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z3r0717
post Apr 28 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(White Pegasus @ Apr 28 2010, 04:43 PM)
can model thinner remove dirt and gundam marker that already mark on my model?? where can i get the model thinner??
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Model thinner can remove paints and etc things on your kit. It can erase your gundam marker but depends what type(lacquer or acrylic) it is using..
You'll have to becareful too as too much thinner will "clean" more than you need...
Model thinner can get in in hobby shops, please check the pinned threads for more information.

QUOTE(ken3230 @ Apr 28 2010, 08:46 PM)
cant realy understand hmm.gif
hear tis b4
settler use on flat surface
softerner use on like "longkang" surface
izit true ?? hmm.gif
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actually both can use on flat surface but yes softerner is for "longkang" surface..
Both of these are meant for decals(sticker/water type)
Softerner can remove the "bubbles" in the decal... settler also can but not as much as softerner..
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post Apr 28 2010, 09:17 PM

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IT depends on what decals you are using...
i used settlers, have never used softerners... i will use them in the future to reduce the "silvering" on my decals...
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post Apr 28 2010, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ken3230 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:28 PM)
if i m using water slide decal ?
wat do u mean by "silvering"
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hmm.. actually both also can la..just both different uses. like you said the "longkang" then softerner will be the suitable one

As for silvering
it's the side of the decal where you can see the "white", something like not "sticking" properly...
I don't really know how to explain it... showing a picture would be easier...
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post Apr 28 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(ken3230 @ Apr 28 2010, 09:48 PM)
so both get the same result but softerner got extra function (use on longkang surface) ??
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not exactly...
take from pinned thread...
Decal Softener
This liquid makes decal soft and conform to the surface it is stuck on. Usually on a gloss surface across the panel lines, the decal is cut and this liquid is brushed on to let the decal stick in the insides of the line to make it look painted on
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post May 4 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(dante_cool @ May 4 2010, 07:30 AM)
On the other hand ,w ould it be the same for Gundam with gold coating ( Akatsuki ) ? I have yet to top coat the entire gundam , fear it might ruin the golden parts .

Anyone topcoated their akatsuki gundam before ?

Cheers

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If you have not painted your Akatsuki before which it came originally then leave it... Top coating it can ruin it..
Unless you have painted the gold yourself
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post May 5 2010, 08:42 PM

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Don't forget to shake well and spray from left to right, right to left method...
Spraying too think will also cause frosting
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post May 8 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ May 8 2010, 01:38 AM)
Acrylic also can be use right?
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No.... enamel most suitable because you need the flow of the paint
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post May 9 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(stanleysum @ May 9 2010, 04:14 AM)
what if i use this technique on plain plastic? acrylic can? i was thinking to use this technique by using Mr. Hobby color + Mr. Hobby Leveling Thinner. after that will apply Mr. Super Clear Flat.

Acrylic = water based?
Enamel = oil based?
Lacquer = water or oil based?
Mr Super Clear Flat = acrylic/water based?
Mr. Hobby Color = acrylic/water based?
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You can use lacquer or acrylic as a base paint... Either one only!
Both can be used for hand painting or Air brush..

Acrylic = water based
Enamel = oil based i think(not sure)
Lacquer = oil based
Mr Super Clear Flat = oil Or water, more info on the link below
Mr. Hobby Color = old or water, more info on the link below

Check this link for more info...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/488910
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post May 9 2010, 01:05 PM

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ah ic...
enamel is actually the way to go.. because you'll need to clean them up after the excess paints come out.. So enamel is easier to clear rather than acrylic
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post May 9 2010, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(stanleysum @ May 9 2010, 03:35 PM)
ic.. thanks for clearing my doubt  biggrin.gif  i guess i must head out and buy enamel paint + enamel thinner  cry.gif broke again

1 more question.. since i'm not painting my kit. i don't need to spray a layer of Mr. Super Clear Gloss before i perform panel line wash right? hope the answer is NO NEED and will save me another RM3x  tongue.gif
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Should be ok since the original plastic is already a bit glossy... You'll also have a easier cleaning job because you don't have a base paint which is safe when you try to clean the excess paints..

QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ May 9 2010, 04:12 PM)
Can we use it straight out from the bottle or do we need to add a little bit of enamel thinner?? Plus some modeler i watch they use lighter fluid eg. zippo to thin the liquid. And to remove the excess paint, they use lighter fluid too. Is this correct?
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Like inquisytor said, you'll need to add enamel thinner...
yes, you can use zippo fluid.. When adding it to the enamel paint, make the paint watery but NOT too watery until the paint fades...

QUOTE(inquisytor @ May 9 2010, 04:53 PM)
^ If you are planning to use it for wash technique, then you will need to thin it. Enamel can be thin with lighter fluid, enamel hobby thinner, or art use oil paint thinner.

