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 Intel LGA1155 P67/Z68/Z77, Sandy/Ivy Bridge Architecture

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post Apr 29 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 28 2010, 09:47 PM)
according to fudzilla i read a post a few days ago , they said that the quad core 32 nm sandybridge will be 65W tdp at best which is really cool i mean suppose if ita 2.8ghz quad core on a 65w beating i7 930/i7 860 due to new architecture will be awesome.

I really want to upgrade to i7 930 from my Q9400 to try some multi gpu setups but problem is 130w is too high for a proc also i am scared for the fact that if i upgrade now it will be obsolete by april next yr as 65w tdp quad proc will give better performance.

any news on how many pcie lanes will be supported by x68/p67 chips hopefully x8/x8/x8 minimum
i am also holding out on my laptop upgrade
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Well worth the wait. biggrin.gif

Check here and here. The quaddies have better turbo boost functions and lower TDP. Don't bother with the 6 cores and 8 cores. Really not practical with us average users.

Even the laptop proc seems promising in providing better 1080p playback. nod.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 08:59 AM

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i'll try to stay with quad.. coz sufficient edy..
but if system for more cores priced cheaper.. can consider then..
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post Apr 30 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 30 2010, 08:59 AM)
i'll try to stay with quad.. coz sufficient edy..
but if system for more cores priced cheaper.. can consider then..
Looking at the task manager, most of my cores are hardly fully utilized even in majority of games unless running some synthethic benchmarks to stress them out. Quad core would be more than sufficient nowadays as well as future usage.. wink.gif For normal usage such as word processing, internet browsing, audio/video playback, simple flash games, etc.. a quad core is a bit of overkill.. tongue.gif

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if for rm 800 can get a 32nm 2.8 ghz six core intel then why not i will take it

intel will release usd 575 six core at 3.2 ghz this year they might do a 2.93 ghz at usd 284

hi any ideas when will x68 or p65 mobo will release/ will they have tri sli at 8x/8x/8x?? some say Q1 some Q3 if Q3 2011 then should i get x58 now

hopefully usd 200 hey so p65/67 are coming before x68??? but x58 came before p55
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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 30 2010, 11:39 AM)
Looking at the task manager, most of my cores are hardly fully utilized even in majority of games unless running some synthethic benchmarks to stress them out. Quad core would be more than sufficient nowadays as well as future usage.. wink.gif For normal usage such as word processing, internet browsing, audio/video playback, simple flash games, etc.. a quad core is a bit of overkill.. tongue.gif
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yup.. i like to open alot of things.. i noticed in dual cores cpu a little bit slow on the process..
on quad it's more smooth.. switching between program make it faster to act..
though it's mostly idle.. but really need that 'critical move'.. biggrin.gif
can't bear the cost of waiting.. tongue.gif
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New Intel P67/H67 Motherboards Shown Off - MSI & Asus

http://www.trustedreviews.com/motherboards...ds-Shown-Off/p1

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardwar...en-computex-too

Intel Sandy Bridge processors rumored to be named Core i3/i5/i7-2000 series

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According to the fresh rumor, Intel's upcoming 32nm chips will keep the Core brand and will still be divided in the i3, i5 and i7 families but the model number will be 'updated' to the 2000 range. For example, there could be a Core i3-2300, a Core i5-2500, and a Core i7-2800. Please note that these names are supposed to be of LGA 1155 parts although the higher-end LGA 13xx+ CPUs should be in-line with them. Expect Intel to be mum on these rumors, at least until Q4.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%2Ftid-46719%2F

Intel’s Next Generation CPUs Leaked

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Core i7 2600: Quad-Core processor with Hyper-Threading, 3.2 GHz, 8 MB L3 cache
Core i5 2400: Quad-Core without Hyper-Threading, 3,1 GHz, 6 MB L3 cache
Core i5 2500: Quad-Core without Hyper-Threading, 3,3 GHz, 6 MB L3 cache
Core i3 2100: Dual-Core with Hyper-Threading, 3.1 GHz, 3 MB L3 cache
Core i3 2120: Dual-Core with Hyper-Threading, 3.3 GHz, 3 MB L3 cache

These specs are unconfirmed by Intel, so for now they cannot be assumed as completely accurate. Expect to see these released sometime in 2011.
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post Jul 15 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Jul 15 2010, 08:36 AM)
Intel’s Next Generation CPUs Leaked
These specs are unconfirmed by Intel, so for now they cannot be assumed as completely accurate. Expect to see these released sometime in 2011.
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All of them officially support DDR3-1333 (unfortunately). Higher than that consider overclocking

what i mean is sandy bridge still stuck at DDR3-1333 just as most bloomfield still stuck at DDR3-1066.

read here: http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/process...r3-1333-support

Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?

Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.

Correct me if wrong.

With Sandy Bridge being introduced, PCI will going to be obsolete too.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/news/intel-might-drop-pci

Perhaps still no native SATA-3

http://www.fudzilla.com/motherboard/mother...ipset-shapes-up
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post Jul 15 2010, 06:41 PM

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huh... higher ram is consider overclocking??
then if i slot in ddr3-1600 ram is consider overclocking??
i thought the MB manufacture will provide some headroom to support higher speed RAM up to ddr3-2000 or more
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post Jul 15 2010, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Jul 15 2010, 09:01 PM)
what i mean is sandy bridge still stuck at DDR3-1333 just as most bloomfield still stuck at DDR3-1066.

read here: http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/process...r3-1333-support

Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?

Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.

Correct me if wrong.
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That one have to tweak a bit. If it has XMP ( Extreme Memory Profile) then just select it from the BIOS and the RAM goes all the way up to the level it is supposed to run at.
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post Jul 16 2010, 12:28 AM

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I thought the DDR3-1600 will run at 1600 automatically..
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post Jul 16 2010, 01:55 AM

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hmm... hmm.gif i never knew that....
but i always follow the MB ram support list so i have never been trouble by such thing b4 and so i thought is something like plug and play sweat.gif

is there any news on 8 core desktop proc?? xeon (x7560, x7550, L7555) already have few proc run on 8 core 16 thread....==
sigh even the corei7 970 not yet lunch...
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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Jul 15 2010, 09:01 PM)
what i mean is sandy bridge still stuck at DDR3-1333 just as most bloomfield still stuck at DDR3-1066.

read here: http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/process...r3-1333-support

Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?

Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.

Correct me if wrong.
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QUOTE(ronaldlee007 @ Jul 16 2010, 12:28 AM)
I thought the DDR3-1600 will run at 1600 automatically..
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 16 2010, 01:55 AM)
hmm... hmm.gif  i never knew that....
but i always follow the MB ram support list so i have never been trouble by such thing b4 and so i thought is something like plug and play sweat.gif
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it's all based on the SPD. EAch SPD set has 3 speed rating programmed into it.

e.g. a DDR3-1600 module has 3 speed rating: 1600, 1333, and 1066. But the chipset is only qualified at 1333. So, if u put in a DDR3-1600 module, the 1333 mobo will auto-select the 2nd speed rating (1333).

as jeopardise mentioned earlier, any speed higher than the official qualified speed is considered overclocking.

remember: each chipset has a maximum qualified speed (jeopardise stated up there). Bloomfiled at 1066. Sandy Bridge at 1333. It's a normal progression.

but however, DRAM speed will always defined higher. Again, it must be qualified against the chipset maker (this is called validation).

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thanks for the clarification

However based on Wiki, Sandy Bridge memory controller may support DDR3-1600

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# Integrated Memory Controller with maximum 25.6 GB/s bandwidth, supports DDR3-1600 dual channel RAM.


Until the new architecture being launched, things may change.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 20 2010, 10:45 PM)
is there any news on 8 core desktop proc?? xeon (x7560, x7550, L7555) already have few proc run on 8 core 16 thread....==
sigh even the corei7 970 not yet lunch...
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What u mean? u eat core i7-970 for lunch? laugh.gif

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tbh, it is all the same, software need to catch up.

Right now having many core is pretty pointless unless we chasing every new game that comes out.

For non-hardware gamer like me, multicore more than dual core is more like bragging rights. tongue.gif Really pointless now. tongue.gif

May be it is time to have virtual PC where 1 PC is commonly shared by whole family with each family member having a dumb terminal. tongue.gif
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having said that, i remembered an article about windows need rework to achieve multicore performance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-m...ours,10153.html

Not easy to go (really) parallel sweat.gif

Both software & hardware must work together

Hmmm WTH

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Intel to limit Sandy Bridge overclocking?
At least according to leaked slides
by Lars-Göran Nilsson

July 23, 2010


IF  WE'RE TO believe what is meant to be Intel presentation slides of its upcoming Sandy Bridge processors that were embedded in a video posted on YouTube by HKEPC, it looks like Intel's LGA-1155 processors will have very limited overclocking potential. The reason for this is because Intel decided to "help" with the cost cutting by implementing a clock generator built into the chipset, rather than relying on an additional chip on the motherboard.

