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hawhaw22
post Mar 1 2011, 12:39 PM

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Chicken or lamb, which one is suitable for dog?
where can i buy California Natural dog foods in KL area?
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post Mar 1 2011, 01:17 PM

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You can give yogurt or yakult or vitagen....like RA54 said as long as it contains live cultures or that probatics stuffs....but it's pricy...

so cheaper alternative u can just get those yogurt powder @ pet shop...last time i bought 1 bottle it's bout RM10-12....
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post Mar 1 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(muse@muse @ Mar 1 2011, 01:17 PM)
You can give yogurt or yakult or vitagen....like RA54 said as long as it contains live cultures or that probatics stuffs....but it's pricy...

so cheaper alternative u can just get those yogurt powder @ pet shop...last time i bought 1 bottle it's bout RM10-12....
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Erm..the price of yogurt should be ok....as long as my pup can grow healthy and happy and can make the poo eating behaviour go away, it worth...haha... smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(muse@muse @ Mar 1 2011, 01:17 PM)
You can give yogurt or yakult or vitagen....like RA54 said as long as it contains live cultures or that probatics stuffs....but it's pricy...

so cheaper alternative u can just get those yogurt powder @ pet shop...last time i bought 1 bottle it's bout RM10-12....
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the sugar content in Yakult/Vitagen is so high. Can dogs take so much sugar?
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post Mar 1 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(hawhaw22 @ Mar 1 2011, 12:39 PM)
Chicken or lamb, which one is suitable for dog?
where can i buy California Natural dog foods in KL area?
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As I know in Kuchai Lama Dogroom hv sell tis brand.
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post Mar 1 2011, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(xDingx @ Mar 1 2011, 09:57 AM)
Thank you so much for the useful information  notworthy.gif

I not sure wether my pup gobbling too fast or not, but i can notice that she was chewing the kibble when she eating...

Something come to my concern in ur statement, is Wellness kibble not good? I read from dogfoodanalysis.com, this Wellness kibble is ranked as 6 stars premium dog food....
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Sorry, perhaps I phrased it wrongly. I think it's a good brand for most especially on the grain free diet thing that's popular now(correct me if I'm wrong).

However my shihtzu dislike its smell. It does smells terrible and quite off putting ( I also bought the ocean formula ones). Her stool was also alot darker in colour, almost black and didn't look erm..normal to me? Seems abit dry too. Also she started to smell abit sourish on this diet - she sleeps with me, so I do notice if there's a change in smell. For some reason as well, her rashes came back and ear infections started again too --> these are mostly caused by PH imbalance sometimes which makes their skin/ear canal an awesome breeding ground for bacteria. and Food largely affects their skin PH balance directly - again, correct me if I'm wrong but this is just my understanding from research and constant hounding on my vet's door. The problem went away as soon as I switch her out of it - so i deduced it to that there is something in the Wellness kibbles that's an allergen to her. I have also read on a few forums and reviews where other owners had almost similar problems. Hence, my initial advise for u to read up as your pet seems to be having problem related to eating her stools. smile.gif Wellness is abit high on protein as well, which was another reason I went off it, I know my fat girl won't exercise it out sweat.gif

That being said, IMHO any food can be given a 6 stars premium rating or so(alot of these are marketing ploys) the most important thing is to actually understand your pet's needs and find the suitable diet for them. My current rule of thumb had always been, if even I don't want to put it in my mouth, i won't feed it to them. I have in fact, taken a bite out of most kibbles that I've purchased. But that's just me. and just FYI, there are difference in taste between the RM30 and RM80 per bag ones. Hahaha.

Also, don't give them vitagen! additives, flavoring and sugar - even the white "original" flavour ones! Yakult is fine, recommended before by my vet. There's another korean brand too, also one of these cultured drinks which is supposedly natural, no sugar and all that jazz. Comes in a small lil bottle like yakult but its in blue - most korean groceries shop has them. Taste terrible though, coz got no sugar.

You should also consider cottage cheese! Almost the same kinda nutrients by lower lactose content compared to yogurt.
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(RA54 @ Mar 1 2011, 08:27 PM)
Sorry, perhaps I phrased it wrongly. I think it's a good brand for most especially on the grain free diet thing that's popular now(correct me if I'm wrong).

However my shihtzu dislike its smell. It does smells terrible and quite off putting ( I also bought the ocean formula ones). Her stool was also alot darker in colour, almost black and didn't look erm..normal to me? Seems abit dry too. Also she started to smell abit sourish on this diet - she sleeps with me, so I do notice if there's a change in smell. For some reason as well, her rashes came back and ear infections started again too --> these are mostly caused by PH imbalance sometimes which makes their skin/ear canal an awesome breeding ground for bacteria. and Food largely affects their skin PH balance directly - again, correct me if I'm wrong but this is just my understanding from research and constant hounding on my vet's door. The problem went away as soon as I switch her out of it - so i deduced it to that there is something in the Wellness kibbles that's an allergen to her. I have also read on a few forums and reviews where other owners had almost similar problems. Hence, my initial advise for u to read up as your pet seems to be having problem related to eating her stools. smile.gif Wellness is abit high on protein as well, which was another reason I went off it, I know my fat girl won't exercise it out  sweat.gif

That being said, IMHO any food can be given a 6 stars premium rating or so(alot of these are marketing ploys) the most important thing is to actually understand your pet's needs and find the suitable diet for them. My current rule of thumb had always been, if even I don't want to put it in my mouth, i won't feed it to them. I have in fact, taken a bite out of most kibbles that I've purchased. But that's just me. and just FYI, there are difference in taste between the RM30 and RM80 per bag ones. Hahaha.

