would know/understand all races like the back of his hand. (for a good reason to) You atm are weak on terran/zerg as you pointed out yourself. lets say you play protoss and you face say, terran/zerg, would you have ALL possible scenarios going through your head during game loading/as game progress and have a solution/answer for all of them when your game start/progress through?

like i said, if you're really good, you'd be moved to avoid noob stomping as the system is meant sole for one thing: putting people where they belong and everyone can have a great time (and challenge, like you wanted)


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:57 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:46 PM)
I think he still have the impression of the early Beta where the balance was quite bad that made Roach,MMM and Stalker/Sentry blob are probably the only variable BO.

Balance has improved a lot,IMO,to promote different BOs each game.

Been changing mine for each game now,as certain things like going robo or Stargate are quite situational.
RM248. Quite steep for a game.

Get it from Amazon if you want the Beta Key now.

Havent got my extra one yet. :/
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and thats the thing that are common in blizz, even the slightest tweak of -1 armor from roach, can go a looooooong way in promoting a balanced and competitive game play and lol esport

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 13 2010, 04:57 PM
evofantasy
post May 13 2010, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:27 PM)
Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.
Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.
After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
*
cheese...
for terran i suggest lucifron...


Added on May 13, 2010, 5:00 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:32 PM)
Not really, some really creative BOs has come out recently.

Like the silly Queen Rush.
That one,too hard to do. laugh.gif


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:36 pm

I thought it's more like a Reaver drop or something?

Maybe could try but it's obvious like crazy as everyone can see that giant box under it.
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phoenixes is very easy...
go watch day[9]'s analysis of phoenix...
tested it and its not hard ^.^

This post has been edited by evofantasy: May 13 2010, 05:00 PM

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