Best choice is still hobby thinner cos it's purer in terms of chemical content. Thus the chemical reaction with the paint is better. Lighter fluid might be bad if you use those cheap quality ones, just go for Zippo brand, shud be fine.
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Yes, very true... Do NOTE zippo fluid though is cheap but must be very careful when using it to clean the excess paints..
If rub/clean the excess paint too much or too hard, your base paint MIGHT fade off...
This is from self-experience..
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post May 10 2010, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(yellow_label2207 @ May 10 2010, 09:42 AM)
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may i know where can i buy this boosters?
tq for the help.
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http://www.mgs2u.com/shop/browse.php?cgrfnbr=202&s=1010
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post May 11 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(stanleysum @ May 11 2010, 09:27 AM)
finally painted my SD Strike Gundam shield. My first attempt of hand painting thou. one thing i learn during the process of painting... painting does not stay on the plastic well (i think this is where primer shine. is it recommended to prime before hand paint?) and it is very hard to cover the original plastic color (painting white color over the red plastic). brush stroke is also an issue. i'm using Mr. color semi gloss paint paint + leveling thinner. Took me 2hours++ to complete the small shield.. lol..
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You can paint without the primer but your paint will not stick so well and it'll peel off easily... It's a common issue that white is hard to cover over existing colors as Airbrush also have this problem so that's why you need more practice.. Brush strokes are common for hand painting especially large areas, in order to void them, you'll need plenty of practice... no one say hand painting was easy.. wink.gif

QUOTE(Harddisk @ May 11 2010, 09:52 AM)
I started doing panel lining yesterday, with Tamiya's Acrylic paint. I mixed a little white into the black so that it doesn't seemed too dark and mixed in plenty of Tamiya thinner. Somehow, the white doesn't seem to dissolve properly in the black. Then my brush start to "clog" up, somehow with the pieces of the acrylic paint.

Any advice on this? Or should I just stick to using watercolour instead?
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hmm... isn't acrylic suppose to be mixed with water since it's water based paint... every time if you mix a color, always always "stir/mix" them well before painting... your brush start to "clog" up might be because it's starting to get dry... when painting, try not to paint with a fan/aircond on because it will dry the paint faster...
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Just try it... if someone shows you, it'll be different cause reality and photo may look different.. you want to know the result then test it yourself..
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post May 19 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 19 2010, 11:32 AM)
Hi, i am new here
just fin my resin kit with acrylic color, any good suggestion of clear coat (last layer) to it.? thx
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Isn't it up to you? there's flat, semi-gloss and gloss... so it really ends up how you want it to look like.

QUOTE(shauno @ May 19 2010, 03:37 PM)
guys, planning to get a scriber.. so far, tamiya seems to have one pretty decently priced here but it doesn't really look like the hasegawa scribers which looks like a pen. any input on the tamiya scriber one? seems loads cheaper than the hasegawa one. quality how?
thanks biggrin.gif
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The one you mentioned is actually meant for cutting pla-plate.
"Equipped with a blade especially designed to cut plastic. " quote from the site...
you can actually use it to do straight panel lines other than that, it'll be a bit tough..
like you mentioned, those like look pen those are better to use..
There's a cheaper way is that you use a drill holder(suddenly forgot what you call it) and put a needle in front will have the same function like the pen from hasegawa

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QUOTE(inquisytor @ May 19 2010, 08:18 PM)
^ Drill holder ... It's pin vice bro
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lol... thanks.. suddenly forgot , long time din touch gunpla already. notworthy.gif
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post May 20 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 20 2010, 04:33 PM)
sad.gif sorry for not tell properly...these 2 parts need :-

1.my predator resin kit armour parts & backpack now fin with weather effect,(black base + silver)..but  like to made it looks really metal..

2.predator skin.

i hear that last layer coat will protect the color, it is true?.
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ooouh.... i thought you were talking about gundams... lol.. my bad...
hmm... since you already put weather effects, usually people will go with flat to "preserve" the effects.. IF you want metal(shining type), then you'll have to go with gloss..

2. predator skin, hmm maybe semi-gloss or flat..

Yes, top/clear coat does protects the color, that's the purpose of it...

I am just giving my suggestion as i've never done a resin kit or a figure before so it'll be slightly different from gundam..
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Example for you and for me... lol
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post May 20 2010, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 20 2010, 06:10 PM)
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photo of predator cyborg arm, (i got one).. lol....my one is celtic, should borrow my dad digital cam to shoot & post for better reference..
pls suggest brand of coat (gloss, semi gloss & flat)..cnt wait to try on it..
really thx your post..
btw, need airbrush to coat it or normal paint brush?
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ooh ic.. i am a predator fan but not as big as you...
hmm... Popular ones will be Mr.hobby... There's 2 types, 1 is bottle type(for AirBrush use) and 1 is spray can type..
if you have AB i suggest using that cause you can control it and less chances of getting frosting(something like white dust).
Spray can would be an alternative choice but have to becareful not to get frosting...

hope that helps
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post May 24 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(shauno @ May 24 2010, 05:33 PM)
i see.. what do you guys use for scribing usually then?
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cheaper way is like i mentioned get a pin vise and put the needle in the pin vise..
other way would be getting those expensive ones like you mentioned
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ May 25 2010, 12:49 AM)
uh guyz... how to remove parts tht were stuck together with elephant glue ar?

i mistaken glued some parts together doh.gif
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elephant glue??? i guess you'll have to saw it into half already...
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post May 27 2010, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(ken3230 @ May 27 2010, 06:21 PM)
thx

another question  notworthy.gif  how u guys know the coat enough
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If it's Flat coat, it'll be obvious...
min 1 time, max 2-3 times enough.... more than that is dangerous..
if you wanna try, try it on a plastic spoon, you can see the difference
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