Also, don't give them vitagen! additives, flavoring and sugar - even the white "original" flavour ones! Yakult is fine, recommended before by my vet. There's another korean brand too, also one of these cultured drinks which is supposedly natural, no sugar and all that jazz. Comes in a small lil bottle like yakult but its in blue - most korean groceries shop has them. Taste terrible though, coz got no sugar.

You should also consider cottage cheese! Almost the same kinda nutrients by lower lactose content compared to yogurt.
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Dog kibble does affect the skin PH that will make their skin become a breeding skin for bacteria? First time I heard this, learnt new lnowledge today =)

Btw, I'm quite happy that today when I came bec home from work, I say my girl's stool still inside her toilet tray, which mean she didn't eat her stool icon_rolleyes.gif

Btw, may I know what kibble u feeding ur shih tzu now? Perhap I will changemy girl's kibble next time, instead of wellness core, will change to Tast of Thw Wild + Go duck formula =)
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(xDingx @ Mar 1 2011, 11:00 PM)
Btw, may I know what kibble u feeding ur shih tzu now? Perhap I will changemy girl's kibble next time, instead of wellness core, will change to Tast of Thw Wild + Go duck formula =)
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See, it goes away rclxms.gif maybe she was bored! hahaha

Feeding them using BARF method since late last year.

Before this was Orijen(the fish one, with sea vege) + steamed breast meat + carrots. That was good for her, nice improvement on her skin and coat. But now even better tongue.gif

I still have a pack around for emergencies and lazy days. smile.gif


But one thing though is that I've developed a horrible habit with this shihtzu. She kinda shares my dinner or lunch on most days. She eats the meat, I eat the noodles, even curry and rendang and ice cream cones. Used to even have a place on the dinner table at my mom's or dad's place. Hahaha, have cut down drastically now as I've stopped eating anyway near her or simply just hiding when I have my meals. So perhaps alot of her problems could be a result from all these table scraps instead of the kibbles.

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post Mar 2 2011, 10:50 AM

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Is those commercial brand yogurt safe for dogs? e.g. Nestle, Anlene, Marigold
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Feb 27 2011, 04:46 PM)
@Reanne: Thanks for the reply. Appreciated it.
May I know where to purchase it and the expected pricing?
Don't wanna get ripped off, thanks again!
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I know Pet Epicure sells it. I think 1.2kg is roughly RM14 for chicken. Other meats cost more.
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post Mar 3 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(muse@muse @ Mar 1 2011, 01:17 PM)
You can give yogurt or yakult or vitagen....like RA54 said as long as it contains live cultures or that probatics stuffs....but it's pricy...

so cheaper alternative u can just get those yogurt powder @ pet shop...last time i bought 1 bottle it's bout RM10-12....
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go n buy EM- effective microoganism la.. last time use to culture myself and feed my dog but now lazy..
its kinda hard to find EM in kl area though.

check out EM on the net. EM is the things contain in vitagen all those.. but its for animals and plants . for human wan i dunno =D, but vitagen
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post Mar 7 2011, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Feb 26 2011, 05:36 PM)
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this sub-forum.
I just purchased a male, 8 weeks old, Dobermann.
It weighs @ 4 kg and I plan for it to become a guard dog. It needs the size and the build.
May I know what food type/brand that I should get for him (preferable high in protein) that's easily available in KL.
I'm currently on a mixed diet of Eukenaba (Puppy/Chicken-flavor) and Blackwood (For performance and large).
Thanks, your reply is most appreciated!
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If you prefer food in high protein, you can try Evo. As for pricing, it will not be the same as Eukanuba or Blackwood as it is with a minimum 70% meat contains in the bag, which makes Evo one of the highest protein and high nutrient dog foods on the market. There are also some other brands in the market you can consider as well. But if you are looking for size then it's Evo you should be looking for.


Added on March 7, 2011, 2:35 pm
QUOTE(hawhaw22 @ Mar 1 2011, 12:39 PM)
Chicken or lamb, which one is suitable for dog?
where can i buy California Natural dog foods in KL area?
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Which part of KL are you staying? see if i can be of any help.

