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RA54
post Mar 1 2011, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(xDingx @ Feb 28 2011, 11:27 PM)
but my pup didnt have poo eating problem when she is on BARF...and now she is on kibble, i think i give sufficient food for her...70g kibble per meal (my girl is 4.5kg), i gv my dog 2 meals a day.. or maybe i just transfer from BARF to kibble, so her stomach cant digest well? and for the yogurt..i think v can oni gv plain yogurt right? may i know where can i get this plain yogurt? went to several supermarkets i oni can find the flavoured yogurt but not plain yogurt..
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Hello xDingx,

my shihtzu used to eat her own stool too! i was quite alarmed and surprised. It's actually a "quite" common condition called coprophagia. It's sorta like your dog's way of telling you they're not getting the full nutrients ingested from the food that they've just consumed or simply a result of them eating way too fast so not fully broken down and traces of it are in the stool.

As you mentioned, because of the switch from BARF to kibbles, perhaps its because she's gobbling it down too fast ( think about it, we do eat our koko krunch faster than biting on nasi lemak's chicken rendang) . What I used to do when I noticed she's gobbling down her food, i threw a small bouncy ball in her bowl. She somehow never figured out to just remove the ball and put up with the difficultly to maneuver around the ball for her food - which helped to slow down her eating. smile.gif

Also it would take her a long while to get used to going back to kibbles if she was on BARF. I first noticed this when i recently fed her back with emergency kibbles cause I was late with my groceries shopping for their food. Fed her at 5pm, and at 10pm she vomitted it all out, and the kibbles were still round and intact. Just shows how long it actually takes for them to break down kibbles - hence, slower nutrients ingestion. So perhaps give her awhile and her body will get used to the slower absorption rate? The whole eating their own stool ways do go away on its own for some(as shared by friends) but mine was resolved simply by switching diets to a suitable one. You can also buy these tablets called ForBid that u mix with their food. It makes their stool "unappetizing". Adding to that, perhaps read more on Wellness as well. Wasn't very good for mine sad.gif

As for yogurt, there are also capsules that you can buy which contains the same kinda stuffs. But Marigold Natural Low Fat is good too - most supermakrets have them, even petrol stations. I share a small tub every few days with my two dogs and myself. Just make sure it says contains live cultures or that probatics stuffs. ideally though, would be to just make em yourself. Very easy, just get the kit from one of those organic shops.

Hope that helps! thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2011, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(xDingx @ Mar 1 2011, 09:57 AM)
Thank you so much for the useful information  notworthy.gif

I not sure wether my pup gobbling too fast or not, but i can notice that she was chewing the kibble when she eating...

Something come to my concern in ur statement, is Wellness kibble not good? I read from dogfoodanalysis.com, this Wellness kibble is ranked as 6 stars premium dog food....
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Sorry, perhaps I phrased it wrongly. I think it's a good brand for most especially on the grain free diet thing that's popular now(correct me if I'm wrong).

However my shihtzu dislike its smell. It does smells terrible and quite off putting ( I also bought the ocean formula ones). Her stool was also alot darker in colour, almost black and didn't look erm..normal to me? Seems abit dry too. Also she started to smell abit sourish on this diet - she sleeps with me, so I do notice if there's a change in smell. For some reason as well, her rashes came back and ear infections started again too --> these are mostly caused by PH imbalance sometimes which makes their skin/ear canal an awesome breeding ground for bacteria. and Food largely affects their skin PH balance directly - again, correct me if I'm wrong but this is just my understanding from research and constant hounding on my vet's door. The problem went away as soon as I switch her out of it - so i deduced it to that there is something in the Wellness kibbles that's an allergen to her. I have also read on a few forums and reviews where other owners had almost similar problems. Hence, my initial advise for u to read up as your pet seems to be having problem related to eating her stools. smile.gif Wellness is abit high on protein as well, which was another reason I went off it, I know my fat girl won't exercise it out sweat.gif

That being said, IMHO any food can be given a 6 stars premium rating or so(alot of these are marketing ploys) the most important thing is to actually understand your pet's needs and find the suitable diet for them. My current rule of thumb had always been, if even I don't want to put it in my mouth, i won't feed it to them. I have in fact, taken a bite out of most kibbles that I've purchased. But that's just me. and just FYI, there are difference in taste between the RM30 and RM80 per bag ones. Hahaha.

Also, don't give them vitagen! additives, flavoring and sugar - even the white "original" flavour ones! Yakult is fine, recommended before by my vet. There's another korean brand too, also one of these cultured drinks which is supposedly natural, no sugar and all that jazz. Comes in a small lil bottle like yakult but its in blue - most korean groceries shop has them. Taste terrible though, coz got no sugar.

You should also consider cottage cheese! Almost the same kinda nutrients by lower lactose content compared to yogurt.
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(xDingx @ Mar 1 2011, 11:00 PM)
Btw, may I know what kibble u feeding ur shih tzu now? Perhap I will changemy girl's kibble next time, instead of wellness core, will change to Tast of Thw Wild + Go duck formula =)
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See, it goes away rclxms.gif maybe she was bored! hahaha

Feeding them using BARF method since late last year.

Before this was Orijen(the fish one, with sea vege) + steamed breast meat + carrots. That was good for her, nice improvement on her skin and coat. But now even better tongue.gif

I still have a pack around for emergencies and lazy days. smile.gif


But one thing though is that I've developed a horrible habit with this shihtzu. She kinda shares my dinner or lunch on most days. She eats the meat, I eat the noodles, even curry and rendang and ice cream cones. Used to even have a place on the dinner table at my mom's or dad's place. Hahaha, have cut down drastically now as I've stopped eating anyway near her or simply just hiding when I have my meals. So perhaps alot of her problems could be a result from all these table scraps instead of the kibbles.


 

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