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post Mar 28 2010, 12:07 PM

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Any idea how to replace this function >> *#92702689#
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post Mar 29 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 28 2010, 06:31 AM)
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

(1) Does garmin works on Nokia N900?

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OMAI shocking.gif And i thought garmin was supported. It will be updated ? will it ? wink.gif


Added on March 29, 2010, 9:15 pm
QUOTE(Ninja @ Mar 29 2010, 04:46 PM)
1. Download and install Nokia PC Suite: http://www.nokia.co.in/get-support-and-sof...nokia-pc-suites
2. Download and install Nokia Maps Loader: http://www.nokiausa.com/get-support-and-so...ad#/nokia-n900/
3. Open the Maps app on your N900 after it loads completely close it
4. Connect your N900 in Mass Storage Mode via the USB cable
5. Run Map Loader App on your PC and load the maps for your country.
You can get fMMS in Extras-devel application catalogue.

Refer the following guide to download apps from Extras-devel catalogue:

http://thenokiablog.com/2009/10/27/maemo-e...0-applications/
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After doing those steps, i will be able to use gps without internet connection right?

According to my friends, n900 has agps tat uses satellite right? hmm.gif

Im not sure whether the info is true... please clarify it for me notworthy.gif

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post Mar 30 2010, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(jawwebber @ Mar 30 2010, 11:30 AM)
Yeah bro I can help you to get one as long as you can head over to Shah Alam =]
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would it be lower by now?


Added on March 30, 2010, 3:05 pm
QUOTE(fakerdemit @ Mar 30 2010, 12:14 AM)
GPS uses the Global Positioning Satellites to fix your devices location.

A-GPS uses your network operators transmission towers to Assist the satellite signals to fix your devices location.A-GPS is coarse grained typically 100s of meters vs GPS sub Meter.

n900 use both. But if you use GPS, and you have the map information (get from OVI MAPS), you don't need to use the a-GPS and don't need to burn you data plan.

the voice command for navigation is still not support for Malaysia maps. and navigation uses your data plan.
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in conclusion. after finish downloading ovi maps. i can access GPS without any internet connection la.

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1 more thing, i dont get this "A-GPS is coarse grained typically 100s of meters vs GPS sub Meter." rclxub.gif

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post Mar 31 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 30 2010, 07:08 PM)
What the above forumer said is true. The difference is a-gps u need to pay money and integrated gps only is free
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ooo... so a-gps gona charge us base on the internet usage? icon_question.gif


Added on March 31, 2010, 7:34 pm
QUOTE(desmand @ Mar 31 2010, 12:29 AM)
Highly recommend to those who wish their phone can do multitask concurrently...
While I was on the phone(with speaker on) chatting with my fren, I replying msg on the other side using Pidgin internet messenger and after replying i continue playing angry bird....I still talking with my fren on the phone...
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u chat using loudspeaker? i was playing with my friend's n900 and the speaker is quite soft...

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 31 2010, 08:06 PM)
N900 speaker known to be bit "soft"
Check gsmarena review for the info
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LOL. i searched n900 and few hundreds of similar results pop out @@ mind giving me a specific link? icon_question.gif


Added on March 31, 2010, 9:02 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 31 2010, 09:01 PM)
The speaker is soft, even when plugin to headset, it's softer than N97. But the speaker sound quality is great, seems getting better.

Not sure if newer firmware can increase the volume, my previous N81 firmware update does just that and I only need to on half of the volume.
The microphone was good tough, crisp and clear compared to my N81.

Anyway, for me, most important is the sound quality is good, the soft part I still can accept.
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oooo... ya nod.gif the quality is good drool.gif jus bit soft. works fine for me too. just wanna check out with u guys was it common smile.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 31 2010, 08:56 PM)
yes because it just retrieve gps location from server so lets say if u use unlimited plan agps is totally free
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Added on March 31, 2010, 9:04 pm
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 31 2010, 09:03 PM)
thx alot notworthy.gif

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post Mar 31 2010, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 31 2010, 09:35 PM)
if speaker

1st 5800xm
2nd n900
3rd n97

if camera

1st n900
2nd n97
3rd 5800

if earpiece

1st n900
2nd n97
3rd 5800xm

if loudspeaker

1st 5800xm
2nd n97
3rd n900

if internet

1st n900
2nd n97 mini
3rd n97

if phone speed

1st n900
2nd n97mini
3rd n97
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obviously, the winner is............................................................. N900 ! icon_rolleyes.gif LOL !
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Guys, is n900 an easy-to-spoil aka fragile phone?

If u take it extra care like ur own baby, it wont crash or hardware problems wont occur right?
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post Apr 1 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 1 2010, 03:57 PM)
Mine havent crash yet.

