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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V4, Latest:NO cap 4 unifi packages 4 now ^_^

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post Mar 28 2010, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(r47z @ Mar 28 2010, 06:58 AM)
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the current technology (Streamyx) DLS2+ can support up to 24mbps?
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While the technology can support speeds up to 24mbps and above, it still has to put up with real world physical limitations.

If you live <100 meters from the TM exchange then I'm sure you probably could get that speed but not others who live further away and may have damaged and old copper wiring along the way.

QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Mar 28 2010, 07:17 AM)
I'd have to disagree, usually the early adopters who gets the short end of the stick. Simple example streamyx 4Mbps. Sure2 at first its blazing fast but now even those early adopters are getting the same crap as new ones.

PS: Your neither lying or telling the truth, its just your opinion which everyone has one smile.gif
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I would have to agree with vandread86 from my own experience with TM. Early adopters will reap all the benefits like free installation and other freebies.. but when TM finalizes their cap, because the T&C states they can change it any time.. these people will be subject to the same T&C that you would get even after they increase the cap and maybe reduce the pricing. Uncapped bandwidth for 3-8 months because they're still testing, free 3 months access till July 1st, 5-20mbps link and potential customers holding TM ransom for better deals also meaning less users on the network. You even get your whole place wired before everyone starts rushing to sign up for it so you don't have to wait 2 weeks for an install appointment. It's a win win situation for them.

I took 4mbps Streamyx as soon as it came out, whenever I call their support I get transferred to a special VIP support line and I'm even placed on a special IP range for 4mbps users which has amazingly fast download speeds and better routing. Even when international routing is screwed up.. as long as I use the right tools (download accelerators and such), I get guaranteed 4mbps speed unless the port or wiring is damaged.
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post Mar 29 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Raven-X @ Mar 29 2010, 12:20 PM)
well, screw those cheapskates ppl here who been complaining about the cap (which has been lifted) and the price (which most likely they can't afford)!
I'm not surprised if most of them are not listed in the Q1 of the implementation.

i just subscribed to 20mb and will be able to use it by next week. wohoo!
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I wouldn't say screw them.. it's because of these people that they lifted the cap in the first place.
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post Mar 29 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Arlington @ Mar 29 2010, 01:24 PM)
Can definitely use SD TV, the box has component / composite connections as well as HDMI.

Only 2 channels are HD, but I could only find 1 (luxe) the other day when I was checking it out.

An HDTV would be a waste, the quality of the video codec is really really bad.  Everything looks out of focus and interlace flickering gave me a headache very fast.

The IPTV quality is really disappointing.
If you compared a normal download of an SD episode of CSI in Xvid mp4 codec and compared it to the VOD IPTV HD quality, you would definitely conclude that the download has better quality.

An HD download absolutely destroys IPTV HD in terms of quality.
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How does the IPTV box hook up to the network anyway? To the dlink router via cat5 cable?
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post Mar 30 2010, 12:44 PM

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Midway through my installation now. No drilling was needed, they just pulled the fiber cable in and set it up. Install has been delayed for 1 hour+ cause IPTV is f**ked up for some reason (ignoring user/pass) but so far speeds have been good. 2.4MB/s download and upload locally with normal torrents maxing out at 2.2-2.4MB/s biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Mar 30 2010, 12:56 PM)

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If you just want wireless range, you can use your own router as a WiFi access point by connecting it to their d-link router. However the dialup session will still be managed by their router.

Hosting games should be fast. I pinged some fragnetics SG servers, its 12-14ms while I'm torrenting at 2MB/s. Local server ping is only 3-4ms.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 30 2010, 12:59 PM)
could you post some results for international sites?
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I just picked a random server from the US. I'll post more later if I have the time.

Speedtest.net is not reliable at the moment, their msian server is maxing out at 16mbps down for me and 2mbps up.. but when I tested on my own tmnet and jaring server, its 20mbps both ways.
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Mar 30 2010, 01:14 PM)
Ping is good, almost as same as when I ping www.tm.net.my using 4MB.

