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 Nokia N900 Thread V1, its a computer with phone capabilities

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post Apr 5 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 5 2010, 12:31 PM)
What you said is true but  if u ask me to list down iphone flaws i have a longer list.
stop comparing o.o

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Apr 5 2010, 12:06 PM)
hmm, thinking to change my n97 to this n900

but i reach from online,
i found

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• No Bluetooth PBAP or rSAP support, so it will not synchronize contacts with Car Kits
• No Turn by Turn on OVI Maps!! The N900 has a bespoke OVI Maps install that is basically rubbish. This is a killer feature for many people, and if you need it; buy another phone, as it doesn't look like Nokia are interested in updating it.
• No MMS Support, you can't send or receive Multimedia messages. (I can hear the Apple brand-droids laughing already!)
• OVI Suite isn't supported on the N900, yep, you heard that right!
• PC Suite isn't 'fully' supported, you can't use the SMS feature for example!
• The Screen isn't Multi Touch
• You can't copy/paste from/to Emails. This one I can't believe, for an 'Internet Tablet', this is a must have feature
• Cant mark/unmark multiple message to read/unread status
• Steep learning curve for non techies, you'll need to understand Linux and the maemo OS to get the most from it.
hmm......mms and copy and paste will be a big issues.

is it going to fix it on next firmware? btw, portrait mode also need to install myself or next firmware going to be included in?
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for ur 1st Q, if i not mistaken next firwmare gonna enable blutooth support. Even if not u still can use 3rd party apps, petrovish.
For 2nd, yes the OVI map use by N900 is ver 1. Required internet connection for GOS locate ur location. But yet, it still kinda helpful for me as long as some1 sit beside me n be my navigator XP..
3rd Q, no MMS at d moment (might update through firmware) but u can alwiz use 3rd party apps, FMMS.
and 5th Q, N900 doesnt come with PC suite CD in the package, but who know is supportable in future.
6th, yes not multitouch. Is tat reli main issue?
7th if u can copy paste from web, y not in email? N900 support copy n paste tongue.gif
8th when u click delete sms, u can mark and delete it

hope i answer ur Q n correct me if i m wrong smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Apr 5 2010, 12:06 PM)
hmm, thinking to change my n97 to this n900

but i reach from online,
i found

Bad:
• No Bluetooth PBAP or rSAP support, so it will not synchronize contacts with Car Kits
• No Turn by Turn on OVI Maps!! The N900 has a bespoke OVI Maps install that is basically rubbish. This is a killer feature for many people, and if you need it; buy another phone, as it doesn't look like Nokia are interested in updating it.
• No MMS Support, you can't send or receive Multimedia messages. (I can hear the Apple brand-droids laughing already!)
• OVI Suite isn't supported on the N900, yep, you heard that right!
• PC Suite isn't 'fully' supported, you can't use the SMS feature for example!
• The Screen isn't Multi Touch
• You can't copy/paste from/to Emails. This one I can't believe, for an 'Internet Tablet', this is a must have feature
• Cant mark/unmark multiple message to read/unread status
• Steep learning curve for non techies, you'll need to understand Linux and the maemo OS to get the most from it.
hmm......mms and copy and paste will be a big issues.

is it going to fix it on next firmware? btw, portrait mode also need to install myself or next firmware going to be included in?
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One thing people need to start to understand and differentiate.

If it is SOFTWARE limitation, don't worry, it can be fixed (either by Nokia or 3rd Party).
If it is HARDWARE limitation, then it is a real problem.

Most above is software limitation. When getting computer/laptop/smartphone, one should know that software limitation is small issues.

As for Multi-Touch, you're talking about Capacitive. Firstly, one also need to understand the difference betwen Capacitive and Resistive technology and also the advantages and disadvantages of both.
You want precision touch, ability to use your finger nails/stylus, you need Resistive touch. Resistive touch gives you precision and accuracy, you can touch small links in a webpage, you can play games which requires accuracy/precision touch (no need to special customize the game for your device). Example: Room Escape Flash Games.
With Resistive Touch technology and ability to use the stylus, you get to use Sketch/Drawing application, where you can draw using very FINE pencil and create stunning art/drawing.
Many people just want the latest or what is popular, they never bother to know what is it.