Fragile depends what you mean like drop from very high? The phone weight is 181g so any extreme drop will cause some minor damage. But the build of the phone is very solid so medium drop , or knock will be alright
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how bout hardware's problem? there shldnt be any problem right?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 1 2010, 05:06 PM)
N900 build is very solid especially when u hold it except the phone kinda heavy so extreme fall could cost minor damage so suggest to buy some casing or some kind of protection for the body.

FM transmitter is better than N97 and N79
Screen under sunlight visible compare to N97 and 5800XM cant see
Screen Resolution higher
Slide more solid feeling compare to N97 clumpsy feel
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LOL clumpsy haha biggrin.gif

so even if i get AP there wouldnt be much problem if i take it with good care right?
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post Apr 1 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 1 2010, 05:09 PM)
You can so but the phone is so new in the market so we cant really be certain about tat. Example screen crack , Device malfunction or motherboard issue will cost u a bomb for AP due to lack of spare parts
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ya... tats y i wanna double check whether the phone is stable through u users.... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Apr 1 2010, 07:44 PM)
Was waiting so long for this phone, but quite disappointed.

I went to the Nokia store today and played around with the N900. The QWERTY keypad is nice, and the phone feels solid. But I really think the GUI is annoying.
1) Menu items just standard Nokia ones and can't rearrange
2) It's using a resistive screen so can't drag it with your finger smoothly, had to use my fingernail.
3) Applications all quite dull.
4) Stuck in landscape mode

The good thing is that there's a lot of non-GUI functionality, but it's quite expensive. I think for that price an Android phone would be a better buy - more applications in Android Market and customization potential. Played with some android HTC phones recently, think they're really great.
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i have a similar feeling when i use tat phone at first. cause im using my own money to buy an 2k phone...

just a question, are there any special feature or apps available in n900? bsides multitask and surfing net experience.
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Apr 1 2010, 09:17 PM)
haha... well let me share with you some stuff if you are not geeky enough...

1) the rearrange thing is coming soon in the next updated....
2) well to be precise of what you drag of course use finger tip... dun use ur nail you might scratch the screen!!!! but so far me using finger also can drag smoothly... must be the way you do it... to me... it is comparable to that iphone and for a resistive screen is very good!!!  thumbup.gif
3) iphone have many ppl doing apps and although it states got loads of apps, i hear ppl say there are too many useless apps than good ones... so I hear hear only la... i think the apps available for maemo is quite exhaustive if you instal repositories in your n900.... I am very happy with the available apps which is mostly usefull...
4) in the next update it has potrait mode as well... beside u should know that it is that way when you purchase the phone... so why you still go ahead?? hehe j/k  sweat.gif
5) its a mini computer with a phone function so for phone usage is bare minimum... but more coming at the next update....
6) what device can dual boot?? n900 can... boot android.. search youtube...
7) what device can handle multi task propertly??? n900....
8) what device can do remote desktop??? n900...
9) the ovi map is gonna have update too in the next update.. hehe... now is the bare basics...
10) well it is an open platform means many more will be coming...
11) if you got problem with the phone, you have maemo.org to go to to share the bug and there will be response from relevant ppl... it has not failed me so far...
12) i think i can go further but i will stop here for now....

Note: do search around for nokian900application... you may find repository to download and instal...

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drool.gif wat does dual boot mean? go on go on LOL icon_rolleyes.gif
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eh its possible, can anyone pm me or tell me here, the factory price aka cost price of n900?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2010, 09:55 AM)
True, it WAS once very long ago, I have to admit, it make a BIG scene to the smartphone market, makes other smartphones look like rubbish. It's like a phone from far future.

But it's already outdated for so long, some people like just get into the trend and want an iPhone because everyone wants one. Not saying it's not good, it's still a good phone for many users, it's easy to use and have nice touch screen, and most importantly, tons of apps/games.

Actually, many phones has already surpassed or better than iPhone, but because not much people know about other phones or the technical part, so, people still think the iPhone is great. One thing iPhone has, popularity.

N900 on the other hand, is a very powerful device, BUT it may not be meaningful to everyone. WHY? Because some people may not need it or use it, and what they want is just a more "simple" phone that can call smoothly, long lasting battery, or have great camera, etc.
For some people who prioritize on camera, suddenly the N900 is consider not powerful to them, but their meaning of powerful is different.
It really depends on what the buyer is looking for and what he/she wants/prioritize.
But in terms of technical, the N900 is one of the most powerful device available in the market, moreover it's very "open" with little or no restrictions. You get root access or administrator rights without the need to hack/jb, that's the right way, just like when you buy a PC, you get administrator access to your Windows XP/Vista/7.

