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RTS Starcraft 2 V3.0, Anticipated Launching Date July 27, 2010

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post May 11 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 11 2010, 05:22 PM)
usually i'll 14pool 15hatch with 2 queens up...
even for 2v2 i usually go that for extra larvae...
but kinda makes u vulnerable early game going  2 hatch...
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well if you can overcome that vulnerability, then it'd help in the long run not so much the larvae but the extra income lol

and once 2x queens spam spawning extra larvae kicks in, gg lol
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post May 11 2010, 10:25 PM

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ok as promised:

http://www.quazacolt.com/starcraft2/replays/mmmx4.sc2replay
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post May 12 2010, 10:07 AM

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oi talexeh: http://www.quazacolt.com/starcraft2/replays/mmmx4.sc2replay
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post May 13 2010, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 13 2010, 12:55 AM)
Oi Quaza. Thanks. biggrin.gif

Ehh, is it just this replay or the icon for Concussive Shell in replay's Production tab has been buggy all these while?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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yeah i noticed this on a previous shoutcasted replay (day9 i believe)... and guess you noticed it now too. been bugged for a while and still not fixed i guess rofl


Added on May 13, 2010, 10:04 amoh ya how you like that MM(only me having the 3rd M XD) clusterf***? XD

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post May 13 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 13 2010, 11:08 AM)
It's kinda short; just the first waves then GG. In fact, you & aftersteps have bigger army counts compared to the opponents, so the outcome is pretty predictable. biggrin.gif
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aftersteps got a bigger army while i had medivacs, they dont have em and top player focused marauders mainly while bottom more on marines, and... they got splitted up. lol

try to play that shit on slow mo.... f***ing gorey and marines/rauders screaming LOL
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post May 13 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 13 2010, 03:12 PM)
Just FYI.
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MY BANSHEE ICON LOL


Added on May 13, 2010, 3:18 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 03:16 PM)
Thats good,i can get rid of my failure Cooper league then.
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umm, i dont think it'd quite help, honestly lol.

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post May 13 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 03:32 PM)
Right, i got in Cooper because i lost my placement matches due to disconnect and a lot of bad play with Zerg.
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if ur good, you'll be moved

if ur bad, even if you win all 5-0 in placement, and got in plat, you'd be kicked off anyways, like myself or the other LYN players


Added on May 13, 2010, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2010, 03:38 PM)
ratings doesnt matter in beta...
i'm using beta to test builds/ fool around with my frens (me and my frens sharing 3 accounts thanks to the 2RaF keys lol)
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i want my boobies

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post May 13 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(DeanKueh @ May 13 2010, 03:54 PM)
sore loser biggrin.gif
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post May 13 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!
also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.
no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
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if you keep winning, you'd be placed higher in league so you dont bully noobs

and no dota in sc2? GOOD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:07 PM)
Up to you to say what you want.

I know how well i play,and Cooper shouldnt be the place for me.

Hopefully i'll get promoted soon,as i know my BOs pretty well and able to play decently now. If not, just keep trying Random,so that i get to play Random full time.

I really need to learn how to do a good MMM.
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you can check the replay i posted, theres FOUR people doing MMM, although 2 of em are kinda bad (well they lost so duh lol)

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post May 13 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
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thats for people in the copper/bronze/silver leagues. yes, static boring strats. dont get you far in sc2 TBH

im in silver/gold (2v2 plat with aftersteps, though id say we're gonna drop really soon tongue.gif)
and i can assure you, my BO/units etc changes games after games.
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post May 13 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:27 PM)
Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.
Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.
After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
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if hes not suitable in plat, hed be kicked just like us ^^;
and if ur not a fan of smurfing, sc2's system is pretty 'perfect'.