The phone is very usable even for normal users, but will be more utilize for more advance users. As for learning curves, think positive. As you use, you will learn more and gain more technical knowledge. So, it's a win-win situation. The more things to learn, is better; as you use, you'll gain more knowledge and become more advance.

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QUOTE(monked @ Apr 5 2010, 12:33 PM)
stop comparing o.o
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I try not to but people must be fair its like everyone buying the most perfect phone in the world they only list the flaw but not pros.
To be fair one self must weight the pros and cons. If you only focus on oneself weakness sure become bad.


Added on April 5, 2010, 12:41 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 5 2010, 12:37 PM)
One thing people need to start to understand and differentiate.

If it is SOFTWARE limitation, don't worry, it can be fixed (either by Nokia or 3rd Party).
If it is HARDWARE limitation, then it is a real problem.

Most above is software limitation. When getting computer/laptop/smartphone, one should know that software limitation is small issues.

As for Multi-Touch, you're talking about Capacitive. Firstly, one also need to understand the difference betwen Capacitive and Resistive technology and also the advantages and disadvantages of both.
You want precision touch, ability to use your finger nails/stylus, you need Resistive touch. Resistive touch gives you precision and accuracy, you can touch small links in a webpage, you can play games which requires accuracy/precision touch (no need to special customize the game for your device). Example: Room Escape Flash Games.
With Resistive Touch technology and ability to use the stylus, you get to use Sketch/Drawing application, where you can draw using very FINE pencil and create stunning art/drawing.
Many people just want the latest or what is popular, they never bother to know what is it.

The phone is very usable even for normal users, but will be more utilize for more advance users. As for learning curves, think positive. As you use, you will learn more and gain more technical knowledge. So, it's a win-win situation. The more things to learn, is better; as you use, you'll gain more knowledge and become more advance.
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very true i forgotten to explain about capacitive touch you must use your finger.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Apr 5 2010, 12:41 PM
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post Apr 5 2010, 01:25 PM

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New owner reporting in....i'm enjoying the phone!! full web support, can do online banking without limitation... being waiting for a nokia phone which can also support e-payment ticketing in GSC. no regret for spending 'much' money on it.
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thanks for all the explaination. currently using S60V5, been waiting for more improvement. but....

software limitation i understand, thats why i looking some answer from u all about the 3rd party. as im thinking to use android OR n900.

since many things had been fixed with 3rd party.. i might consider more on it. coz i need a normal phone features, but with a fully compatible browser which juz like my laptop
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i just got my n900 yesterday...
the initial apps repo is way to little apps..
after playing with it for a while.. and adding additional repo.. it looks great now...

now i can use linux anywhere.. nice...
time to port programs from sourceforge.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Apr 5 2010, 01:56 PM)
thanks for all  the explaination. currently using S60V5, been waiting for more improvement. but....

software limitation i understand, thats why i looking some answer from u all about the 3rd party. as im thinking to use android OR n900.

since many things had been fixed with 3rd party.. i might consider more on it. coz i need a normal phone features, but with a fully compatible browser which juz like my laptop
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They are not fixed its just not announce yet.
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I just bought this phone yesterday just add me for member n900 too ..
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Nokia N900 Might Do Android OS / Maemo Dual Boot, GREAT? drool.gif

http://www.slashphone.com/nokia-n900-might...ual-boot-017585


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QUOTE(evanttc @ Apr 5 2010, 01:56 PM)
thanks for all  the explaination. currently using S60V5, been waiting for more improvement. but....

software limitation i understand, thats why i looking some answer from u all about the 3rd party. as im thinking to use android OR n900.

since many things had been fixed with 3rd party.. i might consider more on it. coz i need a normal phone features, but with a fully compatible browser which juz like my laptop
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well, N900 got normal phone feature..ok at least basic..except dun have MMS (can use fmms), assign ringing tone for difference contact (if this is ur concern as well), cant send file via bluetooth (but can use petrovich apps). for web browser, N900 definitely the best biggrin.gif..i can even view my own blog which using flash header biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 5 2010, 12:31 PM)
What you said is true but  if u ask me to list down iphone flaws i have a longer list.

