magic like david copperfield, cut his body into two, flying, vanish, does it considered as sorcery?

that's an illusion
he 'll never be able to do that in a controlled environment

can you describe controlled environment. is it possible for anyone to do the same thing as him?

video camera at every angle...
adequate lighting
usage of clear material
absence of props
usage of real human

This is the sort of thing people will just joke about until he/she gets it right in the face. Just like the story of the Boy who cried wolf

I don't think the PhD school is the place for this excuse

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u think thats real?

do you think sorcery are any more real than magic show?

nope
sorcery is not real

If u belief, then it exist
If u dont, then it doesnt

if sorcery is true then yes...its 'more real' compared to mere illusions and misdirections. duh.

wow if this is the case then santa claus surely exists cuz I believe it exists

sorcery do exist. For proof, theres a tv pprogram I watch recently, its called 'Ilmu Alam Ghaib' where they show that women/men possesed by evil spirit/jinn after sent by 'bomoh'/witch using sorcery to make their life miserable. Not all sorcery use for evil things only, but also for healing, protections and many more.

I may not believe in sorcery and anything that's superstitious and hocus-pocus-ish, but that things CAN and WILL happen in accordance to the collective of the conscience of all that is humanity.

In short, it's like saying: "The world is now sad because they have been subconsciously believing that happiness is something far, far away, something they can never hope to reach to obtain it."

So MAYBE, just maybe, sorcery is just a physical manifestation of a specific human population emotions, conscience, spirituality, etc etc.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 01:05 PM

Isn't it possible that these people are metally ill, and not necessarily "possessed"?

It depends on your religious beliefs.
What does your religion tells you about sorcery,magic,illusions etc,etc.

In some religions, theirs is a belief that it exists, that evil exists.
So to ward of evil magic you have to use good magic.
Satan exists as some religions believe that it does,
God has allowed him to use his influence on the weak one that doe not have positive belief in God.

So the chance of one getting hit by satans magic is strong, because that person mentals state has allowed him to do so.

just cut to the chase and show everybody the proof(s)

I would challange them.

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This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Aug 16 2010, 12:23 PM

No, but I really wanted it to be true as child!

The result of reading too many fantasy novels.