for terran, other than MMM, theres always mechanized builds, air builds or mixups to play with. the recent terran replays showed quite a lot of insights and how-to's along with its inherited flaws etc etc. as for helions, unless ur micro is DAMN GOOD, and can get em in reaper speeds etc and you're NOT facing terran, forget it. the only use i can think of for them is worker rape via aoe + range/fast speeds. OR, if enemy is running melees like zealot/zerglings (also, not terran rofl)

for VODs, i know theres a lot of tarson playing terran, and some TLO i guess... day9 did a good cover on terran doing non MMM builds with a terran vs terran mirror and both going different builds (do watch that if you hate MMM like i do lol)

also, you in copper isnt entirely due to random/dc. lets say ur in ur perfect line condition/playing only protoss, the max youd be would be around silver (i would assume/estimate) even if ur placed in plat by winning all 5. do note, even if you win ALL 5 games it may not place you in plat as the placement also uses other factors to determine ur placing. i know this for a fact that ive played with other LYN player in 2v2 and we won all 5 games and still place into gold.

put it this way: good players, know the game inside out, and while he may not play random, he would know/understand all races like the back of his hand. (for a good reason to) You atm are weak on terran/zerg as you pointed out yourself. lets say you play protoss and you face say, terran/zerg, would you have ALL possible scenarios going through your head during game loading/as game progress and have a solution/answer for all of them when your game start/progress through?

like i said, if you're really good, you'd be moved to avoid noob stomping as the system is meant sole for one thing: putting people where they belong and everyone can have a great time (and challenge, like you wanted)


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:57 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 04:46 PM)
I think he still have the impression of the early Beta where the balance was quite bad that made Roach,MMM and Stalker/Sentry blob are probably the only variable BO.

Balance has improved a lot,IMO,to promote different BOs each game.

Been changing mine for each game now,as certain things like going robo or Stargate are quite situational.
RM248. Quite steep for a game.

Get it from Amazon if you want the Beta Key now.

Havent got my extra one yet. :/
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and thats the thing that are common in blizz, even the slightest tweak of -1 armor from roach, can go a looooooong way in promoting a balanced and competitive game play and lol esport

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post May 13 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 05:07 PM)
The matchmaking is still quite bugged so far, from what i heard.

Im not saying i hate MMM build, but i just want more builds before i play more Terran, in case MMM doesnt work suddenly and im left there not knowing what else that could be effective to do. Mixing a bit Mech seem to be the way to go so far.

Im not saying im good,as i have pretty much stopped RTS after RA3, as RTS games are getting a bit too stale for me. Except DoW2 after 1.5. So,there are quite a fair bit to catch up for me as im quite rusty now.

I know why im in Copper, mostly because i dont have a clue at all with Zerg and Terran during placement. Also, probably the skill factor as you have point out,as i heard Battlenet also takes account of things like how much floating minerals you have or your average APM before putting you in a league. I expected to be on Silver, max,as Gold players are much better than me in every way. I have played with Gold players and i know im not up to their standard,and probably rage if the matchmaking put me in Gold after reset. lol.

Could you give the link for Day[9]'s VoD? SC Legacy's one kinda suxs,as they arent technical enough nor as entertaining as Husky or HD.


Added on May 13, 2010, 5:08 pm

I thought going full Phoenix is quite a risky BO,as they arent good if you dont have enough of them.

It's entertaining to watch,by the way.
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i hate it cuz its like the most solid thing a terran player can do especially if hes aggressive/rushes/hate long games lol

and yes, the placement does indeed take other things into factor besides the 5 wins. and i think its good blizzard isnt revealing the entirety of how the system work so people wont abuse it (eg: smurfing)

oh for that TVT match:
http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom/vide...e4-646a79519c16
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post May 13 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 06:07 PM)
Thats TvT match is date April 12, 2010 tongue.gif
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i didnt say its recent, just mentioned its a non MMM terran match that uses diff strat. 1 side mechanized mainly thor, 1 side air banshee viking
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post May 13 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 06:34 PM)
Well,i know how to smurf now. It isnt hard.