The next firmware wont solve 100% of the problem but a handful excluding those not listed

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hmm.. mind if u list out some common cons of iphone? this not comparing, i just wan to know for extra knowledge =)


Added on April 5, 2010, 3:10 pm1. Download and install Nokia PC Suite: http://www.nokia.co.in/get-support-and-sof...nokia-pc-suites
2. Download and install Nokia Maps Loader: http://www.nokiausa.com/get-support-and-so...ad#/nokia-n900/
3. Open the Maps app on your N900 after it loads completely close it
4. Connect your N900 in Mass Storage Mode via the USB cable
5. Run Map Loader App on your PC and load the maps for your country.

this is the complete and correct guide to install ovi maps for malaysia right? =)

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QUOTE(jloi @ Apr 5 2010, 02:52 PM)
well, N900 got normal phone feature..ok at least basic..except dun have MMS (can use fmms), assign ringing tone for difference contact (if this is ur concern as well), cant send file via bluetooth (but can use petrovich apps). for web browser, N900 definitely the best biggrin.gif..i can even view my own blog which using flash header biggrin.gif
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this is going to make me think and think for the whole day. tempting!......after i get to know more about this phone. previously was not able to buy one as low cash.

Collecting money and selling of my n97!


Added on April 5, 2010, 3:13 pm
QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 5 2010, 03:06 PM)
hmm.. mind if u list out some common cons of iphone? this not comparing, i just wan to know for extra knowledge =)


Added on April 5, 2010, 3:10 pm1. Download and install Nokia PC Suite: http://www.nokia.co.in/get-support-and-sof...nokia-pc-suites
2. Download and install Nokia Maps Loader: http://www.nokiausa.com/get-support-and-so...ad#/nokia-n900/
3. Open the Maps app on your N900 after it loads completely close it
4. Connect your N900 in Mass Storage Mode via the USB cable
5. Run Map Loader App on your PC and load the maps for your country.

this is the complete and correct guide to install ovi maps for malaysia right? =)
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thanks for the link. i also doing that to my previous 5800 and current n97

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QUOTE(x132755 @ Apr 5 2010, 02:49 PM)
Nokia N900 Might Do Android OS / Maemo Dual Boot, GREAT? drool.gif

http://www.slashphone.com/nokia-n900-might...ual-boot-017585


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so cool future nokia have 3 OS to boot to

Maemo , Android and Meego
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 5 2010, 03:06 PM)
hmm.. mind if u list out some common cons of iphone? this not comparing, i just wan to know for extra knowledge =)


Added on April 5, 2010, 3:10 pm1. Download and install Nokia PC Suite: http://www.nokia.co.in/get-support-and-sof...nokia-pc-suites
2. Download and install Nokia Maps Loader: http://www.nokiausa.com/get-support-and-so...ad#/nokia-n900/
3. Open the Maps app on your N900 after it loads completely close it
4. Connect your N900 in Mass Storage Mode via the USB cable
5. Run Map Loader App on your PC and load the maps for your country.

this is the complete and correct guide to install ovi maps for malaysia right? =)
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keat... tell me ur result after u doing this steps...
cause although i had followed all these steps...
my gps still need connection to run + wen i search a place...
it could not be found !! rclxub.gif
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Another thing beautiful of N900 is MSN, GOOGLE TALK, QQ, YAHOO YM etc etc all can be integrated into the conversation type without 3rd party software only requires plugin
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QUOTE(nicholas_oh @ Apr 5 2010, 03:23 PM)
keat... tell me ur result after u doing this steps...
cause although i had followed all these steps...
my gps still need connection to run + wen i search a place...
it could not be found !!  rclxub.gif
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are u using nokia n900? i just realised it was preinstalled LOL still learning to use. at menu u just press maps. does it load? mine works @@
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of cox i am n900 user also...

yes it's pre-installed...
but sum ppls can use it without connection n works as normal gps lo...

as i said wen i search a place in m'sia... it couldnt find it lo...

i had followed steps as u mention just nw
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Finally I got my N900.
I'm officially in!

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