Mental illnesses usually can be traced to the individual's personal negative history like stress, anxiety or emotional trauma. Or perhaps by a defect in the individual's brain or body.

How then can you explain the rapid change of behavior of the individual when clearly there is no evidence of any unnaturalness of the individual's psychological or physical history before the person got "mentally ill"?

But then again, I personally don't know anyone who has been "possessed" before, so... I wouldn't know if anyone actually fit the above description.

I'm just saying, there's always a 50/50 chance of a "crazy" person being mentally ill, or possessed.

just so u know, Nostradamus makes TONS of predictions. and they are not proven in chronological order. ie

he make predictions A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H

C comes true, then G, then A.. others are "still pending"

given the unlimited amount of time for the predictions to happen, heck its gonna happen someday in the future

another hints
regarding 9-11 incident, Nostradamus predicted it. Did u know the actual predictions? a giant bird hit a giant rock. "very close" to the real incident right? it could mean anything

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

I apparently dont belive it.but there're some magical issue that happened to my own flesh few years back.its like after you called some well-known people who has that magical power to cure you,it works perfectly in unexpected manner.performing superstition that you would call false and fake in fact of rationality.hence,being superstitious that i'dnt claim to be logically in theory has helped to recover one's from being so insane and out of mud .

I am worshipping God if i kill jww Birch with tradisional way?

I 100% believe in sorcery.

In Islam, ghost is actually Jinns.

Jinns = creatures that are made of fire and can't be seen from human's naked eye. Jinns, like humans consist of evil ones or good ones, and has many religions like us.

Sorcery comes when humans collaborated with evil Jinns to do nuisance in human world!

well, ofcourse, since you believe in your religion, then you believe in everything your religion says.
there wont be a single person embracing muslim( as in religious) that doesnt believe in Jinn and sorcery.

I wouldn't be so sure.

If science cannot prove the existence of God then this science cannot disprove the existence of ghosts & spirits.

As for magic & sorcery, try to read up on the life of that infamous western occultist Aleister Crowley. A little closer to home would be Mona Fandey. People who knew her when she was alive said she had a tangible power.

Its always second hand sources. Anyone here actually know a real bomoh and witnessed the so called sorcery?

There are times when things happen around us that can't be explained away by mere science, things that make u got 'wtf?!' and simply can't be explained. I used to believe that things r straight forward,that there's a scientific explanation for everything. But now, I'm a lil open to alternatives.

I believe in sorcery....religion that has many involved with sorcery is kabbalah
. Try read the book, n u will find a lot of sorcery n mystic involved.....

The 9/11 event too is a part of "kaballastic ritual"

My suggestion, why dont u try start playing ouija board n see who welcome u

This post has been edited by kuroman84: Aug 31 2010, 02:42 PM

Possibly at his time, the words "aeroplane" and "skyscraper" weren't invented yet.

I see this a why not from engineering perseptive

I mean, talk about teleport, the japs did it with lights particles, and to be able to throw fire balls, freeze any thing that I touched?

I see possibilities if engineering is being applied...

as for magic, "there is no such thing as magic in magic" from breaking the magician`s code

If there is magic, there will be no suffer in this world. Seem that everything will be in perfect condition unless got ppl using dark mac (if it exist) Furthermore, magician nowadays are preferly to be address as "Masteers of Illussion" instead of Magicians...

And what is the point of your question, that if someone knows a real bomoh and has witnessed this sorcery - he is supposed to come and give you a demo of his prowess? Since you indulge in words and demand proof then maybe I should also use words and ask if you have proof that this sorcery doesn't exist?

This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 16 2010, 10:33 PM

how can someone proof sorcery dont exist, it should those who claim it does to show proof.

Using the same line of argument I will have to say "how can someone proof sorcery exists, those who claim it doesn't have to show proof."

Kinda like the chicken and egg situation, which came first?

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Added on September 16, 2010, 11:16 pmMillions of people believe in God, whichever the religion. How come we don't see more of him???

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Added on September 16, 2010, 11:18 pmIt is a technique called 'cold reading'.

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Added on September 16, 2010, 11:20 pmMalaya pakai bomoh, how to win when the British pakai witches, warlocks, shamans and sorcerers!

This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 16 2010, 11:20 PM

it is not the same, to proof the sorcery exists you just need to demonstrate a single act that can be duplicated, to proof it does not exists you will have to prove everywhere in the world, every single claim of sorcery is false.

it is like in court case where presumption of innocence mean the prosecution can not make argument like "You can’t prove that the defendant didn’t commit the crime" as the basis for his case. he need to present evidence that show the defendant have indeed commit the crime.

This post has been edited by robertngo: Sep 17 2010, 03:42 PM

i know some people say believe in the almighty but still go to bomoh for help...