Just bought Bil Jac for my pup. Not sure is it good for him though.

Is fish4dogs good? little reviews about this brand. Bought it yesterday and my dog loves it so much. Keep searching for it.

my toy poodle has skin problem from the day i brought him home...its been 3 months til now...i bought him korean brand neutreana(salmon&fruit anti sensitive skin formula),he likes it so much but not able to get bigger size cz only 2kg pack is available, the supply is not stable n always out of stock.so then i change to nutriedge salmon&rice, he dont like it at all,he only eat a little when he is starving, then i bought him natural balance lamb&rice,he seems dont really like it too, never finish the kibbles!!!!

now i am on RC junior due to limited brand i can get in melaka........i saw a lot bad review about this brand but my boy likes it......the price still expensive 3kg pack@RM80+

is this brand really not good?anywhere can get cheaper price?

This post has been edited by lv-nana: Jun 27 2011, 03:41 PM

If your dog has skin problem, try taking out lamb from its diet. My dog have sensitive stomach and skin problem too and it's now taking Royal Canine, vet prescription (blue label) for 4 years and this cost us RM2XX plus for the big pack. Not that bad coz the big pack last us for near to 6 months. We too have difficulty in identifying the best kibbles for him as there are too many in the market. You just need to check out the best one to suit your dog and stick to it.

Also, we minimise his intake on eukanuba biscuits - the one in boxes (yup, this gave him rashes too eventhough it is chicken but it is his all time favourite compared to other type of biscuits) Tip: You may try adding plain yogurt onto kibbles as it is very good for the stomach and good thing is his mouth or saliva doesnt smell.

BTW, if it is a good dog kibbles, your dog's poo should be little and not too smelly as most nutrients are absorbed and digested. I did a comparison last time when I switched his kibbles from Eukanuba to RoyalCanine. His poo size is like a finger (mine is JRT), not too hard and not too soft.



This post has been edited by pflakes: Jun 30 2011, 01:40 PM

Any1 knows which petshop selling Sportmix Lamb n Rice kibbles in Klang Valley ?
I have 10 factory stray dogs (where I work) to take care of, so I'm looking for reasonable price n made from OK ingredients to feed them.

Been feeding them rice everyday but it is no good for them. Recently 2 young dogs was infected by another old dog which is having skin prob due to bad nutrition/bad immune system. Vets have advised to give kibbles but I have limited budget so I am looking for this.

This post has been edited by CanieAnne: Jul 7 2011, 10:39 AM

Man!! So hard to buy kibbles for my two labs!!
Their appetite very big.. if spend rm200 each month..i'll be the one eating low quality meals ..
EEks...anyone can suggest any affordable better quality kibbles .. i need at least a 18kg pack,..

Reanna, how much should i budget if am to prepare BARF per month for two labs ( small and medium?
I'm going for chicken,leafy veg,eggs , a tiny bit of garlic ( for flea control) maybe with a dash of My Beau for the omega?Where to get grape extract?

BTW, is the price quoted worth the quality?Furrenze
I just calculated a 15kg ( feeding 2.5% for maintenance) needs 11.4kg ( 23 packs*500gm) chicken 500gm rm7.00, mixed rm8.50
SO a month about..rm195....

This post has been edited by genielee_83: Jul 8 2011, 11:29 PM

if u r a beginner of BARF or any other raw feeding, my advise is to make more research regarding the barf and prey if u wan to prepare the food by urself, otherwise i would recommend u buy the raw food from furrenz.com or xoxo pet shop...

ur lab is adult or puppy?

For a puppy,
U should feed 10% of its current weight.
So if ur pup is a puppy, u should feed 150g per day.
Let say u buy the chicken barf from furrenz, ur price per month is (150/500)*RM7*30 days = RM63

If ur lab is adult,
ur lab is underweight seriously, an ideal weight for a adult lab is 25-35kg....
so u should feed 3% of the adult ideal weight per day i.e. 750g-1050g.
so, u month fee for food is RM315 - RM441.
Yeah, it is expensive to maintain a big dog, so better think twice before getting a big breed dog....


All the formula above is just a theory, u have to judge is the portion above is enough for ur lab or not by feeling their rib.

This post has been edited by devil86: Jul 9 2011, 07:37 PM

my lab is mixed with mongrel. that's why it's small compared to pure lab. Even the lab say he has the look but not the size.
I saved him from the road.

I would say which is partial true for BARF. There is a lot of factors which determines the condition of the animal, with food most likely the main reason leading to a better health condition.

BARF diet believes
- Kibbles uses cheaper ingredients
(Which is true for majority commercial dog food producers out there except the few which stresses only on using human grade ingredients and include vitamins and nutrients which dogs or cat aren't able to produce or so-called poor producers of certain vitamins. Eg. For your information, human does not produce Vitamin C and dogs are in poor-producer category.

Always look for food with meat content in their first 5 ingredients. Eg. The first 4 ingredients for Evo dog food is meat, The first 3 ingredient for Orijien is meat. The more meat content the better. Then you know why you are paying so much for high quality food such as Evo and Orijien. But there are also dog food with the price of Orijien and Evo but the second ingredients is cheap ingredients such as Tapioca, Rice, corn . So beware, you might be paying high price for grain use in dog food. This is where I would only half agree on BARF diet)

- Cooking kills nutritional value
(I have no idea on this yet as I'm still looking for more supporting evidence on this as there even seems to be debate on our raw sushi. Why it is bad for us.)