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However, by doing so, Sandy Bridge processors on the LGA-1155 platform won't be easily overclocked as the way Intel implemented the clock generator means that all the busses are tied to it. The end result of this is that if you try to increase BCLK you'll also increase the speed of all other busses in the system, such as USB, SATA, PCI Express, DMI etc. Not exactly a great implementation, at least not for anyone that's interested in overclocking their system as Intel claims that you won't be able to push the bus by more than two to three percent.

More here :

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/07/23/int...e-overclocking/



If this is true then, it is ok to buy 1156 to play with overclocking. WOn't wait until 1155, in fact future is still blur.
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Well, it is still pointless despite even after optimized. How would a daily internet surfing, office documents, youtube, watch movies, music can use up quad core? Even dual core is hard be full use. Unless u are dealing with gaming or multimedia it is pretty hard to make use of it.

Have u guys seen CSI? those computer screen with 3D interface really shine. We have this in window yet? not even window blinds come close..

I would buy a 6 core for that if Microsoft really make a window look like that. And we dont even have window that incorporate some AI to think for us. tongue.gif I need to open my web browser with my eye focus, can i do that? yes. Nintendo Wii have motion sensor that is quick enough without delays, so it is plotable to PC too. When I type a forum reply like this i shouldnt even type all my characters, my PC will read what I type and able to predict what I am going to say & type my words for me. When u put all this fancy features in, u can expect people start jumping the fastest processor they can buy again like when they did in Pentium 1/2 Era.

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Oops.

Looks like Bulldozer is going to reign in 2011.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010...-overclocking/1

Maybe if the performance warrants the expensive price tag as well as the non-OCable CPU, it could be worth a shot.
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Intel to announce next-generation desktop platform at CES 2011

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As Intel plans to ship its next-generation 6-series chipsets (Cougar Point) in the week 42 of 2010 (October 2010), sources from motherboard makers believe Intel will officially announce its new Sugar Bay desktop platform at CES 2011 in the US, but the makers will start distributing their motherboards to the channel in December of 2010.

The initial launch of the Sugar Bay platform will include a Sandy Bridge-based processor, featuring a quad core CPU and integrated GPU; and will be paired with P67 chipset-based motherboards, targeting mainstream markets.

The new platform will support the latest Hyper-Threading technology and Intel Advanced Turbo Boost technology.

Intel, at a later time, will continue to launch more Sandy Bridge CPUs with unlocked multipliers and dual-cores.

Meanwhile, Intel will launch the Waimea Bay platform for high-end markets to replace the existing Tylersburg. Waimea Bay consists of a Sandy Bridge E-based processor and motherboard based on Intel's Patsburg chipset. Sandy Bridge E will feature an integrated memory controller and PCI Express connection , and will support memory up to DDR3 2666.

For the company's server line, Intel will launch the Bromolow platform, which also adopts Sandy Bridge processors.

Intel in the week 50 of 2010 will start shipping its Huron River platform for notebooks to partners and related products are expected to start appearing in the channel after mid-January 2011. In 2012, Intel will launch 22nm Ivy Bridge processors.

Intel declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100728PD223.html
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More Sandy Bridge performance numbers (+Rumoured Pricing)

Compared to Bulldozer there already is a nice collection of benchmark numbers for Sandy Bridge. For example those posted by Coolaler, a few BOINC benchmark results and a video with a mobile Sandy Bridge running Cinema 4D. The video analysis done in the Planet3DNow forums resulted in a deciphered score of 19641, confirmed by the measured run time (44 s). This means, the tested mobile Sandy Bridge processor was as fast as a Core i7-975 Extreme. Another comparison could be done by using a recently published Geekbench result of a 1.6 GHz Sandy Bridge CPU. So I compared it to a Core i7 also running at 1.6 GHz and made following table with overall results and a diagram showing the differences in detail.

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So the average performance increase with those CPUs at the same base clock, but with different Turbo Boost implementations, is about 20%.

...see the rest in dresdenboy's blog:
http://citavia.blog.de/2010/08/05/more-san...umbers-9128712/

edit: rumoured pricing on some dual/quads:

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Top model with 3.4 GHz:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...%2F&sl=de&tl=en

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