oh ok thanks...

hehe...
will there be any price drop in june/july?
andis there any blog/web where newbie like me can learn about all these???

With the panny 20mm pancake lens widest aperture (f/1.7) and excessive neon lighting, there's no problem shooting with 1/100s shutter speed and ISO 100

Camera: Panasonic DMC-GF1
Exposure: 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture: f/1.7
Focal Length: 20 mm
ISO Speed: 100


It's a photo of Tokyo red light district by the way

Great picture!

What else you managed to snap while you were there? xD

Yeah bro .. more pics more !!

your handheld is good

guys noob question here.. we cant zoom with pancake lens rite? how do u guys solve this?

Camera body will drop with announcement of new models.
Lens seldom drop, or the drop is not significant.

As for learning, google is your best friend or just ask questions here.

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Added on April 28, 2010, 5:42 amGo nearer to the subject or change lens.

This post has been edited by bbjslee: Apr 28 2010, 05:42 AM

You guys think too much hahaha. It's the similar sight all over the streets with big sized bouncers standing outside the shops I'm sure you get different sight when you actually go in

Not really, I tend to shake. It's just that the there was more than enough ambience lighting that I could shoot at 1/100s

Pancake is a prime lens, there's no way to solve it, as bbjslee suggested, go nearer to the subject.

I have both 14-45mm and 20mm, and I find myself using 20mm most of the time due to the light weight nature and poisoning f/1.7 aperture

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Apr 28 2010, 08:06 AM

Do you have samples for indoor low light shots?

I'm practically using the 20mm for everything. I don't really miss zooming.

You might want to practice on framing since with proper framing you will get what you need.

Remember that in the past, zoom lenses never existed.

actually based on experience, do you guys recommend GF1 or EPL-1? function n performance wise...

and since it's micro four thirds, does it mean it has the same mount? Olympus can use Pana 20mm 1.7?

Yes the lenses are using the same mount. My E-PL1 is using pana 20mm pancake.

For me, E-PL1 is for those casual users. Like me, I don't see the need to post process my pictures. I like them the way they are. And E-PL1's JPEG output is already great.

As for GF-1, the RAW is great. You will have full customization if you are into RAW & post processing.

I was once in your place and I decided to get the E-PL1 cause it suits my needs more than the GF-1.

So, just go with the one you need.

Dude, this question has been asked million times lol, you can find a lot of comparison reviews online, please Google.

GF1 for faster AF performance, higher ISO, faster shutterspeed.

E-PL1 for built-in IS, more art filters, more punch for Jpeg output.

Yes is same mount for both can exchange lenses to use.

ON the AF performance, wonder has it changed after new firmware for E-PL1

I notice it is faster, but how does it compare to GF1?

I believe that the GF1 is still better in the AF department.

GF1 Made in Japan and E-PL1 Made in China right?

Actually I'm not so sure how fast the AF difference between both, mostly read from what other reviewers said.

GF1 is faster due to the pre-AF and using Panny own lens.

[quote=bbjslee,Apr 28 2010, 05:40 AM]
Camera body will drop with announcement of new models.
Lens seldom drop, or the drop is not significant.

As for learning, google is your best friend or just ask questions here.

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thanks...

ic..now i know that pancake cant zoom...hmmm...pancake is that short lense right?

20mm what does it mean? ( sorry )...what's with 14 mm and 20 mmm?

and with sony's to be launched soon.any idea on the material?

hi guyz, I noticed that my E-PL1 taking quite long time to capture if I m using P or S mode. It works fine for M.

hmm anythng wrong?

I'm assuming you are in a low light condition?