Thanks a lot,by the way.
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np, and oh god livestream sucks so bad, thank god day9 is moving to bliptv or some shit. even a 40-60mbit corporate line also can lag, imagine the shittyness
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post May 13 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ May 13 2010, 07:22 PM)
It's not about how much bandwidth you have. Sometimes these sites are slow because of international internet highway problem so 4M and 40M wont make a difference
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guess you missed this:
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thank god day9 is moving to bliptv or some shit.



Added on May 13, 2010, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(talexeh @ May 13 2010, 09:36 PM)
Thanks to the sucky random probability of 1/27 TLO getting Protoss 3 times in a row. biggrin.gif
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1/33 no?

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post May 14 2010, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 13 2010, 11:11 PM)
No,

(1/3)x(1/3)x(1/3)=1/27
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i was gonna ask why the math formula, but since im bad at math and itd make me more confusing anyways, forget it lol


Added on May 14, 2010, 1:51 am
QUOTE(Moonflown @ May 13 2010, 11:22 PM)
It's true. Certain streaming server located in different location therefore have different latency. That is why all the shits you're indicating are not as shit as you think.
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sigh was it that hard to get? lol


Added on May 14, 2010, 2:10 am
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StarCraft II Beta -- Patch 12 (version 0.14.0.15343)
The latest patch notes can always be found on our StarCraft II Beta General Discussion forum.

Balance Changes


•PROTOSS

•Forge
•Build time increased from 35 to 45.
•Life and shield values decreased from 550/550 to 400/400.

•Mothership
•Vortex now removes Force Fields within its area of effect.


•TERRAN

•Thor
•Radius decreased from 1.375 to 0.8125.
•Model size reduced to match new radius.


•ZERG

•Roach
•Supply count increased from 1 to 2.


User Interface
•Several Hotkey changes have been made (German client only).


Bug Fixes
•Fixed a crash which sometimes occurred when quitting the program.


there ye go

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post May 14 2010, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(blinks @ May 14 2010, 09:46 AM)
anyone know how to pre-order SC 2 Collector's Edition ?

I'm in KL.
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can PO from sites like amazon, i did
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post May 14 2010, 11:09 AM

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patch done under 20mins before i left home for office lol

still couldnt play until i settle some stuffs ><
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post May 14 2010, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 14 2010, 12:07 PM)
actually its not that...
korean pros said TERRAN are the OP ones "unbeatable in the hand of sc1 korean pros"...

as for the roach changes, i'm happy wit it...
for someone that uses roaches in his zerg BOs, roach are really jz so effective to spam...
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read blizz dev interviews bout the balancing dillema

zerg in us = needs buff
zerg in kr = needs nerf

and im happy for zerg change cuz in an ideal world of having perfect resource/BO, having stalker vs marauder vs roaches, roaches would typically come out as the victor due cheap retarded massing and do take note of their dmg/hp/speed in comparison. true, if the stalker got blink as with rauders having concuss, roaches dont stand much chance, but whos to say the roach cant just steamroll your base? base cant blink or concuss em roach now can they? lol


Added on May 14, 2010, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 14 2010, 12:27 PM)
a question for you.
how do you know if you can play it?
we are using SEA version while you probably getting US version.
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1) theres no specific SEA version/localized server yet (at least according to current beta state) although it has been announced that there will be one for SEA
2) even if i get the US ver and seperated from SEA folks, it wont bother me, in fact, id rather play in US servers for the most part due to a larger map/custom game community and/or laddering opportunities

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post May 14 2010, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 14 2010, 12:40 PM)
what if blizzard decides to be mean and proceeds to prevent international access via ip address restriction?
ya gonna use a proxy then?
what if proxies dun work?
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1) they arent mean
2) i can vpn/proxies then
3) they will work.

ps: how long you think ive been playing their games and do you know, that i have ALL their collector's edition minus vanilla WoW?


Added on May 14, 2010, 2:34 pm
QUOTE(Jganne @ May 14 2010, 12:55 PM)
I know the chance. But .. adding a game to my Battle Net account. It requires a CD key == I don't have any Blizzard Games with me.
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then too bad. period.

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