Btw I already subscribed VIP5 yesterday at TMpoint DU, but they only told me that the installation will be done within one week time, so date given. Did they tell you the exact date?
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They gave me exact date and time for an appointment.
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QUOTE(saiaha @ Mar 30 2010, 04:42 PM)
Rizvan you from Shah Alam as well?
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I'm from DJ near KDU Blitzone
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Mar 30 2010, 05:25 PM)
the router has already setup with VLAN, so that it has its own dedicated speed for IPTV.

btw mine is installing since this morning 9:30pm, until now still trying to get the IPTV setup...
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Same prob as mine? I had this 'Invalid STB' error even though the IPTV username and pass was correct. They kept calling HQ but same error all the time until I told them to take a break and SMS me when its fixed. 4 hours after the problem started the IPTV got fixed.
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Mar 30 2010, 05:35 PM)
btw guys, any of u have the d-link dir615 password?
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Username : admin

No password by default
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You guys should know that regardless of what speedtest.net says, it's not the *actual* international browsing speed. Even from my US servers, when I run NX desktop (vnc software) and run speedtest.. the values range from 1-10mbps even though my server normally operates at 10-100mbps. Sometimes the speedtest.net servers are just overloaded. Even my local speedtest with the KL server is screwed up.

In terms of 'real world' testing, on youtube.. so far I've been able to stream almost every 720/1080p video flawlessly. The video buffers and loads up 2-4x the speed of which it plays. With standard definition youtube vids, it takes just a few seconds to fully download the clips. Every time I load a new video, my bandwidth monitor indicates it's downloading between 1.2-2.3MB/s.

On standard rapidshare downloads and direct downloads, with 10-15 threads I easily max out the line at 2.0-2.3MB/s. Same with torrents..

Best part about this is I can download and play FPS games like bad company 2 at the same time because the download does not saturate the upload speed (which is also capped at 20mbps) so there's no effect on gaming latency smile.gif

QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Mar 30 2010, 07:08 PM)
as expected streamyx call center is also same like unifi, hard to get thru & they dont understand the need for user to configure the router. port forwarding is a very important settings for users that know what they are doing.

keep insisted that the wep key is the password for configuration page.
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There is a sticker underneath the orange Dlink router with the heading 'PIN'. That was set as my default wifi key, maybe your tech set it as your admin pass. Try username 'admin' with the PIN number as the password?

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QUOTE(Suk @ Mar 31 2010, 03:10 AM)
Let's start LYN download hub...
since we got 10mb upload biggrin.gif

this also help to reduce international bandwidth and stable speed.

Let's say, I got RS and downloaded ABC.
I started a thread with all my file list..
FTP server is installed  in my PC and I share all my file accordingly...
(LYN doesn't allow any copyright material in this forum)
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Yeah but DC++ isn't as good as torrents cause it doesn't allow for multi peer downloading if I'm not mistaken? Need something that can support multiple sources, is a closed network and runs on multiple OSs.

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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Mar 31 2010, 02:04 PM)
Hi guys,
i just call UniFi customer care and asked a few question, so here is the result( this is what the lady told me)

Speed cap count both upload and download for local and international bandwidth.

Once bandwidth limit is reached, speed will be capped at 80% to 85% (wasn't it 10% ? )

Speed will only be capped for international link local link will not be capped.

These info somehow doesn't convince me, i think the lady didn't know much.
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So local and international bandwidth is counted, yet a cap will only affect international link? :S She sounds a bit off. Regardless, we should get some local p2p stuff up tongue.gif More people seem to be signing up for unifi now anyway
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Mar 31 2010, 02:25 PM)
DC Hub is not a really good idea. I would suggest using torrent to host. It will be much faster and convenient. Then we need a tracker, and a search tool to help browsing the torrents.
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Torrents are harder because some people don't know how to make torrents, port forward and seed them appropriately. DC++ automatically hashes files and shares them.