For those who are looking for a smarphones, find out what is important for yourself, what you really want, and decide carefully, and finally, don't regret after you bought it and enjoy your phone.
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Hey, if u dont mind, mind sharing with me ur definition of powerful n900? besides "But in terms of technical, the N900 is one of the most powerful device available in the market, moreover it's very "open" with little or no restrictions. You get root access or administrator rights without the need to hack/jb, that's the right way, just like when you buy a PC, you get administrator access to your Windows XP/Vista/7. " If it will be a long story, u can always pm me =) brows.gif

I must fully understand the phone and c whether it suits me =) icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Apr 2 2010, 05:27 PM)
suit you???? what do you want a phone to do??
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hmm.. means i can accept its flaw. nod.gif

it actually compromise all my needs: 3.5g, SMOOTH !, GPS, full browsing experience. rclxms.gif


Added on April 2, 2010, 6:04 pm
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 2 2010, 02:33 PM)
I suggest you buy iphone mate. If ppl needs to prove to you then u wont really fully 100% utilize or appreciate it. If u are really serious about it then put some effort google for it
Even i write a list 500 pages long what the phone can do you also wont understand so ill summarize it for u

If u like to go online on your mobile phone
If u like to check email on your mobile phone ( n900 supports HTML)
If u like to view flash website/games or etc
If u like qwerty phone its for you
If u like to customize your phone like windows
If u like watch video without converting
If u like to play games on your phone
If u like to be flexible without tons of limitation and required 3rd party to unlock
If u like to able to have dual boot aka like Maemo and android on the same phone
If u like to have many connectivity like bluetooth,infra,wifi etc etc
If u like to installing alot application/games
If u like need alot storage capacity
If u like to multitask like on computer
If u like to have a affordable phone

and many many many more
If you like to do the above then N900 is for you if only 1 or 2 from the list above then iphone is for you. I even put a review on it on frontpage please read it

Simple and easy to understand? After you bought your phone we will show you the world of Maemo.
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its 13/14. except the last one blush.gif


Added on April 2, 2010, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2010, 02:27 PM)
If you're in the IT industry or understand technical details, you will know how powerful the N900's Maemo OS is. It's hard to explain to you, but previous I've show you a video review by Dining table, the ending part, the guys shows the power of the N900. In the middle part, he also mentioned those that might no be suitable to get this device.



With Maemo OS, you get access to X-Terminal out of the box, which is a console like COMMAND PROMPT for Windows. From there, you can do a lot of things, if you're a technical person or linux pro that is.
Then if you're just a normal user who wants prefer a simple phone, then this phone is not for you. iPhone is the phone that covers everything, and only let you see what they want you to see, OR only allow you to do, what they allow you do to. But, it's enough for most people, plus it's safer for most people.

Besides, since the N900 is very "open", you can see just soooo many things can be done on the N900, people can customize the OS easily, add new things to the Desktop which allows you to modify somethings, customize, etc. Even the Messaging Conversations can be customize easily.

Even if you're not a technical person, the N900 still have a very unique, one of a kind OS, which have the "panorama" Desktop concept, and allow you to cuztomize the Desktop easily, creatively. If you check out other smartphones, their using HomeScreen which have a fixed template or location, there's customization but it is limited and have fixed positioning. The Maemo OS Desktop concept is just like our PC Windows Desktop, you can place icons anywhere you like, you can place it overlap one another, and the GUI looks nice to MOST people.
There is also nice and smooth transition, and the GUI is more multimedia based, more stunning and cool than many other smartphone OS. (Example: Check out the Media Player Home Screen, those icons have nice glowing shadow, which looks cool and nice. Check out the progress bars which look cool and nice).

Anyway, the look and feel of the OS differes for everyone. Some people might prefer other smartphone OS look and feel. Personally, I find Maemo is unique and very interesting, it is what I want.
Plus, check out the Maemo N900 official website, it looks so cool already, totally unlike other phone (at least for me):
http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

If it's not for you, don't force yourself. Look for the phone that catches your attention, and every phone has got it's weakness, see if you can accept it's flaws or weakness. Like N900, it's bulky and heavy compared to others, but I don't mind at all, plus it's a smartphone with loaded features like FM Transmitter, Infra, Keyboard, 32GB storage, etc. And also, the battery issue, being a powerful device, it bound to consume more power than normal phone (it's same like you get a sports car and you can't expect a great fuel consumption comparing with a normal car).
Yes, activate the "MOUSE".
swipe your finger/stylus from the LEFT of the NON-DISPLAY area to the Display Area.
You should get your MOUSE and also a button which you can use to active the mouse permanently. With the mouse, you can highlight text, and do other stuffs, which other smartphones can't.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Use CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste

For an example, you can watch the below video (last part).
NOTE: The below video shows the Flash demo on N900. With Flash, there're tons of apps and games accessible for N900, and with RESISTIVE touch screen and supporting the use of stylus, you can play those Desktop version flash game which requires accurate touch EASILY.

