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 Do you believe in SORCERY?, Any scientific evidence

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Awakened_Angel
post Sep 14 2010, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 1 2010, 02:48 PM)
It is ironic that people do not believe in sorcery today but can accept telepath, clairvoyance, psychic, and David Copperfield. If these people had lived in those times would they not be branded as a witch?
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I see this a why not from engineering perseptive

I mean, talk about teleport, the japs did it with lights particles, and to be able to throw fire balls, freeze any thing that I touched?

I see possibilities if engineering is being applied...

as for magic, "there is no such thing as magic in magic" from breaking the magician`s code biggrin.gif
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post Sep 17 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Divas @ Sep 17 2010, 10:05 PM)
It depends on whether you talk about Sorcery as the literal definition of "exercising supernatural powers with help from evil spirits" or if you are discussing more specifically what we consider to be acts of Sorcery today (such as hexes/juju etc.). From my Western background, what i understand Sorcery to be is the type of magic that 'magicians' (the type found in fantasy novels/movies) perform which includes things such as summoning fire/lightning from nothing, levitation of items, shape shifting etc. 
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that is the definition of sorcery that we meant. The former that you mentioned I think are witchcraft.


Added on September 17, 2010, 11:51 pmback to topic, I would highlight the scientific evidence. I think we are yet to develop enough base understanding regarding the paranormal world aka ghost/witch/other being realms. We do not have concrete fundamental understanding in order to start evaluating and argument on its properties

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post Sep 18 2010, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Sep 18 2010, 02:43 AM)
it depends on which part of the world you are in. Under British law a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty but under French law a person is guilty until proven innocent.

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what about malaysia? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Divas @ Sep 18 2010, 10:21 PM)
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me, in which case then i probably do believe it to be possible (or at least really like the idea), and that we simply haven't discovered a power source capable of allowing an individual to perform acts of 'sorcery'.


let us not dwell far to the realm of Merlin casting fire out of his staff or Gandalf whom shine as bright as the sun with his cloak. Let us talk about psychokinetic. The ability to move objects with mind, or levitation? perhaps. (which the Yoga master or Hindu yogi claim possible)

it is even recorded that that this meditation grandmasters has gain control over their subcontious mind even muscle reflects (that they can stop their heart beat)

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I was slightly confused as a lot of what was being discussed sounded like practices such as Voodoo and Witchdoctoring in which case i don't believe it to be 'magic' or even consorting with evil spirits. Although i do think they can have some powerful effects on people who believe them to be true.
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Sorcery is the field wherby people with abiblity that is capable of manipualting their surroundings whereby witchcraft is the manupulation/exploitation of other beings other than human for evil conduct.
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post Sep 23 2010, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Sep 21 2010, 12:10 PM)
I believe in magic only.. coz magic is simply a trick.. it just deceives your eyes.
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malay word nailed it...

"SILAP mata"
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post Sep 23 2010, 12:50 PM

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magic = silap mata

jampi/ilmu sihir = witchcract/vodoo

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post Sep 23 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Sep 23 2010, 03:42 PM)
The reason for this is ad populum.

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