I agree that DC++ is slow because its single connection downloads but there are other clients such as ApexDC++ ( http://www.apexdc.net/ ) which support multi-source downloading like modern P2P protocols.
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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Mar 31 2010, 03:06 PM)
as far as i am concern, i encounter a Malaysia torrent tracker last time, hmm forgot the name. But i am sure it was malaysia. So we should use torrent as Demonic Wrath say. Well we can prepare guide on how to do it, and like people used to say "if there is a will, there is a way"
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Yea that was their solution to counter TMnets international BT block. If I recall it was just a forum with some torrent modifications (seeder/leech/grab count) and tons of .torrent files posted on it. After a while TM blocked BT connections within the country too so it didn't really work out anymore. This is not the case with Unifi (at the moment) as nothing is being throttled.

Even if there was a guide up, every single file would have to be .torrent'd and seeded 24/7. Lowers the amount of content the P2P network would have whereas in DC++ any file that you search for would be available for download if its listed.

QUOTE(ProComplex @ Mar 31 2010, 03:26 PM)
Depending on who you speak to at Unifi customer care, you get different answers. Some say no cap, some say cap will come back sooner or later. Best is to wait for official announcement as the answers are not consistent at this stage.

Today my Biz5 installed in Bangsar. No cap for Biz packages. I asked the installer about VIP packages. He said currently no cap for VIP packages but cap is inevitable eventually. Anyway - that's just his personal opinion.

Does anyone know how to do port forwarding on the unify d-link router? Still have my 4MB streamyx line. Will go back tonight and do side by side torrent download comparison.
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QUOTE(vyzc @ Mar 31 2010, 06:35 PM)
Getting only 1 Mbps on a 20Mbps line to the US and you're satisfied? That's only 5% of your subscribed speed. LOL.
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ONLY FIVE PERCENT OF MAH SUBSCRIBED SPEED LUUUL. Speedtest.net is inaccurate as heck.

Edit : Sorry I'm a little burnt out and bored at the moment, I literally have nothing left to download anymore. Unifi has spoilt me sad.gif

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Mar 31 2010, 06:47 PM)
You should try BDISO  brows.gif
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Got half a TB of that, not much HDD space left lar cry.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 31 2010, 07:45 PM)
they are getting about 1/2 the speeds at most, haven't seen full speeds from international yet.

I have a US server I can put up files for people to do some download speed testing.
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I'm getting 20mbps on all torrents and HTTP links. 200-500KB/s from peers in Japan, US peers are 100-200KB/s.
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QUOTE(rattan @ Mar 31 2010, 07:59 PM)
No point yet, let the number of unifi users build up first, im sure by end of April there will a few hundred subscribers here on LYN. Then we can do something crazy  rclxm9.gif

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At the moment, no traffic caps, no bandwidth issues.. no real need for a local p2p system. The only people it would benefit are Streamyx users but then again they'll all be leeching since their upload is 50KB/s maximum. Installs just started on 29th for retail so maybe if we wait a month or two, there will be a Unifi users thread then we can organize a new system. It'll probably help reduce the impact of p2p on our international links and keep the surfing speed up.
QUOTE(yipwh @ Mar 31 2010, 09:27 PM)
Guys u need to understand P2P concept...1MB from US is quite ok actually. Imagine 100 ppl in Malaysia with 1MB downloading the same anime like Naruto from US. U will be leeching each other at that time time. Unleast u download direct http from US site..then cannot do anything lar. But still, the price byte to byte, fiber optic is the future. Imagine download a movie 1.5gb in just 1hr. Don't think streamyx can do that. And i believe now is just hot only...there will be a time...downloading also boring dah. Nothing to download..hahah
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1.5GB in 1 hour? 4mbps Streamyx can do that. Unifi is like 1.5gb in 10 - 14 minutes

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