- Kibbles is made of cereals
(I would say true as majority companies uses cereals or fillers in order to bring the cost of the food down. We have it with most of the major pet here in Malaysia. You have to look for kibbles with lesser grains or you look for dog food that uses wholesome food. Any food that has been partially process to extract their nutrition is deem useless as there is no nutritional value to your pet. Eg. Dried beet Pulp - function as to hardened you pet's poo poo as there is a lot of fibers and also fillers to dog food and not to mention cheap as well. I would support on BARF in this case)

- Uses Flavors enhancers like Sugar coating (For cheap commercial dog food, excludes the range of RM200 and above, but depends on ingredients again)
(No need to explain too much. Just justified your self, how can a dog food bag produce with big % of grains can smell nicer than a bag full of meat. If someone tells you that the dog food in the range of RM150++ smell nicer than Orijien or Evo, then you better have a second thought . And look at the ingredients and if rethink if jagung can taste better than Chicken, Lamb or Fish)

- Extend shelf-life
(I know food shouldn't have shelf-lfe, but in times like this even our so called fresh sushi is preserve to extend shelf-life. Commercial dog food uses Vitamin E & C as preservatives. Again this is debatable as "How much of vitamin E & C does the manufacturers put in to preserve the food)

So, if you are going to feed him with BARF diet, you have to remember to feed him with vitamins and nutrients which the body of the dog cannot generate like vitamin C and etc. You have to take care of his nutritional needs well otherwise I would suggest you go for better brands like Evo or Orijien or any other dog food of similar quality. There are more and more manufactures coming in with high quality food.

Take care of you Furry Friends

P/S: I'm sharing based on what I know. I might be wrong, but please share so that I learn from you guys as well. Evo and Orijien is just a guideline as these brands are currently in the market. No point to refer to brands that are not in the market as you would not know what I'm talking about.

c.neko,
Thank you so much for upgrading me.
Some of the facts i had read and learnt. ( But dont know how to relay information to my friends...)
They still believe rice and leftover are cheap and also fine since their dogs' still breathing..
They are so skeptical

So in my dogs' taking Prey Modal and i add in My Beau ( omega) what's more is a must?

I just bought my puppy to the vet for vaccination last Saturday. My puppy took Blackwood for one week, and now she has skin allergy.. The vet told me that Blackwood contains lots of chicken meet...It would cause skin allergy. The vet advise me to get Royal Canin for my puppy...But the vet ran out of stock, I have to wait till the vet restock..I feel bad everytime giving my puppy to eat Blackwood,but i cant do anything..

Why dont you search other place other than waiting for your vet to replenish the stocks? I'm getting my supply on Royal Canine vet prescription for Sensitive stomach blue label at a vet in Seri Petaling.

Ive search but the vet asked me to get the junior large pack for my puppy. So Im waiting for the vet to restock, he told me that this coming Saturday will have stock.

Hi, I saw a reply on Brit dog food. I just wanna clarify some stuff.

I bought Brit for puppy last week..my puppies are pugs and only 5-6 weeks old.
Previously I used Bill Jack and it was very easy to mash up with water..
Then I went to this shop to look for bill jack but the shop asst promoted Brit and said it was good.

I bought.

I came home, and soaked it in warm water to mash it up.. It look longer as it's damn keras! But when I was mashing it up, the water had something floating in it..
It looks like short fur!! More like, shaved bulu's!!!

Send back to the shop today,and he kept arguing it was fibre. Where got fibre look like tht? He agreed then to check with supplier.

My q.is,is it only my pack or is it in every pack??
Is it safe?

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This post has been edited by trifty: Jul 21 2011, 10:07 PM

Wellness brand, anyone?

My doggie has skin allergy, and i found Wellness ok. Also, what about Natural Balance?

Hello..I am from Kuching, Sarawak. Does anyone know where I can get Orijen 13.5kg Adult Dog Food for less than RM250? My local supplier sells it for RM264. Thanks.

Hi there folks,

Would appreciate some good advise in feeding my adult mature Lab Retriever.

I saved her on a road 3 or so years ago and have tried multiple brands:- Blackwood, Eukanuba and recently Sportsman's Pride (all lamb and rice) as she has skin allergies.

Thinking of changing to something else lamb based but unsure of which to buy and something not too expensive. I usually buy 15/18 - 20kg bags.

Walking into pet stores in Damansara Utama I have noted two options:

a) ANF Lamb & Rice; or

b) Proformance Lamb & Rice

Can I get any input or advise on these two brands? Or other brands which are better but cheaper or similarly priced. Both those bags are approximately rm160 each.

Appreciate it. Thanks

This post has been edited by djkeoni: Aug 1 2011, 02:38 PM

I also have Labradors. I give them chicken to eat. Raw..
rm7.90/kg ( chicken), rm7.50/kg duck. Pork is 7.50/kg.
So a day two labs need about 1kg. You can count the cost.
If chicken Rm7.90*30 days.rm237.
No bad shit and foul wee wee.

Just notice genielee_83 link. A good one.

I use Innova Feeding calculator. What do you think.. My Beagle puppy weight about 2.1 kgs.

I found out that i need to feed daily

7/8 Cups or 100.34 g. If converted to tablespoon will be 14 tablespoon a day. Seems like underfeed my puppies as i only fed him 6 chinese soup spoon per day.

From today onwards will feed him 3 times as below.

7am - 5 tablespoon
12pm - 5 tablespoon
8pm - 4 tablespoon