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thanks alot. u r always here to give me a full explanation. thanks again.

if i bought the phone, anyting ill just come n post my enquiries here rclxm9.gif


Added on April 2, 2010, 6:07 pmthx to aspire2oo6 too =)

Btw, just wanna double check. it has window live messenger too right?

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2010, 06:16 PM)
For this phone, you can forget about having a "separate" application to IM (Instant Messenger).

Basically, you can INTEGRATE pretty much of the IM to your contacts.
What do I mean? Basically, your contacts can LINK with Skype, OVI, Facebook Chat (through jabber, or other 3rd party plugins), msn/yahoo/icq/etc through 3rd party plugins.
So, WHEN you connect to the Internet, these account will automatically try to login, unless you disable them. During this moment, your phone may lag because all these are trying to login.

How to chat? The chat is through your Conversations. Basically your SMS and IM conversations are here.
The default outlook is nothing spectacular, but you can customize it (unlike other smartphone).

But, if you really want a dedicated MSN application, search for aMSN. This MSN app anytime beat most (if not all) other MSN app on other smartphone FLAT FLAT. aMSN is very powerful and rich app close to our Windows based MSN, but it's not yet a complete version. You can google this for the screenshot and see how it looks compared to other smartphone version which is very very basic and simple.
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thanks a lot again. GUYS ! THE MORE I TALK, THE MORE IM CONVINCED N900 IS ALMOST FLAWLESS AND UNBEATABLE.
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nonetheless, i tink the onli 2 tiny little problem which is:
1.battery(i know its unavoidable cause its powerfulness tongue.gif ) is the best solution dc-11?
2.will there be something like n97 into n97mini? iphone3g into 3gs? its not tat im trying to cari pasal, its just tat im gonna buy this phone and it will be another more or less 10 years b4 i change another phone cause im really saving alot of money to buy a stable phone that can last me a long time =) i dont mind if the phone will not be the best but are there any leak information bout a slighty upgraded version of n900 coming out ? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(jloi @ Apr 2 2010, 09:04 PM)
Heard there's alot ppl got black & white screen only after ported to Meego
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 2 2010, 09:55 PM)
I think iphone is a better choice for you friend. U easily get influence. If like an item got 100 good things but only because of 1 bad thing u will change your mind.
Dun worry when u get iphone u will worry about other things its prepared for you
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2010, 10:58 PM)
Yup, currently MeeGo is only console base (e.g. X-Terminal).
It's not for end user, it's for the pros, or those who want a taste of MeeGo, but should know all the steps to flash the device even if the device is bricked (bricked means your phone is dead, you need to recover/reformat and reflash, something like your PC windows crash and cannot start).

For us, just wait for PR1.2
If you want to use for 10 years, then you can forget about iPhone.
Put on average, the iPhone battery might last you around 1~1.5 years depending on usage, longer if you're lucky. Changing the battery isn't like any other Nokia/Sony Ericson/etc phone, you can't just buy a cheap OEM battery and use... The battery price, I'm not sure, but definitely not less than RM150? Then you have to think about the labour to dismantle your iPhone to replace your battery... As usual, once a device has been dismantle before, problems might start cropping up if the work is not done well.
Plus, the LCD itself, if damaged, cost over RM1000 (as read from a blog).

Basically for Battery, if you're getting a smartphone, you shouldn't expect the battery to last as long as the non-smart phone, unless it comes with high capacity original battery. The N900 if you really want to save the battery, it can last you up to 3 days most probably, means charging interval of 3 days once.
But then, you get this phone is TO ENJOY, why do you worry and try so hard to save the battery and ended up not able to enjoy it? You can charge it everyday, doesn't matter. A typical battery have around 300-500 charge cycles (1 charge cycle = 100% usage, not how many time you charge). Let's say your battery give away after say 1.5 years, with Nokia/Sony Ericson/etc, you can get OEM battery for less than RM50 and it performs up to par with original battery (some claims better). So, why worry about battery? Unless you're using iPhone, then you have to really worry.

As for build quality:
Is your current phone a Nokia? If yes, then you roughly know the quality of Nokia phones. This is my first AP Nokia phone, but this N900 AP Set is a US Set, made in Korea. Previous forwarded mails have mentioned to avoid certain countries model, not sure how true, but so far the official set I have are all of good quality, and hopefully it will continue...  notworthy.gif  (Pray Pray)

And if you search YouTube for N900 Stress Test, you can find out the N900 has very good build quality, they even did a few drop test, sit on the phone test, water test (horrible). The LCD, N97 have more durable LCD, but probably that's why it's less responsive? Not sure. Nonetheless, it's very heart-breaking to see the fellar torture the N900, why not just give it to me  tongue.gif
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btw, its all AP et from korea? how i check the origin of the phone?

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