Regards,
c.neko

This post has been edited by c.neko: Mar 7 2011, 02:35 PM
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post Mar 10 2011, 12:01 AM

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i'm currently in a dilemma as my puppy dont seem to be interested in the high end expensive brand of kibbles.... I tried giving her Artemis & Acana Grain Free.... and she has problem taking them down like how a normal dog would go bonkers over food.... but according to her breeder, she used to take down her food like a greedy pig when she was taking Natural Balance.... problem is, she is still underweight as i can feel her ribs....

should i continue to feed her good food but she wont finish her meals / eat alot?
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should i give her slightly lesser quality food but maybe she will eat alot, but probably wont digest much as the ingredients wouldnt be that good?

could it be that some dogs dont like the kibbles to be a mixture of few types of meat? as the previous 2 flavours i bought contain a mix of lamb, fish, chicken etc
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post Mar 10 2011, 11:45 AM

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did you try to gradually mix-in the new kibbles to your old kibbles?

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post Mar 10 2011, 01:16 PM

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yes i did.....
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post Mar 12 2011, 10:56 AM

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i just bought a shih tzu puppy ,born on 23 becember 2010,wat should i feed her, the breeder give his dog eat vet master....good ma????then science diet le??
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post Mar 15 2011, 12:03 AM

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I have a dog with me. Picked her up from street when she's about 2 weeks old and feed her with milk.

At 1 month old, for starting, I used Hill's SciXnce Plan ( recommended by petshop) and the feller sapu everything. Then I found out that brand is not so good in terms of nutrient so I decided to change to Baker's Oven, of which my little furkid here refused to eat at all, not even when I mixed with the previous brand. blink.gif So what I do was, I got some canned food, mixed the Baker's kibbles in it and let her eat, but the smart feller licked all the canned food, leaving and spitting out the kibbles. rclxub.gif Eventually my brother go get a few different type of kibbles from his friends ( a handful) and mix everything with Baker's Oven then only my dog eat it.

After Baker's Oven, I go for NutriEdgX Lamb and Rice ( buying in bulk, share cost with a few friends), she loved it so much that until today when I try adding some other brands (ie. Evo, Canidae, Orijen..etc) she eats only those she like and leave the others in her bowl rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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Hi, just bought a pack of Golden Eagle (Salmon with Oatmeal favor) 2.5 KG = RM 55 for my dog. Is this brand good for dog? if okay then i will stick with it if not then i will changed it.

And any sifu here care to recommend me a good dog food with reasonable price that i should go for? appreciate and thanks.
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QUOTE(blackright @ Mar 15 2011, 12:03 AM)
I have a dog with me. Picked her up from street when she's about 2 weeks old and feed her with milk.

At 1 month old, for starting, I used Hill's SciXnce Plan ( recommended by petshop) and the feller sapu everything. Then I found out that brand is not so good in terms of nutrient so I decided to change to Baker's Oven, of which my little furkid here refused to eat at all, not even when I mixed with the previous brand. blink.gif So what I do was, I got some canned food, mixed the Baker's kibbles in it and let her eat, but the smart feller licked all the canned food, leaving and spitting out the kibbles. rclxub.gif Eventually my brother go get a few different type of kibbles from his friends ( a handful) and mix everything with Baker's Oven then only my dog eat it.

After Baker's Oven, I go for NutriEdgX Lamb and Rice ( buying in bulk, share cost with a few friends), she loved it so much that until today when I try adding some other brands (ie. Evo, Canidae, Orijen..etc) she eats only those she like and leave the others in her bowl rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Ohhh...... I like your concept of buying in bulk and split it with your friends!
This way you definately save a lot $$$ and ensure the food is not kept for more then 2 months!
I buy a 15lb bag for my puppy, split the kibbles into smaller bags for storage. (I used to buy the 5lb bags when he started weaning and I kept the bags for this purpose)


Added on March 16, 2011, 4:35 pm
QUOTE(mecharojak @ Feb 19 2011, 01:14 PM)
here's a wild idea, why not increase the food volume for your skinny pup instead of using Ekunuba?
No appetite? supplement with a tbl spoon of plain low fat yogurt 15 minutes before a meal.

You cannot bath the dog more than once a week.
Dog skin needs body oils to keep it from drying and flaking.
Each time you bathe it, those important oils are removed.
Brushing with a pin brush once/twice a day (100 strokes) helps in promoting the oils to be generated by the skin.
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He is doing much better with his food now. Now I am afraid if I am over feeding pulak.
Giving him 1 tbsp of plain yogurt once a week, started on evening prim rose oil 2 weeks already,brushing him daily and clean his ear twice a week.
I dont bath him more than once a week, too much work biggrin.gif
What I meant b4 was that, he only had total of 3 baths in his entire 13 weeks as a pup.....you get my meaning??

This goldie dont have hot spot, red skin/spot/ticks nor rashes and i cant figure out what is wrong with him.
He is still on Natural Balance Lamb & Rice - his intake has increase to 3 cups per day.

I started him medicated bath 2 weeks ago, but he is still scratching himself behind the ears and nipping his tail.
Any idea what is going on?

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guys, im feeding my dog evo, need to know is there any pet shop in taman melawati, wangsa maju or jalan genting klang area selling the brand evo ? thanks

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